When someone mentions powerlifting

10/10 genetics and just go outside and be active/play sports to stay lean

Norman baits is in town

I know it might be hard for you to understand, but people with good genetics can easily look like this.

Just kill yourself my man, clearly your genetics are so fucking dogshit you dogmatically believe they are on steroids.

OPs pic is the male equivalent of a bunch of fat girls standing together and have 1 look fuckable etc

Dude, they aren't.
Steroid use amongst guys like that is extremely casual.

kek

he's talking about which guy looks better. go back to /v/ you fat, dorito eating neckbeard

this makes my dick hard

>people with good genetics can easily look like this.
this is true but at least two of these are former college level football players so they're probably not natty even if this is fully possible natty

fuck, kill, marry, cuck

This is what happens when a subhuman with bad genetics tries to bulk and lift.

He probably dedicates himself more than these chads who fuck around in the gyms and have no idea what a macro or proper routine is. He will NEVER resemble these guys because of his shocking hormonal profile inherited by his subhuman parents. Look at those pathetic clavicles and feminine fat storage. God he needs to kill himself so badly. I pray he makes the right decision.

All that matters is genetics you worthless pieces of shit.

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But people with good genetics are chads and chads do steroids because they are chads

surfing dude. its lit

>definitely pays 30% of the what Veeky Forums spends in it
>probably believes all the broscience you can imagine
>looks better than Veeky Forums FUCKING EVER WILL

But... how?

Is it just the Alpha Genetics?

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

Fucking idiots he's making a joke, Veeky Forums really is autistic no wonder you're losers that don't fuck anybody

but this man clearly hasn't lifted or bulked

3>1>2>4>>>>>>>

don't forget the free college education and passing every class due to sympathy from faculty

No, chads don't do steroids because they are chads, they do it to get better at a sport or for some activity.

Homosexuals and genetically inferior losers, the vast majority of steriod abusers, do it because they desperately need it to validate themselves and be "more manly" or attractive to the same sex.

The guys in the OP? They ain't chads.

Oh they CAN look like that, but there is a 100% chance that all of them are casual steroid users. They're too low bodyfat and they have all of the signs of casual steroid use.

Just because they are Seid Panda Zyzz or chinese olympic lifter doesn't mean they aren't on juice.

Sometimes life is just so unfair...

looking at that picture made me realize that right now is probably the best time ever to be a Chad
there's no genetic engineering yet so the people with naturally best genetics have no competition and the technology is advanced enough to make life easy and fun as fuck as long as you're wealthy

>all of the signs of casual steroid use.

Point some of those out, please.

>The guys in the OP? They ain't chads.
the guy on the left played for the USC football team

>tfw watched a guy openly buy steroids at the supplement shop with his girlfriend

>No, chads don't do steroids because they are chads, they do it to get better at a sport or for some activity.
>Chad drinks, smokes pot, snorts coke, abuses Adderall and Xanax
>No Chad would never do steroids
No true Scotsman

Where can i buy tren or clen or whatever the fuck here in ontario canada? i don't know anybody that pins and im afraid to talk to some random at the gym.

Did you guys look at 4's feet?

Absolutely disgusting, he -has- to go into last place and not because of the non-existent tan in September (unjustifiable).

Riding the bench =/= play princess.

You should've posted a pic of Vegeta then faggot, then your post would've made sense. Goku has so much plot armor it's not even funny

white or chinese?

Dude idk go to fraud I neither use roids nor live in Canada

Traps, shoulders, relatively large muscle along with very low bodyfat and deep cuts in the abs.

That is only attainable for short periods of time for naturals. Plus they're all models or former wannabe athletes.

Even Sandow did a shit load of speed, hard dieted, and pumped up to look good for his photos.

Male model where mass is needed = casual steroid abuse.

They're using gear.

But Vegeta's the equivalent of an angry manlet who keeps looking at how swole the normal people are doing free weights but is too proud to stop using his "superior" saiyan machines which aren't getting him anywhere, until finally one day he accidentally takes creatine and goes super saiyan.

Ok...
How long have you been lifting?

>people on Veeky Forums prove they have no fucking clue what they're talking about
literally just low body fat and having a small chest. Half you retards get so impressed by bodies that are literally just low bodyfat and low muscle, then confuse it for high muscle mass because you've got no fucking clue what you're talking about.

Vegetables got over the manlet rage during Buu Saga though. He literally trains 24/7 and still isn't able to bridge the gap to goku because Toriyama hates him. When he goes SS for the first time it's cause he stops giving a fuck

You dont get it.
Goku is the chad, he is gifted with incredible strength, found great mentors, friends and opponents that made him grow. And had plot armour.
Vegeta instead was a manlet who got blown the fuck out by some earth rogue sayian, and from that moment trained his ass off to reach his level, and succeding to reaching SS2 level.
He learned to let go of his hatred and anger and sacrificed himself for the good of his friends several times.
He is the real hero of the series

TWINKS SHIT OUT

10+ years.

How long have you been lifting?

nah youre probably just locked into that roid perspective where everything thats not massive and unnatural looks tiny. you have to work a little for this body still

>job is to look good shirtless
>no why would I ever use anything to make me look better easier
The Chad circlejerk has gone too far you cucks

Actually Gohan is the Chad.

He's the gifted stud that everyone knows can fuck shit up but doesn't actually try because why should he. He's all talent that has almost no need to train because he's that good.

Goku is Joe. The guy who became a Chad through hardwork

Vegeta is actually far more gifted then Goku, he just sucks ass as a fighter and reached almsot the peak of what natural saiyans who don't have Goku's unique fighting and training talent can achieve.

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Their shoulders and traps are nowhere near big.
They have good ab and oblique definition, adonis belt and lats.
All coming from good genetics, low fat and being an athlete
If you actually think that is "high" muscle mass then you must not have lifted once in your life

No this guy just has klinefelter syndrome

I didnt even consider that little faggot.
How is vegeta more gifted than goku?
He surely was more priviledged and had more opportunities, arguably though, since Goku found amazing teachers, friends and rivals to help him get better

Chads grow up to be successful though, Gohan grew up and became a beta cuck.

You contradicted yourself in your last paragraph, how can Vegeta actually be more gifted than Goku but you also said Goku has more talent?

If anything, Vegeta is the far more tactical fighter

>knowing about dbz characters
please go

Vegeta IS more genetically gifted then Goku. Goku is just a better fighter and trainer then him.
Every time vegeta gets a new level of super saiyajin it's almost always stronger then Gokus similarly leveled super saiyan.

Problem is that Vegeta is rarely able to get to the same levels as Goku nor can he fight as well.

Goku NEEDS all of those trainers and boosts to get to his level.

Gohan is actually the very definition of a Chad. Genetically superior to everyone except a mutant human that will be born in the future of the DBZ timeline.
Rarely has to train to get extreme power boosts, and when he does he outclasses everyone so hard it's actually unfair.
And Chads know that they can't put food on the table by just being perfect so he became a successful "scholar".
He's also banging one of the richest women on the planet and has a baby girl.

Dude is all around successful.

but goku cheats

Nah breh, Goku just gets plot armor from being Toriyama's bitch boy. All his gains are explained through that. Vegeta is the Rock Lee of the series, only strong through hard work and training

I wouldn't call Gohan successful, maybe he's normie successful. But successful in the sense of being successful for DBZ, he's a fuckin wage cuck jobber.

>Gohan
>The definition of a Chad
>Spends all his time studying cause his mom makes him

Yea, no

Vegeta is unable to train as hard as Goku is because of his class attitudes.

Goku was raised in relative poverty and learned to work hard for everything he wanted.

Vegeta was born and raised as a future king in a culture that segregated kids from birth based on their genetic potential as soldiers. As a child, he would have been recognised as a gifted leader, several times stronger than any of his peers. He thus had little incentive to train to his full potential.

This system clearly worked quite well, as Vegeta and his lieutenants are shown to be incredibly powerful, completely eclipsing Goku's brother in terms of strength and skill –despite probably having received fairly similar training.

Raised outside of that system, Goku (with the possible exception of Piccolo) is likely the strongest and most accomplished fighter on earth at the point when he meets Raditz. And Raditz is still several times stronger than him. Because of that, and because of what I'll go into below, we can assume that Goku raised as a Sayan soldier would have likely been stronger than Goku raised on earth - possibly even rising quite high if his dedication and work ethic were the same - but he would likely NOT have equalled Vegeta.

In order to get to a level where he's able to go toe-to-toe with Nappa and Vegeta, Goku has to die and undergo supernaturally-enhanced training under the tutelage of a god, using and learning techniques almost nobody in the living world has access to. And even though he's able to beat Nappa in a straight fight, he consistently DRAWS against Vegeta.

However, because Vegeta has been raised in an environment where he's expected to be the best no matter what, he's unable to push himself as hard as Goku does, who was raised to expect nothing. He simply lacks the attitude and humility required to work as hard as Goku does.

Brah, Vegetables literally trains 24/7. He was raised as pretty much a hostage by Frieza. In Buu Saga he realized he'd never be able to bridge the natural talent gap between him and Kakorot and so he decided to stop being natty (used Babidi's magic)

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>Nah breh, Goku just gets plot armor from being Toriyama's bitch boy. All his gains are explained through that
so goku blasting senzu beans on his 6 day cycle trip to namek isnt using gear?

Look Goku is gifted yeah. But so was yajirobe.
Thing that seperates him and Yajirobe who could probably be as strong as if not a bit stronger then tien?
Work ethic.

Goku doesn't just work hard, he works smart, and he's a fucking brilliant fighter as well. Best part, he loves fighting.

Vegeta? He was born one of if not the most genetically gifted saiyan from his world.
And he works 5x as hard as goku 24/7.
He gets amazing gains and when he accidentally dumbfucks his way into another level of super saiyan(had to nearly die on a planet to get to one, and had to let himself be taken over by an evil space wizard to get to ssj2)he is almost always stronger then goku at that new level.

He just doesn't have what it takes to equal goku when it comes to pure skill and talent when it comes to fighting. That's it.

Chad = Strong and better then everyone with no effort and successful in life.
Gohan is the series Chad.

Dude, Vegeta trained HARDER then Goku erreyday ALL DAY all of the fucking time.
His work ethic eclipses goku in every fucking metric. It's even a plot point in the new DB.
Hell it's the main reason that people fucking worship the guy and use him in their training montages on youtube and the like.

Vegeta is quite litterally a 100% genetic Chad in his world. The problem is that Goku is more talented is better at training and has access to superior skills then him.
See, the super saiyans? They were NEVER meant to be as powerful as even Super Vegetta from the cell saga. I fucking doubt vegeta would have ever been able to go super saiyajin if he lived to be a thousand years old.

What changed? Goku a super saiyajin actually showed the way.

Even with his hard training and ability to outshine goku with the same SSJ levels and even push them far as fuck, he's STILL outshone by Goku in pure fighing talent.

And if Goku trained on Vegeta he would have never gotten stronger then Radditz. If he survived as a foot soldier.

2>1≥3>4=5 >Pw>>>>>>>>>PoOps

>he
Fuck off, video game addicted dsigusting degenerate monster.

Yea that too, but nearly all z fighters take them so it's a given

>Vegeta is quite litterally a 100% genetic Chad in his world

Vegeta is a manlet

He was, from the moment he was born, the strongest child on his world.
That is a plot point.
And in their society strength is everything.

Fuck yeah someone finally mentions surfing on this board. It's a based exercise

Yup. It is. Where do you surf?
>SoCal surfer checking in

I agree Yajirobe is a lazy fuck and it separates him from Tien. Up until the current series, Vegeta has NEVER been stronger than goku. As an SSJ, they were maybe about equal, when he went ss2, he was evenly matched with ss2 goku except Vegeta gave him a cheap shot so he could fight Buu, Goku held back his ss3 form on purpose.

Gohan still had to train hard to get strong, just look at the Revival of Frieza film, Gohan lost so much power from not training since the Buu Saga that he struggles to go even SS1. If we wanna talk about who the real Chad is, someone who's strong without much effort, it's definitely Broly

Can you get ripped just by surfing?

rofl no.

He was stronger then goku during the saiyan saga, during the namek saga(before he started training in 100x gravity) when he first went SSJ1 and when he first went SSJ2.

His super saiyan forms are always slightly stronger then gokus super saiyan forms.
Problem is that he's not that good of a fighter and his ego.

Gohan was STILL the strongest Z fighter there and he was so under trained and out of practice that he lost his fucking gi.
Dude showed up to a end of the world battle in a fucking track suit and styled over EVERYONE.

If he trained seriously in the time chamber he'd have been able to go toe to toe with frieza up till he went gold and still held his own for a little while.
Period.

that's not klinefelters, he just had a poor hormonal balance during puberty, still salvageable, but never will be chad.

Actually Vegeta specifically mentions that Goku was stronger than him during their first battle (going off the Ocean dub dialogue), that's why he uses the fake moon thing to turn into great ape. His SS forms are equal to his at best, he was "stronger" than Goku when he first when SS against Android 19 since Goku was literally having a heart attack. His Super Vegeta form was, yes, stronger than Fully mastered SS when goku fought cell, but they explained that Vegeta sacrificed a lot of speed to get that strong and it wasn't efficient enough to fight cell. His SS2 form was pretty much equal to Goku's, dunno why you think he was stronger since Vegeta beat him with a cheap shot.

Vegeta is an amazing fighter, he's arguably the most tactical fighter in the series besides Piccolo. Ego does get the best of him, or at least it used to. A big plot point from Revival of F was that Goku was always super optimistic that he'd win any battle and thus was merciful. Vegeta was more cautious.

Gohan was able to beat most of Frieza's guards in that movie since he had left over gains from when he had his potential unlocked (pretty much steroids in a way, can you really be considered natty if you get an easy to get to your max potential?) Doubtful that he'd be able to go toe to toe with pre golden Frieza even if he kept up his training, Goku was able to do so since he had absorbed God ki

>Actually Vegeta specifically mentions that Goku was stronger than him during their first battle (going off the Ocean dub dialogue), that's why he uses the fake moon thing to turn into great ape.

where does he say this? i was always under the impresson that goku surpassed him for like a second but it wrecked him body. had vegeta kept a calm head he wouldnt have needed to go ape

>(going off the Ocean dub dialogue),
oh thats the thing, the dub doesnt mean anything

holy fuck, I didn't notice that lmao

1>3>2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Cmon man, now you're just splitting hairs, so what, are we only going off the Manga then? Or only the Japanese sub?
Eh whatevs, we're probably never gonna agree on this, but I had fun debating DBZ stuff with you anyways DB bro. Wish you many gains and broken PRs

God damn you're a bunch of autists. This is a fitness forum. At least spam some moeshit avatars so I can write you off as /a/ rejects.

Definitely some photo trickery going on there. Shits fake

Can you achieve this natty? How?

what are you talking about, they weigh less than 75kg. They are not carrying much muscle at all.

I don't see steroid users here, likely just fat burning compounds.