Grappling Lessons or Lifting?

>be me
>have qt 6' big4u gf
>she won't call me strong
>ask why
>"I'll only admit a guy is strong if he can physically restrain me without aid or heavy breathing"


So how do I get to that point?

My friends tell me I should take up Judo or wrestling classes, since I'm already pretty strong. But I don't know. She wrestled for four years in highschool, and I'm not sure I'd be able to out-skill her without as much time invested. So I think it might be quicker to just lift harder. Then again, I've only been progressing at 5lbs/mo on most of my lifts, so I'm worried that it'll take years before I get to that point.

Would it help if I started concentrating on certain muscle groups? Are there muscles that are exceptionally important for groundwork?

It really bothers me that she won't acknowledge that I'm strong.

That's rough, bud. I know how ya feel.

Maybe try Krav maga? I know it's memey, but it's got some easy to learn, highly useful groundwork in it. Probably go for a mix of both gains though.

>highly useful moves
Like what?

When I google Krav Maga, I just find a bunch of toned manlets hitting things. No groundwork.

Find a strong black bull to dominate her while you watch like the cuck you are.

What the fuck is it with Veeky Forums and interracial cuck porn?

>Krav Maga
>for nonviolently subduing your gf in a play-wrestle
you're retarded.

>Veeky Forums
>not all of Veeky Forums

It does look kind of extreme. So I take it there's nothing to learn of sportsmanlike groundwork from Krav Maga?

So what should I learn? People seem to be telling me to do a combination approach.

how weak r u if you cant outstrength a girl hasbeen high school wrestler?
is she seriously +200lbs strong as fuck fatty or are you just weak?

if you can outstrength her and shes being bitchy about how it should have been easier for you just show your dominance by having her on hold and tickling her or alternatively hold her from her hair, push her face on the bed and fuck her

She's 170 pounds with B cups and a lean body, the last I saw her step on a scale. Doesn't look like she's gained weight since then.

It's not that I can't overpower her, because I can. It's just that I can't overpower her with ease, and she sometimes beats me when we wrestle.

Last time I lost, I lost to a triangle choke, which I didn't even know was a thing until after I passed out.

She considers tickling and hair pulling to be cheating, just like it'd be cheating if she iron palmed my ballsack.

To be honest, you'd probably lose to her with some regularity too, were you to wrestle her. She's a big girl for you.

>I'd lose too

KYS

grappling, bjj has a proven track record. id advise that

>Maybe try Krav maga? I know it's memey, but it's got some easy to learn, highly useful groundwork in it. Probably go for a mix of both gains though.

This kike meme has to stop

>Trains Krav Maga to be able to physically restrain gf
>Breaks her jaw and dislocates her shoulder

desu my gf weighs the same and i have +50lbs on her, and i can just ohp her from armpits like one would do to a baby

just grip her wrists and hold tight, when she resists grip tighter. my gf always goes full spastic epilepsy mode and then complains how it hurts when i grip too tight or she manages to hit herself but fuck her ayy

implying anything krav teaches actually works yet theres no evidence for it

Introduce me to your gf and after that you can kill yourself fucking pussy. Learn wrestling, you are going to love it. Judo sucks, she will kick your ass, or learn some bjj, with some experience she will freakout and give the back, former wrestler here.

lol bruh I'ma help you out cuz u family.

walk up to her and throw your drink in her face
say "You're not gonna do shit about it, bitch."
steal that nigga in the face with the quickness
knees on her thighs, pin down her arms, and spit on her face
get up, pushing your knee off her stomach
drop a couple dollas on the ground
say "Clean yoself up nigga"


ur problem has just been solved my man

>without heavy breathing

Good fucking luck. Unless you're a world-class fighter you're going to be winded really quick. Fighting/wrestling is exhausting

Judoka that cross trains bjj checking in. I agree with you doing judo because wrestling is for people in high school and her footwork will wreck you if you try bjj.
You can train judo with people your age and you will be taught footwork and positions that will keep her from wrecking you.

Kek, Judo had to change their rules because wrestlers and bjj guys were joining tournaments and rape them. Dont listen to this grab shirts fag, Judo is the tkd of grappling now.

So two hard votes for BJJ. Time to learn BBJ, then!

And yeah, I do notice that she tries really hard to get onto her belly and spread out like a frog or something. She's stopped doing that of late, though, because when she does that, I just give her that rear choke, and she's not strong enough to break free.

Is it really that lofty a goal? I mean, I'm way stronger than her. She's just crafty, is all. I honestly think now reading through this thread that if I get a bit of know-how, she'll be tapping out on the regular.

Why would her footwork wreck me if I trained BJJ? Why would we even be on our feet? These wrestling matches usually start when I'm at my computer desk, at the dinner table, or on the living room couch. Never from a standing position.

So BJJ is good versus wrestling then?

Fuck man. Why can't life be more like rock paper scissors.

AYYY yo I ain't that bitch made beein pushy hwhiped, but yo advice realle help me out anyway. Now I got gots some hoes fo dayz nigga.

>So BJJ is good versus wrestling then?
It could go both ways, I had fought some bjj guys (talking about bjj as base or only training bjj) that freak out when I slam them since bjj is now more ground work, but since neither you or your gf are going to do that, I think bjj could give you an advantage. Also because bjj helps you to keep your energy, wrestling is usually more explosive.

Why wouldn't I throw her other around? It's one of the advantages I have on her because I'm bigger than her.

I guess I'll be starting BJJ then though.

just went to da club and did dis sheit

>now i got hoes for days

thanks familia

Im talking about slamming someone, you mention that you guys fight in the floor so, I dont think that you guys slam each other. Yeah, bjj is what you need.

I have a mat in my living room, because we enjoy the ability to set up a stripper pole on a whim and wrestle without fear of tearing up the floor.

Also it's handy for morning stretches and works as a makeshift bed.

But yeah. I'm going to start attending tomorrow with the local college. (Why the fuck are lessons so expensive everywhere else?)

grapple.

if you untrained you get fucked up.

plus unlike striking, you can keep your gains.

krav maga is meme tier.
literally one step above kung fu, maybe not even that

just punch her a few times in the solar plexus and choke her until she passes out.

>2016 +11/12
>thinking somebody unskilled can beat somebody with some skill

I'm not sure she'd be okay with that. Hell, I'm not even sure I'd be okay with that. I mean, wrestling can be pretty painful, but at least it won't make her parents think I'm a woman beater.

Krav Maga courses usually don't explain much theory and basics. They teach you an ultra-agressive attitude and a few dirty tricks that are very unlikely to work on someone who is trained properly. Krav Maga is not a martial art or a fighting sport, it's a self-defence system designed to fuck up/deter violent street thugs and run away alive and quickly.

Btw if that matters so much to you I'd take some basis in some sort of grappling (Judo/BJJ) and get bigger. You are not going to catch up to her in technique probably but if you have some basics in technique an advantage of sheer strength becomes too much after a certain point. But this is a long and expensive process. Is this really so important?

Also, have you tried it yet? How big are you? Also, if you find her pretty feel really lucky about her, this is the sort of shit I'd be the happiest for. Although I doubt I'd find many women who are not pros and I couldn't press them on the ground if I tired really hard.

It depends what rules you're playing by, but in real life BJJ wrecks wrestling, except for the takedowns. If you just want to choke her out or put her in an armbar or something BJJ should be your choice.

>except for the takedowns
>in real life everybody starts on their feet

better yet

>thinking that grappling works "in real life"

if you want to beat people learn striking. if shit isnt in your favour at least you can run away as opposed to getting your head stomped in by a pack of niggers.