Can a beta become alpha?

or is he fucked the moment he is born?

Are you illiterate?

Betas are the second in command.

Anyone has a chance to become the Alpha at any point. That's why the Beta position exists, many Alphas come from the Beta position

It's the Omegas that you are refering to. The weakest position.

Betas are potential Alphas.

would you have considered zyzz an omega at his lowest point?

Roids, money and surgery will get a beta there.

Aren't alpha and betas pack mentality? You need a squad or goal for either position.

With guys I don't see this as much but with chicks? I can always spot the mother hen of the group. The others tend to act like mindless drones.

Zyzz always had friends or at least associates

If zyzz had no friends and was a loner i'd consider him an Omega or whatever.

Here is my question, can an loner be an alpha or does an alpha seriously need beta followers? I would suspect that hanging around betas the whole time would eventually dumb an alpha down to their level until he breaks away from those beneath him.

A loner can be Alpha if he's looked upon as a leader. If people want to be around him but he's able to have the choice of engaging with them or not.

An omega has no choice. No privileges.

An Alpha can choose to be alone, an Omega is alone by default.

A real alpha probably doesn't care bout shit like "leading the pack" and whatnot. He just wants to do his own thing and do it well. He will attract other alpha males and befriend them while voluntarily bringing up any betas he associates with.

This makes sense to me. Thanks!

As long as you keep using the words beta and alpha unironically you can't.

>he thinks male hierarchy doesn't exist

Dan Bilzerian isn't Alpha, he's just rich

What happens if a physically unattractive guy starts behaving like an overconfident slayer?

he dies

Why?

65% of the time he's just a loser who talks and acts big

30% of the time he is actually significantly more successful with women and other people in general, but his looks still hold him back.

5% of the time you get a kratos

>m'lady

tfw inbetween normie and chad

you get PUA clowns

Do PUA techniques even work? If not why would they have such a great following?

some PUA bullshit works, but most of the time its pseudo-science communism on paper only works tier shit.

there's a lot of desperate nerds

But is it extremely painful?

yeah im deffo between normie and chad

i am

>7 maybe 8/10 face
>6'3''
>charisma level 7/10 (make friends at the drop of a hat)
>make the best money out all my friends (£910 a week at age 25)
>gain muscle easily, pretty decent T although my sex drive fluctuates considerably

cons
>limited sexual exeriences fucked 3 girls in my entire life
>i get erectile dysfunction because i am anxious before sex (i always have a viagra in my wallet)
>Im not that attracted to women, pussys generally disgust me, i can only say i am really red blooded when its a supperior high test fertile women infront of me but it does happen.

So where do guys like any famous rockstar who fucks like 500 women but isn't so good looking fit?

True alpha's aren't born.

They're made.

slayer tier, although its a bit of a false ecconomy because a lot of them dont have the genetics for being a slayer

I'm pretty sure I did m8. Went from kinda chubby no muscle nerdy ginger fro high school/part of college kid that was too afraid of rejection to ask her girls out or make moves to athletic/otter that doesn't give a fuck. Still nerdy as shit but I go after what I want regardless of what happens. Veeky Forums goes on about the alpha/beta thing but it really comes down to embracing yourself as a man instead of being a bitch. Definitely still have weakness inside of me but you gotta fake it til you make it.

So that chart's fucking bullshit then

i relate to your story, have sexual experience with 5 women, only went to full penetration with 2 since huge anxiety always made me lose boners. 6/10 face 5ft10 bulky physique, but have tons of friends because have funny stories and am fun to be hang around with, problem is absolutely shit at picking up women, seeing signals, or making moves.

also i hate the whole alpha/beta typology, mostly 18 19 year olds who use those terms and it literally ALWAYS relates because they fucked some moonpig and feel ''alpha'' because of that.

The golden bits are life changing. Not only helping to acquire hot chicks for sec or relationship. Also for all aspects in life where people must feel good with you, find you competent, friendly, a leader etc.

Hard part is to find the golden stuff from those 90% quackery.

all u niggas need to read this

tfw when Chad, maybe even Slayer
>not even meming :^)

>using pronouns designed for pack animals to describe complex non-hierarchical social creatures like humans

There's really no hope for you fucktards, is there?

started out as genetic trash at 15, was definitely full fledged incel during senior year of high school. Now i feel like i'm inbetween incel and normie since i've got a job. Got a girlfriend got laid (now single) now looking to get another one. I'm 18 though, is this good progress? I have a feeling it would take me only 2-3 years to be a full blown chad, becoming top tier in maybe 4-5 years.

No shit. It was made by some /r9k/ faggot.

>can an loner be an alpha or does an alpha seriously need beta followers
An alpha is, by definition, a leader. It's not about the muscles.

it's mostly fuckery 2bh. You have to be kind of a total complete loser to take that shit seriously. I know because i started out doing pua stuff as a total complete loser. Once social ramifications start coming into play, your own self perception becomes a factor in your behaviour and you become SELF AWARE, it's hard to walk around being a clown

You want to know what really makes you a 'beta', kid? ASKING ABOUT AND WORRYING ABOUT BEING A GODDAMNED 'BETA'.

Just fucking LIVE YOUR LIFE AND FORGET ALL THIS FUCKING SHIT, KID, IT'S ALL A GODDAMNED MEME. You'll drive yourself to the insane asylum over it. JUST KNOCK IT OFF.

I haven't been allowed to live life by my looks

I'm not even shitting you Chad

Well then I guess you're going to be an Eternal Victim and go through life making excuses about why you can't do this-and-that and never get anywhere. Maybe you should just kill yourself now and avoid a life of disappointment and failure.

>brb genetic trash

no actually I'm getting surgery and am considering all kinds of steroids so I can be allowed to live but thanks

>getting surgery and am considering all kinds of steroids
So you're a two-digit IQ loser who has given up on the idea of actually being a man and has decided to love the cock instead?

Just kill yourself. It's better for everyone if you do.

>IQ memer
>Gay as an insult

Food for thought...

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>Waah, I'm a BETA, please kind sirs give me the Key to being ALPHA
Is this you? If it is, then you will never be 'alpha' because you're not making your own way through life, you're expecting someone to hand everything to you. That's not 'being a leader' that's 'being a follower'. People that live like this never amount to much of anything because they never take life by the horns and do what they must to get what they want out of it.

There is no such thing as 'beta' or 'alpha'. It's a term the PUA community uses to categorize people into the beta box, and then exploit them for money.

>you see there's leaders and there's followers
>but I'd rather be a dick than a swallower
t. Kanye '2020' West

>autists made this and actually believe this

kekeroo

money + success >> everything.

>die at 21 from a heart attack

his whole argument is nullified by that fact

That is a good outlook on life

What are these golden bits.

>chestbrahs still stuck in vanilla wow trying to live in the past and is forever left behind

Same reason why companies like GNC will sell you weight loss pills

Someone has too much time on there hands to make this. Why not do something more productive with your time?

/r9k/ needs to be nuked

cant even imagine what kind of faggot would sit down and make this

I bet his ex is laughing now kek

I don't consider this guy an alpha in any sense of the word.

He has done nothing except inherit, play poker poorly and surround himself with money-hungry whores.

>Here is my question, can an loner be an alpha or does an alpha seriously need beta followers?
That's called a sigma. It's a man that has every quality an alpha has but doesn't want to lead but can assume that role if necessary. Obviously a lot of betas and omegas falsely think they're actually sigmas because they don't have followers.