So that male birth control trial women keep bitching about was teste injections

Just wear a fucking rubber, not only does it protect against a fuck load of other shit just size yourself right and it isn't that big of a deal

It was testosterone undecanoate - read UNDECANOATE

Long lasting ester

Much slower release into the system.

So, its equivilent to injecting 100-200mg of testosterone a week, TRT dose, of cyp or enanthate, when adjusting for blood levels and the heavier weight of the longer ester

Have you ever fucked without a rubber? You should know you can't beat fucking raw. Literally never want to take your dick out

I ain't injecting shit. Fucking hate commie governments forcing us to give up our fingerprints and making us inject shit. Fucking leave us the fuck alone.

Go back to /x/ you dumb fuck. Women literally still have to fight in some instances to be allowed to take birth control, what in the ever loving fuck makes you think "da big brudda" is going to force you to take birth control?

>women want the man to provide the money
>women want the man to be able to cook
>women want the man to be an incredibly involved father

>women now want the man to take the birth control instead

Holy FUCK. Why are modern women so fucking lazy and shitty?

wait, i thought high test men were more potent and fertile?

what's the point of being a big manly testy dude if you can't pass on your genes?

If you are natty then there's no problem.
When you are enhanced, that's when problems arise.

Just Western women user

Nah, they don't really want you to take birth control. This way they can "forget" to take it and fuck you in the ass with child support.
This is just another excuse to bitch.

Taking artificial test causes your body to produce less natural test, which is why roiders have tiny balls

>excuse to bitch
That's really what this seemed like to me. There are just so many women who are looking for any excuse to bash men

Feminism gave them a victim complex so now they feel entitled to have everything handed to them because >muh patriarchy

I think men should just get vasectomies. Do you really, honestly want children? No. No you don't. They steal gains and are disgusting. Vasectomies are more reliable than any other birth control, even a woman getting her tubes tied can come undone inside and heal itself.
If you don't want children it's stupid to continue being fertile when you could accidentally get locked into paying child support for years.

This birth control trial was less like the birth control pill and more like the female birth control shot, which has about the same occurrence of mood disorders, it's the main reason women stop using it. It also causes about a 5% increase in stroke risk for some reason, as well as the same basic symptoms of acne, muscle aches, lactation, etc.

The percent of women who quit the birth control shot is about the same percentage of men who quit the study or reported it wasn't worth it. I honestly don't know why they are still using it, it's horrible. The pill is time-released and way less horrible. They should design the male birth control more like the pill and less like the depo shot.

what the fuck?

legal birth control is literally insane amount of roids?

rich piano is gonna get dwarfed in the future

what a time to be alive

What the fuck? Are you this much of a beta /pol/ redditard to think men being able to have a choice on whether they want to have babies is somehow an evil plot crafted by TEH EVUL FEMINISM?

You're literally being given the choice to cum inside as many girls without getting them pregnant (if it goes well) and you go and jump like the huge mongoloid you are and scream MUH SJWs. Might as well cut your dick off and post on /r/theredMGTOW.

If anything,

Right? Men are so offended by everything these days "boo hoo feminism is why I can't get laid" etc.

Like get over it, stop being triggered all the time. Not everything is a feminist conspiracy.

too many white people

Wrong. It was test and progesterone injections. Male anatomy isn't meant to maintain high levels of progesterone.

Almost no one would get serious side effects from the amount of testoaterone adminsterd in this study. A large amount of side effecta expiriemced by roiders is from estrogen, as its elevated with excess androgens. This study litterally adminaterd progesterone at physiological dosages. no wonder the dudes got fucked up.
men can handle massive amount of testosterone
we can not handle estrogen.

>it is worse to get man tits than suffering a heart attack

>men can handle massive amount of test

no they cant you fuckign idiot

But wouldn't that be a lot of risk of shutting you down permanently?

Yeah, that's the point.

There is already an easily reversible injection that can be done in an afternoon.

This is people trying to market legal steroids as a way to sterilize...I mean as a safe birth control injection for men.

See steroids CANT be sold normally so the way they are going to get around that is by making a time released form of them to sell to people. They are using the known side effect that it will temporarily sterilize people(with the occasional permanent sterilization which is a good thing to certain groups, and permanent loss of normal or even any natural testosterone production) to sell it.

That's it.

The same way they are trying to create a time released DNP to sell on the market.

steroids based birth control will never become legal though

You are so fucking stupid its unbelievable dont ever post about gear again you natty fat shit

>gram of test
>its a long ester so its only 1/10th as effective as prop guys

lol fuck off. Feminism is why my facebook feed was full of women saying that men are just assholes because something like 15% of the men in the study decided they didn't want a drug that was making guys permanently sterile and had a guy kill himself, and had side effects like 30x more common than the ones in female birth control.
But go back to thinking feminism is some magical movement that actually gives a shit about men's health and hasn't spent the past few days bashing men over this study
>usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/11/01/male-birth-control-study-nixed-after-men-cant-handle-side-effects-women-face-daily/93088124/
>theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/11/the-different-stakes-of-male-and-female-birth-control/506120/
>distractify.com/sex-relationships/2016/10/31/birth-control-wambulance
>someecards.com/life/health/men-male-birth-control-study-science-side-effects/
>independent.co.uk/voices/male-contraceptive-injection-successful-trial-halted-a7384601.html
I'm going out on a limb and assuming neither of you use Facebook because every fucking feminist I'm friends with has been plastering my newsfeed with those articles the last few days

....what's wrong? You didn't quote anything what are you saying is wrong? The study itself says they were administered
>Intramuscular injections of 200-mg norethisterone enanthate combined with 1000-mg testosterone undecanoate, administered every 8 weeks
is that what you're saying is wrong?

I'm wondering that too, I just can't see the government giving the OK on this.

yeah, we need more darkies. because the dark countries are always so much better off...

1 gram releasing over an 8 week period

1 gram/8weeks= 125mg/week

that's some black and white thinking right there.

isnt 125mg/week a really low dose? like below natty?

lol were you just making a joke or srs? because i like that pun. i was just fuckin with them for being racist

You fucking mong

A gram of test. Every 8 weeks. Try taking 200mg of test suspension every 12 hours and see where that gets you.

That's a misconception because TRT doses (a pseudo-medicine aimed at rich old men and bodybuilders) is about 250mg/week. In reality, the body itself produces less than 50.

so even young men at trt doses will make better gains?

Yes

Holy shit what kind of retarded protocol is that. Test fluctuations of 500%

Study doesn't say anything about estrogen control either.

I would've gone insane too.

Why didn't they go with 125mg deca every 7 days.

This.

Generally for TRT 100 is plenty. Some guys feel better at like 125, but that will top out most guys at the very top of the natty range, and keep them there 24/7.

That is like 18 year old Chad with a girls legs spread open ready to fuck, right after winning a game kind of natty high peak test, that will only stay that high for like an hour.

Natural test production goes up and down throughout the day, so a guy might be 800ng/dl in the morning, and 350ng/dl in the evening, and it might shoot back up to 600 right before sex, maybe 700, and then back down to 320. Its not consistently high.

and 125mg a week will keep most guys top end of normal high 24/7 365 days a year, and like 1200ish on a 300-1200 range.

that is factoring in that cypionate and enanthate, 30% of the hormone is ester weight, so at 100mg, they are only getting 70mg of actual testosterone, spread over 7 days.

125mg cyp = 87.5mg testosterone, over seven days is 12.5, and most nattiest make 5-7mg daily.... so yeah TRT need not ussually exceed 125mg cyp or enth weekly.

Now, Nebido or Testosterone undecanoate, with its 8 week half life.

That works out to roughly 125mg a week, but the ester is 40% of its weight (heavier than cyp or enanthate), so that's actually roughly 75mg of testosterone a week, and again, should be just enough to top most guys off at the upper end of normal range.

Go put nails in your balls

can you explain the numbers in this image to me?

mean 1000mg Testosterone undecanoate 1x = 125mg a week for 8 weeks, but is in reality 75mg weekly AFTER subtracting the ester weight

Sauce for that picture?

Esters like Undecanoate don't release in an up&down pattern like that. Its just a steady state slow release.

I've never heard of a single steroid compound peaking and vallying like that with multiple peaks and valleys, unless its a multi ester product like sustanon, with each ester having its own peak and valley at different times.

read

Long esters are dogshit. I'd rather kill myself too than put up with that nonsense. Retarded feminists.

>was in a relationship where I fucked raw all the time
>tell my friends they're fucking retarded for not wrapping it up even if a girl says they're on birth control
>break up with gf
>first hookup
>"are you on birth control?"
>"yes"
>jam my dick in raw
I guess I understand now

It was female birth control with test to negate the side effects of the female hormone.

Depo-provera to prevent spermatogenesis with test to provide hormonal support.

>Now, Nebido or Testosterone undecanoate, with its 8 week half life.
>That works out to roughly 125mg a week, but the ester is 40% of its weight (heavier than cyp or enanthate), so that's actually roughly 75mg of testosterone a week, and again, should be just enough to top most guys off at the upper end of normal range.

If the half life was 8 weeks, then it wouldn't work out to be 125mg per week.

Half life for test undecanoate is approximately 20days from Google. That means by each injection time there is still approximately 180mg of test undec in the bloodstream from the injection 8 weeks prior.

Right after the 24th week 1 gram injection there will be approximately 1500mg of test undec in the bloodstream.

I don't understand what efficacy phase means and if they continued injections in this Tom to the 56week mark, but the test undec accumulation would eventually plateau. I haven't worked out the level yet though.

Either way, 1500mg of test on the bloodstream is not gonna be pleasant.

Efficacy stage is working out whether the treatment works. As opposed to testing for side effects.

>Cue feminists on Facebook and elsewhere bitching about how men are wimps and selfish jerks etc. for making women put up with all these horrible side effects
>making women put up with
Literally no one MAKES women put up with birth control unless it's for legitimate health reasons like treating endometriosis (even then, you're not FORCED to take it).

I posted that picture, it shows the daily compound release of 1000mg testosterone undecanoate when administered every 8 weeks.

>Veeky Forumsbros come THISFUCKINGCLOSE
to having a totally socially acceptable form of test supplement
>it could even have been subsidized, thanks to modern society's attitude towards encouraging safe sex
>low-T turbo-numale guinea pigs unable to handle their own briefly-reawakened manhood ruin it for everyone else

How does it feel to be part of the problem, OP?

Dude If you would know anything about steroids and testosterone you wouldn't want what they have tried in this study.

thats not how it works retard. most gets released in the first half of the period

The fuck are you on about?

i keep telling people:

steroids wreck your hpa axis. do roids once, and you are on test for life. pin heads wont admit this cos it emasculates them.

Why wouldnt you go then for enanthate or cypionate for weekly injections. I inject myself 2 times/week with enanthate because your levels flucuate less so you hold less water etc.

Nah, this isn't true. I ran a single halfass cycle of test/tren a few years ago for like 6 weeks and never touched a roid again. That said, the decision to stop was a really tough one to make, and I took some time off lifting afterwards to reevaluate my goals. I can see why people say "there's no such thing as one cycle" but to say you're fucked for life isn't correct in my case at least.

Ever tried getting one while not being ridiculously old?

Dosen't deca cause massive impotence? Hence 'deca dick'

Yes. And that's with other gear involved

Deca without test? All the Viagra in the world couldn't help you.

Problem is I need to get as many hightest sons as I can to help offset the numales and cancer*

*women

As somebody who does not know anything about steroids and testosterone why wouldn't I want it? Is it the sides they're reporting? Are those worse than what you'd expect from other steroid cycles? Or is the stuff in the study just not as effective?

In 1960 the US was 85% white.

Non-hispanice whites are now 61% of the population.
If you count illegals, whites are only about 58% of the population and will probably be 50% in ten years.

I feel bad for you guys.
But it does feel good to know we'll be the majority demographic in 25 years, 30 tops.