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Remember to keep a steady pace, keep hydrated (WATER), check your form, and eat proper.

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Wellcome brehs

So, I'm a beginner (been running about 5K a couple of times a week for the past few weeks), and I don't have 'proper' running shoes. I've been using some New Balances like pic related, they feel comfy and so far I haven't felt any discomfort, so I was wondering if more basic sneakers are bad in the long run. Sneakers like the Nike Cortez or vintage Adidas shoes.

Say I want to keep running using these kinds of sneakers, will I fuck my shit up?

You will JUST your feet up if you use those for running

Go to your local running store (LRS) and ask for advice on a good pair of running shoes. They will probably let you test and fit the shoes to your liking and set you up with a very solid shoe. A good pair of shoes can save you so much.

The cortez is notoriously bad as an actual running shoe. Any modern shoe is better.

Wouldn't my feet adapt to the lack of cushioning or whatever it is modern shoes have and older ones lack?

But the thing that doesn't make much sense to me is that people ran with simpler sneakers for a long ass time. If a more simple shoe were that bad, wouldn't all of the old runners last very little competing because of injuries and such?

I'm not trying to be a smartass or something, it's just that I've read some stuff online and, as a beginner, it's kind of confusing; on one side there are people saying that your shoe has to be almost tailor made to your every little idiosyncrasy, and on the other, there are guys telling you to fucking buy gloves for your feet and go running around the city.

Low or no cushion shoes are sort of unrealistic because most of the time you will end up, like it or not, running on pavement, which is what will damage your joints. As a species we have not adapted to hard surfaces yet so, are you willingly going to risk your health by not using a well cushioned shoe (something we positively know that works) because of a thesis that's just about your age?

No

Look, your shoes might be comfy but they arent designed for you to run long distances in. Its like playing ping pong. You can play ping pong with a flat wooden slab, ball, and wooden paddles, but are you going to be getting a good experience out of it, even if it feels "comfy"? You need the right equipment for the right job. Running in old nonrunning shoes will simply destroy your running pattern. Trust me, I tried it once and I'm not doing it any time soon.

Thank you both for your advice, I think I'll get a proper running shoe.

Did week 7 day 1 and ran 25 minutes straight feeling good. Just gotta ice my knee and ankle and I'm good to go Wednesday.

How do you guys run without your joints being dead in 20 years?

If your joints hurt after running on pavement youre technique is off brah.

You gotta keep the impact on the balls of your feet so the impact doesnt reach the rest of your body.

>"but that doesnt work, i tried it!"
Youre calves are weak, then.

You build legs strength over time so you control the way your feet land when you stride.

What is a good running shoe for running in the snow? Trying to prepare for the winter.

They don't, but micro injures exist and I don't want to find out in 20 years that I fucked up my knees over something I read on the internet

You making sure to stretch well after your runs?

I don't think there is such a thing. At least nothing mass produced. Are you running on packed snow? Trail running shoes might work for that. Running through powder seems like a 1 way ticket to frostbite city in mesh-top runners (every running shoe I've ever had).

It takes a little bit of discipline, counterintuitively, to not beat the hell out of yourself every time you go out for a run. When you do it right (easy, conversational pace), your joints feel great and get tougher.

When you do go for faster paces, you do it with a strict plan in mind to get the most gains for the least amount of pain and effort. That's where intervals and tempo runs come into play.

Trying to PB every time you head out the door, or training at paces you can't handle is what kills your joints, not running by itself.

Proper form and running on good terrain

If you've got money to spend, a Salomon Speedcross is dry and comfy.
Sure, they might be a bit shifty with the colours, but they are good quality and have incredibly good grip and mileage

>Could only run 15 minutes today because my groin is fucked

Fuark, rested it a whole week and it's still giving me grief when going up hills.

Foam roller?

>and eat proper.

In what way?

Just finished my first marathon lads in 3h47

Eat clean, don't avoid carbs and fat, avoid soda, drink enough water, etc. Basically avoid meme diets.

or you could do your own research on running shoes and their lack of efficacy in preventing or treating injuries, their inability to reduce impact force, and their tendency to cause people to run with an inefficient and potentially injurious form. I tired running for years with modern high cost Brooks shoes. All that ever happened was pain and injury. Then I started running in cheap thin-soled + flexible "casual" shoes while also attempting to fix my FORM. Now I run faster, for greater distances, my flat feet are gone, and I don't have problems with shin-splints or knee pain. If you can't run on hard surfaces with little cushioning in your shoes, then you're not running correctly. If you need 200$ shoes with all kinds of fancy rubber shit to be able to run at all then your running form is fucked up and you need to learn how to run.

underrated post

I decided I'm going to enter a marathon next year. I broke my hand so I cant really life, so this seems like a good goal atm. I can't really train outside, though. I'll get terrible shin splints after a few weeks, so I'm training on a treadmill.


I'm just gonna wing it and go a bit longer and faster each time. Probably not very effective, but eh.

Got new running shoes yesterday. Will report back with a blogpost after running today if y'all want.

I've got a half marathon coming up on Sunday but I'm ill and haven't been able to run for almost 5 days now
I was planning on using these past 2 weeks to finalise my training and really push on so I can get used to running 13 miles without stopping to walk but this fucking cold has ruined my plans.
How fucked am I?

Are these department store shoes okay for casual (25k/week) running?

Post webm of you running

Don't know about those, buy I have a couple of adidas that I got for about 70 each on sale, and they are perfect. I do 25k-30k weekly and they are holding up pretty good since January. They are from the basic adidas running shoe line. Nothing fancy

This. I was running 4-6 miles almost everyday if not every other day. At the end of my first month i started getting shin splits. Took a month off from running and got some casual walking sketchers and was able to run. But i was out of it for so long i can barely do a mile now without feeling heavy and out of breathe. Help me bros

Whoa.. Very nice. I started seriously running only this summer and managed to get only to half a marathon. Running another 21 km afterwards, you have my respect.

>so I'm training on a treadmill

I went to run with a guy from the gym that did treadmill and he almost died, I don't know why, is not the same

I'm the guy you responded to. See, that's the thing that bothers me. When I asked about using simpler shoes it's because in my head it makes sense, it's somewhat similar to using a belt when you start lifting; yeah, using it might help you as a beginner, but if you instead focus on breathing properly and getting your form right you're making your core stronger in the long run.

It's just that, for me, running seems like such a basic activity and I would like to approach it that way (it's part of why I'm interested in starting). Whenever I see a person running in this stereotypical outfit, you know 200$ shoes, expensive Polar watch, wrapped in UA lycra, I can't stop thinking that maybe that's not necessary. Sure, it may be helpful to some, I'm not saying it's completely useless, but at least *some* part of it has to be just marketing and not real technological progress.

If you have some sources, I'd be happy to read them; I'm having trouble finding reputable info myself.

opinions on a running watch? can i usit with lifting?

The thing is that what barefoot runners are trying to convince us that you can not achieve proper form (or it will take you forever, or you'll constantly struggle with it) with cushioned shoes. The basis of this theory is that humans evolved to be Kalahari bushmen, so wearing Nike's is unnatural, hence bad for you. The thing is you don't have a Paleolithic style of life, and you walk on paved roads. Behind all this is a sort of ethics that considers that getting away from our former ways is bad because is "unnatural", which in itself is a value judgement, because it can also be said that we evolved to build paved roads and walk on them. See the post you are replying to, he assumes that because I recommended proper shoes I have shin pain or lack of proper form. In the end, its a moral stand for them, the same as most vegan or paleo advocators. BTW you don't need expensive gear, but you need proper shoes. Not 200 dollar shoes. Proper shoes

I just got my Garmin FR225 this morning. Haven't tested it yet, but it was certainly the best option around 200 €, I think. I wouldn't wear it at the gym, though, and I don't know if it even has any features that'd help there.

>38953890

buy Suunto

t. Finland

(honestly all the watch brands are pretty similar)

Is it ok for me to take the sock liners out and run? I have a low arch and when I try on shoes they're more comfortable without the liner.

bump

Try it and share what you learned with us

I guess I'm going to have to.

Shouldn't you be using special insoles?

Kinda new to the running thing
Have some questions for u running fags

>just ran for my 3rd or 4th, it was about 10km and I did 47minutes, is it good? (sprinted during the last 1.5km with high speed since i raced with my m8)
>how much do yall eat if you run alot, to maintain the muscle and fat mass?
>do I have to stop running this much if i want to build some muscle
>Is it okay running in adidas superstars, or will it fuck me up

>>just ran for my 3rd or 4th, it was about 10km and I did 47minutes, is it good? (sprinted during the last 1.5km with high speed since i raced with my m8)
Pretty good

>how much do yall eat if you run alot, to maintain the muscle and fat mass?
>do I have to stop running this much if i want to build some muscle
Sticky tier questions

>Is it okay running in adidas superstars, or will it fuck me up
Incoming JUST

I'm pretty new to this. Buying a different insole isn't a bad idea, I'll look into that.

thanks for responding lad, which cheap tier shoes you recommend since im really poor for the moment

As long as they are running shoes, and they feel comfortable, the cheapest you can find and that fit you well. You can find last year models on sale for next to nothing compared to the latest models. BUT, go to an actual store and try them first (and after that, look for them online and you might get an even better price). As for brands, I had bad experiences with nike, but that might be just me.

What's a good beginner treadmill running program to build speed and endurance?

Will do, ty

So I seem to be having a problem. I have hip pain in the back right above the actual hip bone. I walk and it hurts. I sit down and it hurts. I thought it might be a pinched sciatic nerve, but it's not.

Here's the kicker. If I put a knee brace on my left knee, everything stops and I feel like a million bucks.

What can I do to make this stop and not have to wear a knee brace? Is it all in my head?

Glute bridges after running helped me when I had a similar issue.

Will try it out, thank you.