This movement! + Sexual Health Thread

Veeky Forums, anyone have any experience with this particular motion (picture attached)? What muscles go into successfully accomplishing the movement in pic?

Starting from the woman standing on floor to this position - what is it? Back? Tris? Glutes? Also, best exercises to add to routine to get better at this specific movement? I can only sustain it for so long and I'm a pretty decently sized guy with some pretty small women.


Also, general sexual health thread here as well, feel free to ask away.

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do zercher squats

reps and hold for time too

I'd aim for at least 40lbs more than what the girl weighs.

curls too.

Yes, with a korean "massage therapist". There were mirrors in the room and I wanted to be Patrick Bateman and stare at myself doing lewd things. She was

Kinda like a rack pull, there's not really a lifting motion but more of just holding her

If not fraudin' I'm actually slightly jelly. Not that I want a massage therapist, but the concept of it seems awesome especially cause (though I'm not certain) they don't really fuck.

Ok, zercher squats look interesting, I'll incorporate those as well. Rack pulls make sense as well. Maybe will cycle with deads.

Depends where you go. The massage thing is usually just a shitty cover for straight up trafficking. I've never actually seen a place that gave good massages AND gave strange on the side.

I'm disappointed in myself because I forgot to point at myself while winking and yell dubs.

>be a premature ejaculator
>thought it was nerves from being a virgin
>get a girfriend
>shit never went away

Theres no point in even approaching women

Did you do your kegals my dude? Also, belly breathing. Helpful.

oh ive tried.
my ex thought it was kind of cute, and i could usually stay hard enough after cumming to keep going for a while, occasionally came a second time so its not the most impossible thing but its not something i fancy dealing with the future.

Ive tried kegels, breathing, sticking with certain postures.
none of it works

Why are you premature? Just curious? I had the opposite problem from porn. Whenever I quit i started cumming faster but I can usually keep a lid on it unless the pussy is just too damn good and I don't wanna slow down.

Maybe you're just tapping some quality ass

Deads
Glute ham raises
Curls
Overhead press/handstand pushups

High rep tabata style calisthenics/lifting circuits to build muscle and anaerobic endurance.

>why are you premature
i wish i knew bro.
It just happens.
I can go soft to hard, cum in well under a minute and thats when jerkin it.

In pussy I usually (85% of the time) cum by the fifth pump

holy shit what's quick. I hope you're good at foreplay

yeah its not like im "yeah man, i can only fuck for like 5 minutes, so premature"

Actually have no control over it and its awful.

Same here, man. Masturbation and sex are literally 5-10 pumps in time.
Did you jerk off quick as a kid, looking to orgasm as quick as possible as to not be caught by anyone? Or have you always kind of look at sex in a nervous super, and all, meaningful kind of thing which makes or breaks a guy?

it doesnt really matter how much you can lift, a static hold in that position is hard as fuck and you probably cant do it longer than a couple minutes unsupported desu

>jerk off quick
no, not really, actually have been into edging for a long time.
>sex
definitely nervous and the situation is pretty crushing to my self esteem.
I do understand its not the be-all end-all, but between a lower sex drive and not really being excited for sex due to it, there were issues with my ex regarding it so I believe I give it reasonable influence.

I'd settle for just being able to lift her from standing to throwing her on the bed in one fluid/non-jerky motion. I just got back from the gym and couldn't smoothly do the zercher squats above 125 so maybe I start there?

Although I'm curious what mechanics make the static hold harder.

I know telling you not worry about it and learn to live with it is utter shit when it comes to advice, BUT... It's what you have to do, my man. It's just sex. Whole premise is to cum anyway so do it and then finish off the chick however possible. You making it a negative and shitty situation isn't helping the chick in anyway either, so maybe think of it that way? You making it a negative situation can only bring her down to so man up, learn to live with and simply say "Fuck it." then go ahead and fuck it.
Also, finding a supportive chick will help.
Also, they're out there.
Also, there are those numbing gels.
Also, good luck.

I am normally not as negative about it in person/with a girl as I know its offputting.
>numbing gels
tried those, nothing

Thanks anyways man.

Does it help being drunk or under the influence of anything?

>drunk
doesnt do anything at my usual level, havent tried when smashed tho

it feels like I can last longer if I am high, but that could just be my sense of time being off cause high

Maybe it's psychological? Falling into a pattern of believing and "knowing" you'll cum quickly so it happens without, or what seems to be, your control?
I dunno, man. Just shooting idea although not sure how it will help. All I know is that you're not alone and stop worrying so much. Just cum, pack your shit up, and go home.

So remember that ejaculation is controlled by sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight) and erection by parasympathetic.

Sometime in the late 80s we discovered dual models of arousal. Meaning that something in your environment can tell you body to go into sympathetic nervous system mode or you body can do it without you. (that's a simplified version).

The combination of your nervousness of expecting to go into sex with PE issues, disappointing a potential partner, general sex nerves, is playing a heavy role in why you have PE problems (this part is not up for debate) and it tends to compound on itself.

In addition, you have probably unknowingly practiced totally giving up control of your breathing and heart rate when having sex and eventually ejaculating prematurely. Speed and pacing of breathing directly affects heart rate (you know this from Veeky Forums) but what you didn't know is that your increased HR can actually PUT you into a sympathetic nervous system state all by itself.

Those two factors together are going to make it exceedingly difficult to get a firm grasp on your PE problem.

I can't tell you exactly what to do, but first step is to forgive yourself and give yourself room to fail. Failure is fine. Next step is taking a couple minutes each day and working on controlling your heart rate and slowing it down.

Oops: Here's a paper describing the exact thing I'm taking about if you're especially interested. indiana.edu/~sexlab/files/pubs/JanssenBancroft.pdf

They focus on ED because that's the kind of research that gets funded (due to their being an existing product on the market) but PE is literally the exact same issue on the opposite end of the spectrum so it applies the same way.

Just got with my second girl after a long relationship, where I didn't have to use a condom. Tried the condom, fucking neither of us could feel anything so I took it off and raw dogged her. I know I'm fucked if she has anything, but how can I deal with this absolute lack of sensation. I lose my boner in seconds.

When do YOU get a bonor?

I'm deathly afraid of ED because the 1st time I ever had sex I had bad whiskey dick. And I only get laid like once a year but I get my bonor whenever she slightly touches me lol

Before sex when do you get your SECKS BONOR? When you are taking off clothes? When she is heading you?

Do you have any rituals or tips or tricks to get that perfect 110% SECKS BONOR?

Have you tried opiates? Or Zoloft? Day 1 Zoloft and it took me an hour. I'd also add cialis cause I could only get a semi. On opiates I fuck like a champ usually, but it's not failsafe. And sometimes I just get annoyed with her and lose interest.

Been through the PE due to meds. I know how terrible it is. Worst was literally upon entry.
>"Um hey I'm gonna change the condom, doesn't feel right"
>Finish second time in 2 pumps

Just lift.

Probably pretty fucking generalized and pretty fucking easy if that DYEL can do it. Lifting for that specifically is a pretty low fucking goal m8

Thanks bro

thanks for the post m8.
I dunno if it totally fits because i dated my ex for almost two years, had totally dropped any expectation of satisfying her(near impossible to get her to orgasm anyways).
I will keep trying though.

Ive taken klonopin a couple of times with my ex, no changes that I can remember.

There have been a couple of times I get what i call Diamond Dick, a preposterously hard morning wood, and those couple of times i didnt cum for at least 5 minutes. Was pretty dope

a little lower back, a little forearms, but primarily biceps. Ive been considering adding bicep isolation into my routine since i hooked up with a tall girl and was only able to hold her up for a few minutes, biceps being the failing factor

Oh, I do, I don't lift for that, I just noticed that when I tried it a bit ago I felt really jerky and not fluid in that motion (probably lack of practice?) and I was trying to see if there was a functional lift that I was missing anywhere that I could add.

He is pretty DYEL and I'm pretty sure he dropped her after the photo was taken.

Read all your posts m8, have you tried going to a therapist? They'll be able to tell whether your premature ejaculation is psychological or physical, or some combination of the two. If it's fucking you up in your life and you're anxious about it, just go to a professional. Sounds like you've tried pretty much everything else to no avail, so a therapist really couldn't hurt.

By the way, you should at least be glad you've made it with girls and actually had sex. I'm still a virgin and it causes me anxiety too. Good luck.

Benzos ain't gunna do shit

No I have not.
Probably should.

It may not be comforting coming from me, but i promise, being a virgin is really not a big deal. I didn't lose my virginity till I was 22 (single pump cam into a girl) and didnt have sex again till I was 23.

Unless you really want it to be special or something, just go out to bars/hit girls up on tinder/etc.

Me and my girl used to have great sex but after a bunch of pregnancy scare and arguments about having kids (I'm 23 she's 20 and I don't want kids in the future but she does), I can't stay hard and I cum quickly now.

I'm good at oral but this amongst the other things are really messing with my head.

After you cum, how long does it take you to recover?

Have you tried going for round 2 afterward?

Just turned 24. I think at this age any girl expects a guy to really perform and being a virgin is a complete no-go. I have girls interested in me and I've dated a couple briefly, but neither relationship went anywhere. Guess it's just really bad anxiety that stops me from trying to have sex at this point. Finding a girl who's also a virgin, even if she's younger, seems near impossible. How did you deal with it your first time?

this position is a piece of shit for most pairs that dont have proper matching proportions

>Me and my girl used to have great sex but after a bunch of pregnancy scare and arguments about having kids (I'm 23 she's 20 and I don't want kids in the future but she does), I can't stay hard and I cum quickly now.

How poor is the protection management if you're having pregnancy scares. If you're at an crossroads and disagree on whther or not you're having kids, you need to be FUCKING sure there is no pregnancy until you're ready (if ever) or break up with her now because of incombatibility.

There are oogles of women who don't want kids. Hot, fun, kind, gorgeous women so don't mess around. At the end of the day if something goes bad and she gets pregnant it's in her sole discretion as to whether to keep it or not.

i asked my ex to do this position with me and it wasn't even enjoyable because I had to hang on for dear life with my arms and legs. being carried is fun when not fucking tho

>On Zoloft
>Sex drive is way down
Anyone else on Zoloft noticing this or is it just me?

Shouldn't you be more concerned about getting her pregnant?

Right, I'm sure you found it hot getting lifted/carried and thrown onto the bed? No?

That's really what I'm trying to get at. I agree standing sex sucks.

I need to do this.

it's a pretty common side effect of ssris

I had gotten into the masturbating habit of jerking off without worrying about cumming fast the first time, then edging the second time, penis kind of learned to stay hard.
I usually cum, then keep going for till im too tired to keep going, cum a second time, or end up flaccid.

I think you'll be fine. Just make sure you get on that foreplay game. Theres a key and peele skit about eating girls out thats actually spot fucking on great advice.
There was a girl who was really interested in me, we had almost hooked up a couple of times but I wasn't that into her/expecting anything to happen. Then we got drunk one night and she was all "this is happening now" and I just went with it.
Went down on her for a while, inserted, came immediately, she then was like "oh fuck, do you have a condom on", found one but ended up flaccid by that point.
that was pretty much it.

Yes and no. I pulled out of my girlfriend for about 3 years before she went on the pill. I have good control downstairs.

kind of? starts getting hot once you're on top of me and let some of your weight rest on me. i used to date a strongman and he could carry me with one arm but I liked it bc it was fun and silly.

Thanks for the advice man. I've actually seen that skit you're talking about. Just out of curiosity, how did the girl react your first time?

Damn man I have the same problem. Just as fast as you too.

I unfortunately don't really have much advice. Kegels made it worse I think. The only thing that has worked is kinda getting past the initial bit and then if I survive the first time I'm gonna cum, I can usually last a bit after that.

My problem is it's combined with ED. Can't get hard, once I finally do, stick it in, cum instantly.

Suicide is my plan.

She actually said "theres no way you havent done this before" during oral, so that part went fine.
she was actually pretty considerate of the one pump chump thing too.

fuck thats rough. you try drinking/drugs/viagra?

> starts getting hot once you're on top of me and let some of your weight rest on me.

The eternal question of whether to smoosh her with weight or just lean on her. Anyway, I'm sorta surprised by that answer, good to know!

Therapy first, suicide after discussion with therapist.

Good to know there are at least some girls out there who won't mercilessly make fun of you for being premature. I don't know if I'll have that problem, but I might be able to last a bit. Is there any correlation between how long you take to cum when masturbating and how long you last during sex?

the girl i lost my virginity to, my ex, and the one other girl ive had sex with didnt mock me for it.
my ex thought it was cute because "i was so attracted to her i couldnt help myself"

I can only speak for myself but yes.

Thanks man, that helps

Dating a 45kg grill right now so it's incredibly easy to maintain this position and she loves it, I don't feel a lot of stress since she's so light but good mornings would help quite a bit here.

I went to doctor and was gonna bring up depression but it was a chad and awkward enough mentioning dick issues, lol.

I can't afford therapy otherwise I would.

SRS question, if I'm 5'10" and she's like 5'5" or so, am I too heavy to just rest all my weight on her after? Is roll off my only option after? Good way to roll onto back without slipping out?

From my understanding, that's appreciated, but only briefly? That being said, I'm not a woman so not sure!

woman's opinions on being carried like this?

Is being overweight and having fat near your groin reason for having ed? Needing to watch porn or good ball locking by the girl before I get hard to fick properly. No joke

yes, not a good look

youtube.com/watch?v=hn6DOvhGJJU

Not OP, but how much will zercher squats help?

>Currently a relative noob on greyskull
>A few weeks ago I did this to my gf
>We made out and she was ridiculously into it
>I couldn't hold her for long
I'd love to be able to sustain this for a few minutes. 40;bs more than she weighs might take a few weeks, though.

Is it healthy to eat pussy?

not with random bitches, unless you want that throat cancer

How can I get rid of premature ejaculation

Usually, my first time hooking up with a girl I either cum before we even get to vaginal sex or I come within like the first minute or so

They end up never calling me back... but if I'm consistently having sex with the same girl we end up having actually enjoyable sex after like the 3rd or 4th time as long as it wasn't spread too far apart

Where exactly does one find a sexual therapist? Just go to a doctor and say "heyyy me and my dick are all fucked up who can I talk to?"

Nut before you sex

nothing. blame evolution. it's evolutionarily advantageous to cum fast. You're the work of the millions of years of evolution.

practice with smaller women

I liked that position but with my arms under her knees rather than over. Plus when you pull her against you it gives you a sweet bicep pump while you put extra pressure on her clip. Felt way easier to hold her up too

>40;bs more than she weighs might take a few weeks, though.

better start now. Zercher's really do help. Especially just doing a static hold, really strengthens the core.

This isn't a hard position provided your gf isn't fat. Used to do it even before I started lifting.