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>Doctor insisted 350ng/dl test is normal for a 20y/o man and that the range is calibrated to your age rather than just being a range for men from 18 to 70

What the fuck?

Do you guys think it's safe to use year+ old MCT oil to brew if it's been kept in a dark place? I should probably stop being cheap and just buy a new one though.

test range is stupidly varied. A different doc would offer TRT with double that.

What she said was entirely opposite to what you guys say and everything I've read

Like wtf

what a terrible swimsuit choice

Happened to me, too. It's not *that* low, but it's also probably not as high as it would normally be at your age.
I know, right? She'll never get that zipped up all the way.

>women doctors

but for real though, they don't want to give you anything because your test levels are "fine" but still on the low end of a very huge scale.

Go to one of those sketchy "anti-aging" docs if you're desperate, those guys will give anyone a HGH and test prescription on the spot.

is it true mass T is a cuckold who Preps a bull daily for his 5/10 gf?

Thus explaining his hard on for black bodybuilders?

isn't 300ng like the lowest of the range? I'm not far off it...

Even for 20 year olds? I'm in canada that'd be dope

Probably not.

Depends which source you use to get the range. Some have it as low as 200ish, some have it as high as 400ish.

300 is very low (imo). I prefer to sit at 3500.

>I'm in Canada
>not gitting a free ref to an endo

I'm a freakin grill and I have a test script you have 0 excuses for not just dr shopping the free health care system senpai

...

Wtf?

Teach me bby. I don't understand this fucking healthcare system. My family doctor told me to fuck off. Plesse teach to doctor shop

Look it is the smack whore with no ass that looks like a man.

I went to an endo in Toronto. Those guys are ready to put you on anything if you sound desperate enough.

Still sticking to buying bathtub chems until they start offering tren subscriptions though

Straight up ask for a referral. Worst case say your nipples are itchy and you think they're growing- instant endo appointment. If they say no go to the next clinic, not like it costs you anything.

I didn't even go to my doctor for one, just some random walk-in.

Thats because youre a girl
Its very difficult for male to get test, its extremely demonized

Youll still have fo visit multiple endos.
Just self medicate.

Most likely. Be prepared for extra pip

wooo canadanons lets have sex while estp watches

Damn really?

Even at 20? Seems minimum is like 30 for trt... fuk I'm going to hit up every walkin clinic then

I'm not in Toronto though but I guess I could mission

Yea I will but it'd be nice to have legit shit too

>mfw can't decide if I'm yandere or tsundere towards notbf

Jerry is there a combo between the two?

Go to walkins and tell them you have no senpai dr and ask for endo refs if you can't just get this cunt hole to do it

Bonus points if male dr and you pretend to break down crying cuz they gonna find that hella awkward

Yes. Ty. It is seriously that simps

Does this count as cheating

Thats just bein mean

Lol truu

I asked my senpai doctor and she literally said the opposite of what any google resource says about test levels. Like wtf

I mean she's nice but what the heck

Okay I'm going to hit every walkin clinic.

We gonna get 8 TRT prescriptions then deal Pharma test to my boys

But the fuck do I say to the endo?

18 year old here should i take HGH ? will I get permanent results since I am still growing

>the fuck do I say to the endo?

"I feel like shit and I got my test levels measured and it said they are very low and my dick doesn't work too well can I have test?"

If by permanent results you mean a heart 3 times the normal size then yes. Just stick to normal gear till you're like 25.

Estpeeee I think i'm broken. I literally don't care for sex in the least.

Ended up driving down to fuck some 18 yr old who was giving me coke, just not into it at all. Ended up driving home goin 97 with used condoms and coke all over my car and got a fixit ticket.

I think I need to see a therapist cuz sex does nothing for me.

>Just stick to normal gear
isn't that worse ? all the talk about fucking up your test production for good scares me

>Exogenous Test
>Has to ask if it is cheating.

where did you get that? I was curious about it when I heard girls who compete at the crossfit games use that

>extra pip
because of MCT or because of the age? People seem conflicted about mct some say it's the best and people on here seem to say that it is absorbed too quickly and leaves the hormone.

well if you fuck up your test then worst case you have to be on gear for life. Worst case for growth is fucked up organs or that thing where your face looks like the Crimson Chin. Don't get me wrong I'd still personally do it but its very likely a bad idea.

Also growth is stupidly fucking expensive. a year of growth is like a decade of various sterons.

>can I have test

Is it literally that easy?

>watches

Get a daki
Of course 3d women won't please you

Theyre professional atheletes.
Theyre on roids.
But there are many better options than test cream lmao

Mote pip cause its broken down

...

just dont ever mention anything about fitness and they won't assume you want easy gainz. Literally list some low-test symptoms and say your dad was also low-test and got TRT or something.

as long as you dont sound like a gymbro tryin to get huge they won't care. Maybe leave your 5% hoodie at home.

what do I take to look like this?

I believe in you breh you got dis


Kek there's been a few times ive done into a walkin with an empty vial of test and been like 'blahblah blah cry i ran out and my endo is on vacation i don't remember his name he works at x hospital can you please give me a refill?' And they do it without even checking to see if my health record mentions anything

Some drs jyst don't give any fucks, just find em

Bb you just need some good ass pussay

Cum here nd I'll fix all yo woes senpai

Or theyll say youre just depressed and leave that in your medical hustory forever.

Fucking doctors

Where is my ticket so i can use your corpse as a daki

Where's yolo?

Dammit yolo! Post jb pls!

I dunno bruh, I have no interest in it I drove down just for the coke. I cant cum from sex and lose all what little interest I had in the lead up once my dick is inside. Just a hey cool you let me in, good to know cya.
Find me a daki that can keep me cool in the summers.

Just feels weird mang, not even tren can make me give a shit about poundin puss. She wants me to fuck her in the ass tomorrow and I might just cuz I never have but after that going back to no sex for another 8 years. Wish I was disfigured or some shit so people would stop expecting me to have sex.

Fuck

I think that's what did me in last time.

>Only in Saskatchewan

I wonder if it's pricy without insurance, my mom's bout to run out I think

I'm reading t-nation and northernmuscle posts about niggas that scribe this shit now
Why do doctors do this

I'm just looking up doctors on ratemd that seem chill now.

>tfw browsing fraud while in the bath

>use your corpse as a daki

Opposed to being stuffed in one? Uhnnm senpai I'm moving up in lyfe desu ne ~

Dakis warm up as you hold them its goat

>Wish I was disfigured or some shit so people would stop expecting me to have sex.
Its not that fun trust me

Well first in the daki
Then you become one.
Gotta prototype

Mirin jelly
Im just on hydrocodon
I cant get my leg wet i want a bath

You're probably one of those weirdos who needs to foster some kind of mental or emotional connection to enjoy the sex

I could fix fucking stimmed out deca dick senpai. I'll be the-rapist bb don't waste ur dollarydoos elsewhere

Now lay back on my couch and tell me how that makes you feeeeel ; )

Sask has like the lowest dr per populous r8 in canada other than like nfl or something idr

You got tons of options senpai git out there

I somehow don't feel confident

Would they really prescribe a young fella test if I annoy them enough

W-well if it's for s-science... desu...

that is literally the opposite of everyone I've ever heard's experience with trt

first you gotta doctor shop for the referral because you can't go to an endocrinologist directly, which is super time consuming and entirely luck based. then when you do manage to get your referral, endos are booked for months, so you get your first visit 3-4 months later, and that's not when you're getting the prescription anyway, it's gonna take at least 2 visits

the canadian health care system might be free, but it's fucking awful still

tfw no chinky eyed gf

Well not if you're full of all this gayass self doubt

That's the low test talking

Either buy online like the rest of us or disregard the thought of doubts or consequences and git fucking going

Don't hassle them if they aren't complying just move onto the next one. Look them in the eye and be firm but don't demand - drs are stubborn spiteful douches

Its because shes a female
Theres not the stigma

Finally ill have my own real irl daki
I should have turned to slaughter years ago

For real man

Our healthcare's fucked. Besides, would you even get TRT at that point? I got a feeling the endo would tell you to just screw off

Give me a script to follow

>Plis gibe testostero

I'm p. sure u a handsome feller senpai. Also why the fuck I want a daki to warm up when my room is already 115.

emotional connection haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I dunno i've never had one with someone I dicked. I'd rather just do coke all day and shoot the shit here and then go play sports, sex just ain't the hobby for me.

What if you actually did fix my dick in a solid shota rape fantasy session. I don't even know how to live that life fampai.

Dave Palumbo recommended
1g test
and 300-400mg eq
as a decent bulk blast

what the fuck is the point of eq at this dose? most often I see eq recommended in the 600-800mg range on forums

Went smoothly for me

Canadas health care system will try to softly cuck you every turn, just don't take it if you don't want to get bumfucked

Just cuz the anecdoctal evidence you read had em all saying sorry eh I'll wait forevz don't mean it has to be that way

I still firmly believe its easier and if you dobt have insurance way cheaper to just buy online but hey

I'm speaking half from anecdotes half from experience

I went to a derm for accutane with a doctor's referral and it took FOUR MONTHS for my first visit because she was booked months in advance

it's truly awful

An autismo script scenario aint gonna work,read and react or order online srs

I buy my var international but there's tons of legit cad domestic sauces senpai don't waste your time with drs if you expect me to do the work for you

It's a pain in the fuck

I got p bad shoulder pain and the best I could get is a meme physio referral, I just want to see a knowledgeable orthomeme but idk fycking how.

Also like 6 month+ waiting list

KILL ME

I waited 6 months to see a derm. Then bsrely got accutane

Then when my acne came back he said I have the option of accutane again if I want. Said no and came back in a month

>Well I think accutane is dangerous blahblahblah...

Wtf

Yeah I know familia

But id just feel more comfort on pharma

>tfw don't live in a 3rd world country

>Have no Dr
>cant see Endo without referral
>insurance won't cover anyway
>Find random Dr, he says bloods are a little low but fine so he won't refer me

AND U WONDER WHY I DO SHIT ILLEGALLY

Ask for a different doc. Some are booked for months, some are free the next day. The medical system is retarded. In ON at least they can give you a referral to the specific doc you want- its how I got my surgery referral for free.

Honestly though jsut buy illegal shit. At some point you're gonna want to use more than test anyways and will have to go through the whole iffy mystery chemical routine. If they stop your shit at the border you just lost money, cops wont show up unless you got like 10 grand worth of gear. There are also some really good domestic sources and (as a last resort) random roid monkeys at the gym.

lol what did you even tell your doctor to get test prescription as a girl

>its part of my transition

There is no what if. I will. Now git in my candy van you little cunt

I went to a derm for accutane too

I told them to git fucked when they said it'd be a 6 month wait, said I was suicide and wouldn't leave the house ober it (lies), walked into the derm a week or two later, sat down and said ' I want accutane' and done

I know this method cant work for everyone but it's cuz you all too pussy to have shir on your health record that half the med systems don't even pass on to each other

I've been marked as aspd, drug seeking, barred from addictive subs for suspected selling of them etc

Guess who still gits scripts

The reality of our shit healthcare system is they make mistakes, don't care, are underpaid, in short supply, over worked and human. There is SO MUCH opportunity to abuse that if you get over this weird stigma you all have thinking there's some ultimate unbypassable system in place

I'm already on roids, that's not my issue.

I travel 9 weeks a year at least though, 3 weeks at a time. having a script would make everything so fucking easy but right now I'm limited to cycling instead of cruising.

Yeah ik but how do you know who's booked up?

I'm in Ontario too btw.

Oh and protip: call and ask for cancellation list, you can get in a week for appointments months from now if someone cancels(and they DO)

>Said I was suicidal over it and said I want accutane

Is it THIS easy or is it just another example of the pussypass in action? God damn I gotta try this

if anything, it would bar you from ever getting accutane from someone who knows what he's doing since depression is one of the main sides

but who knows, the power of pussy is strong

>I travel 9 weeks a year at least though, 3 weeks at a time. having a script would make everything so fucking easy but right now I'm limited to cycling instead of cruising.

Same exact shit i'm stuck with right now, being stuck with cycling only is just trash. Have to go to japan for 2 weeks at the end of october and i'm prolly just gonna bring preloaded syringes with me in my backpack and tell em to eat shit.

you can get anything you want in canada if you find the right balance between being polite and being an assertive cunt.

Hey Veeky Forums

I've ran OSTA and MK677 before, but my source took my money and ran.

Should I start LGD for a bulk? Or should I just start pinning dat dere test? Can anyone help me out? [email protected]

You have to make it clear you're suicidal over your skin and not suicidal in general

Jeeze use your heads guys

I seem to be the only Canadian who's doctor refuses to give him anything. Couldn't even get pain meds for a slipped disc without my MOM present and I'm 25 years old. Never been anything but polite to the doc too.

Yeah I'm salty.

Thank god I just switched to a new family doc so we'll see if this one is more amicable and not a sadist

Yes. Thank you. This is the truth

Fuck trudeau just made it legal for addicts who cant quit to get prescription heroin in one province like stop wasting your manipulative potentials it's 2016 bb

>you can get anything you want in canada if you find the right balance between being polite and being an assertive cunt.

Tips?

I'm having difficulty in this. I go too much to either side, either I'm assertive or a cuck

How do I keep a balance

How 2 find good senpai doc?

Just random?

desu I don't really have any idea

This is the first time I've had to look for a personal family doctor (the last one was my family doctor through adolescence / my family)

I'm hoping I get lucky because most of the practitioners in this new place seem on the younger side; hopefully they're more open minded because of that.

> More than one doc said that my T level of 150ng/dL - 250ng/dL (depending on the bloodwork) was normal and that only people with hypogonadism (below 100ng/dL) needed TRT.

was an exercise in futility for me. said fuck it and hopped on gear after researching shit myself.

you should try to jump through hoops rx trt during your early 20's in Canada where possession of steroids for personal use is not a crime and pay 3x as much to use 150 mg / week dosage of testosterone that will do absolutely nothing instead of blasting and cruising and getting actual results.

>pay 3x as much
my insurance covers fuckin everything

yeah same

Either my senpai purposely picked the worst docs or idk.

I'm gonna search new one

I suppose your right but I got 100% coverage on prescriptions and it'd be nice to be set for life with it

It's retarded

How do people get med degrees wtf

in that case, enjoy your universal healthcare, your androgel and having 800 ng/dl testosterone levels, faggot

Damnit I keep getting pip from FLs test e. I don't know if I'm allergic to the carrier or what.

People give the postal service too much shit desu. Raws got from China to customs and cleared in 2 days.

Probably because now its old and theoil has degraded.

Or because its test c
>that guy on reddit who threw out 10 vials because it didnt labmax as e before tgere were any bloods

...

Is the method to see an endo in Canada the same as for other specialists?

Pretty sure I fucked my rotator cuff and my dumb GP isn't referring me to shit

>theoil has degraded.
Hope not. It was from right before he shut down 99
>test c
Wait what, is it really?

>have been on TRT for a year
>injecting 250-300mg testc a week, every week
>mfw starting to hate injecting
>mfw i realize i have to do this every week for the rest of my life

also why do I get this weird ass feeling in my chest and then cough after injecting
feels weird man

I doubt it's giving you PIP because it's degraded, but 8-9 month old gear, could be giving you PIP because it needs to be re-filtered.

just be glad you don't have to shoot dope errday senpai

the cypionate ester itself is... oddly predisposed to pip pretty much no matter what compound it's attached to

>>injecting 250-300mg testc a week, every week

yeah that's not actually trt dosage unless you're a hilariously terrible responder

stop nicking veins right on top of the depot site and get some test u

>could be giving you PIP because it needs to be re-filtered.

huh?

>compound it's attached to
I've never had a problem with pharma cyp but it's only brewed at 200mg/ml and probably less BA than he used.

>test u
Not him but I'm probably going to switch over to that soon. How did you brew yours? and what dose do you run it at?

god it just makes me giddy thinking about running test u because I travel spontaneously and I'd rather not bring roids if I didn't have to although I have in the past.

>I've never had a problem with pharma cyp but it's only brewed at 200mg/ml and probably less BA than he used.

it's not the ba that's necessarily the problem, from what I've seen it's more likely to be due to the ester somehow having slightly shit solubility relatively speaking compared to enanthate, which means when somebody tries to brew it at the same concentrations as enanthate without taking measures to mitigate the solubility problem you're going to have a bad time

also pharma cyp is usually 0.9% ba and 20% bb

>How did you brew yours? and what dose do you run it at?

250mg/ml, 1% ba because why the fuck am I going to try and measure hundredths of mls instead of a nice round number, I think 15-20% bb, and safflower oil

a little thick but smooth as butter

So do you guys stop doing tren because supposedly the sides get worse over time or just set a time beforehand?

reminder

fuckkkkk finallyyyyyy going awayyyyyyy

> Im just on hydrocodon

jelly af here

face looking like quagmire.

>safflower oil
ah shit, yeah I forgot that I'd have to use a slower absorbing oil too. You pin it once a week?