>tfw bought roids excitedly after reading only good things but then read about the downsides a lot of people experienced and realized also I have plenty of natty gains to make and so I should see if that will be good for me before beginning
>tfw strongly reconsidering my choice but I already bought them
You know roids just allow you to skip a level or two. Leaving side effects aside, there are few situations where "steroids" are worth considering >Want to compete in bodybuilding >Want to break world records >Want to compete at the international/professional level in a sport >Are 35+ and natural T is down >Have lifted for 10-15 years and progress is nil And the last two are probably solved by getting TRT and increasing test to a normal level.
Liam Ward
>OutAlpha More like alfalfa facial hair.
Blake Allen
I had knowledge man but now when it comes down to it I'm strongly rethinking the decision.
I bought testosterone and dianabol and pct with ai.
Robert Miller
Don't use it bro.
Jaxon Rivera
>Don't use it bro.
But then it's a waste of money???
Alexander Carter
Nah, you bought character. You made character gains.
Robert Lewis
My experiences with gear:
>start blasting July 2014 >winter 2014 make friends with source >spring 2015 I am joocier sources are wild wild people drama >become hyper sexual >lady doesn't want to bang >winter 2015 I am big boy big 275 lbs >leave lady >smash current ex >spring 2016 >train for competition >6'5 215 lean striated fuck machine >smashing 6-7x a day 5x a week >ex is a slutty sex kitten >she's insane tren makes me insane life is a roller coaster >get into porn >making crazy money >crazy sex always >winter 2016 >am big gay pornstar dating 2 milfs have a sugar mama smash my ex weekly and am popular in the bdsm scene locally
Best choice I ever made don't do it if you don't make money with your body
Kevin Green
I don't know man. I'm so tempted I bought them already!!
But on the otherhand I wanna see how far I can go natty
Nathan Long
how'd you get into porn?
did you just walk into a job agency and say "i wanna fuck bitches on camera"?
Liam Gomez
>don't do it if you don't make money with your body
Why does everyone always say this?
>how'd you get into porn? >did you just walk into a job agency and say "i wanna fuck bitches on camera"?
If only you knew the kind of porn he does...
I wish I was joking
Parker Fisher
ive spent some time in /fraud/
he looks excellent in leather, by the way ; )
Jacob Allen
You don't think the turbo manlet looks huge, though? If you could make those gains naturally, would you still feel tempted?
James Morgan
I have an agent
Christian Moore
He does gay porn dude...
Ayden Flores
He's 6 inches shorter than me and I've already bought them.
That's why I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Ill have wasted a lot of money if I dont use it. But I got health concerns too
Hunter King
Which one is more important: health or money?
Jayden Hill
The money has been spent.
Your health hasn't.
Michael Stewart
I was excited for a long time, literally thought about and researched my first cycle for months. Now I'm just unsure of it all.
I just feel uneasy about injecting something like that gotten from lord knows where
Gabriel Thompson
Yo, I just started out as a model and am considering gear.
However, I am not allowed to balloon up or to become bigger, just have to be lean as fuck overall.
Do you know what type of roids I should use? It is not that I find it hard to maintain a lean body. Would just make it a lot easier if I have to worry less about my calories.
Jaxon Brown
Even if it takes longer, become huge like turbo manlet. You won't want roids then.
Ian Hughes
How do we know he's natty
Anthony Jones
Watch older videos and see how he progressed.
Ethan Sanchez
What's that trips porn name? I don't browse here enough to know
Aiden Rivera
Michelle Watson
Caleb Bell
You boight the ticket, now take the ride
Kevin Nelson
Scott Ambrose
Isaac Phillips
He obviously is. OP since you've failed to demonstrate the discipline or patience to make any real natty gains up to this point, it's HIGHLY unlikely that steroids will give you the results you're after. If you have no idea how to train hard, no idea how your body responds to certain movements or training styles, and have yet to even max out natty gains you will probably just use up the gear you've bought only to wind up with a less than impressive physique and no idea where to go from there.
Imagine the difference between working hard at a difficult job for a few years and having some assets and cash to show for it, or being some kind of petty criminal who steals and fucks people over for money but who is so small time he winds with probably the same financial gain but lots of enemies and a criminal record, damaged life etc. Roiding (for you) is more like the second option. You'll do alright, but nothing you couldn't have really achieved anyway.
Alexander Hall
I realize that now dude.
But now I have $100's hanging over my head. Maybe using it would be a good idea?
It's just a hundred bucks OP. You can get it back in a few days of working. Plus once you start using you cannot stop which in turn will cost even more money. If you stopped the you'll lose your gains AND all those investment in roids will be for nothing. Not to mention If you fucked up your cycle it's gonna cost even more money. Don't do it OP. You're clearly not ready yet.
Noah Green
It'll be a waste of money regardless because the benefits of steroids to someone who sucks at lifting and has failed to achieve a decent natty physique are far outweighed by the 'potential' risks because of the overwhelming possibility that you'll just wind up with what you could have achieved natty anyway, all of which will disappear when you come off because you suck at training.
Jason Williams
You're right...
But I got all I need.
Are you saying I should just write off the loss as if I got robbed or something and forget it?
Don't you keep most within natty limit???
Nolan Turner
Enjoy your bitch tits and hair loss
Angel Taylor
We're only trying to help you, dude.
What you're looking for is already within you.
Michael Williams
Man it just feels bad. It's several hundred dollars.
I waited for it for so long... I know sunk cost fallacy but darn it guys
Ian Garcia
>keep most within natty limit??? Some will. You won't.
Liam Stewart
Better to have gained and lost than never to have gained at all?
I don't know what to do......... it's such a waste of money and effort if I don't use it!
Look you're clearly looking for someone to tell you to do it.
I did a similar cycle when I wasn't at my natty limit. Dbol kickstart 30mg ED and test 500mg pw.
You'll get crazy gains especially in shoulder strength, my OHP basically leveled with my bench which was ~225lbs when I started the cycle.
It'll be tonnes of fun and you can see you're body change week by week. If you have trouble finding motivation going to the gym all that will likely change as you just have infinite energy and will want to spend all your time there.
At week 5 your apetite will skyrocket which makes eating and bulking loads of fun.
At the end you'll never want to come off because it makes lifting 10x more enjoyable. You may feel like you cheated but you likely won't give a fuck when you realise steroids are actually fun as fuck and enhance all aspects of your life.
I guarantee you won't do one cycle, you'll likely ditch the pct and just BnC indefinitely because they are really addictive.
Feel free to ask questions.
Nathaniel Cooper
I'm going nuts man
It's hundreds of dollars. I don't know to use it or not. On the one hand it might change me forever but on the other I'm a dyel who'll probably get gyno or something
Brayden Wright
Watch the video, mate. You'll feel better. Make a decision when you're calmer.
Alexander Hill
It's a waste anyway. Your shortlived roid gains will be subpar. You realistically won't even come close to your natty limit even after a cycle or two since your work ethic and discipline are nonexistent. Be a man and do what you want. Going and buying steroids as a beginner lifter before even making noob gains was incredibly stupid. Taking them would be even stupider.
Dominic Howard
I'm insanely DYEL.
Is it really a good idea
Oliver Ramirez
Look, dude, this is serious. If you have to ask, the answer is obviously no.
Jack Scott
I know it's stupid. But I've always thought about it and one day finally did it. I just don't know what to do now.
Rationally I understand it'd be best not to do it now, if ever.
But the temptation is there from the sunk cost and availability.
Colton Sanchez
A lot of decisions in life follow a similar pattern.
Austin Gonzalez
it's an opportunity I may never get again...
Liam Russell
I would say. Hold on to your shit, get 1/2/3/4 pl8 OHP/B/SQ/DL natty. Get your BF% to 10-12% then go crazy.
When I started I was 1/2/2/3, which is terrible but I always struggled with motivation before getting on. When I got on I never missed a workout and did 3 hours/day 6x a week.
Do whatever you want though, with same diet an training as what you did natty it'll roughly double your progress.
Jace Torres
Why? Just do it faggot. Do it right, and even if you do the one cycle you'll be happy with the gains.
Oliver Perry
That is unlikely. But it really doesn't matter in the end. I doubt you'll feel good about doing this, considering the mindset you've displayed.
When you're torn between conscience and temptation, conscience is right.
Adam Ross
Do small cycle of test, train for hypertrophy, get on that clenny clen clen and you're good to go m8
Daniel Miller
Stop being a faggot. Either do the roids or sell the roids. Lift hard either way fag hole
Luke Lopez
Also if you're actually dyel you'll fuck your tendons (too much strength without your tendons getting used to it), you need a solid base. So definitely don't go hard too early.
William Lewis
I guess you're right man.
Maybe it's a sign when you're too skeptical about something to not do it. $300 or whatever can be easily made back I guess. That's not what's important
Ayden Hughes
>Stop being a faggot. Either do the roids or sell the roids. Lift hard either way fag hole
Sell to who lol
No ones gonna buy them off some random guy
Jose Gomez
Yup. It's a good principle to live by in general. Most of our shit decisions are the result of ignoring this.
Charles Watson
Following the gut you mean?
Because what about anxiety when approaching a girl or something? Then it is a "shit decision" to follow your gut
Cooper Perry
Nope. Conscience.
Cooper Davis
I don't really feel conscience more than I feel like it's a risky and illogical choice