Why won't MasT talk to us about his plans of competing and what he is working on to get comp ready?
MasT I'm very curious about this as well and you dodged the question.
You're our champ and we want to see you on the stage.
Can't wait to see your final form on growth hormone. Should be world class.
What do you feel is lagging? What do you feel is overdevolped? How long before you hop on growth hormone?
I know you said you have gains to be made on steroids and I agree. But I'm equally excited to see what you do with your body as I am what I can do with mine, (not that they are comparable)
Can anyone help me here? I've started doing research on the subject, but it's been hard as fuck to find good scientific articles and studies.
The first step would be to choose one steroid and, based on that, plan the cycle and what to stack with it, right? If so, how do I do that?
I decided to do it based on muscle memory. Just one cycle, maybe cruising for another then a proper pct to keep the muscle I get. Not planning at all to go past that. Based on that I'm considering tren. Is there a flaw in that logic?
Liam Cruz
was made first it's also a better OP because it's not some retard hijacking the OP to make a real post sucking masT's dick
abandon this thread
Elijah Brown
>p-please use my thread autism
Josiah Anderson
Yes. There is a huge flaw. Tren is absolutly unsuitable for a first cycle.
Your first cycle should be a small dose of Test E, not exceeding 500mg
Tren is some heavy heavy shit and the mental sides are extreme, depending on the person.
Personally, I had the mental sides of Tren in abundance before I even hopped on gear. So for the one cycle I used Tren, I decided never to use it again because I was a danger to myself and others.
The 'muscle memory' you are speaking of, TEst E will provide for you.
Owen Long
that wasn't me retard i actually like masT
Isaac Cooper
in the bin with it
this is the OFFICIAL fraud thread.
for proof await the toddler posts by masT, Grandpa making everyone WOKE AS FUCK, jerry trying to convince everyone he isn't gay and ESTP finally defending her degenerate ways.
wait for it
Nathan Perry
>not exceeding 500mg How do you not just jam'a'gram for them easy gains? C'mon now.
Joseph Barnes
Isn't that too conservative? I mean... It's a one time thing, I wanted to do it properly.
I mean, sides are extreme, but for what I can see, so are the gains, no?
Samuel Lopez
>tfw dnp turning everything yellow my piss is yellow, my cum is yellow, my sweat is yellow and my ear wax is yellow.
Dylan Flores
yes, this is normal.
careful though, it stains a lot. and permanently.
Jackson Torres
>jam'a'gram kek
Jace Butler
Another thing, if you can help me. About the efficiency of PCT stuff, is there a considerable difference? Like... is it worth to spend more on any of them?
What about starting with test e, then cruising to decide what to go for next? Is that a bad idea?
Lincoln Price
>so are the gains
Tren is widely overused. Trens real strength is that it allows you to hit that super low dry 'shrink wrapped' look.
Tren is best used before comps. Before you get on the stage.
The reason posters here use it so frequently is because they crave the mental sides of tren. Not because it's a good compound for them and their goals, or because it's safe.
Furthermore- Speaking of muscle memory. Tren will give you brain memory. Tren use, even one time, permently changed how my brain functioned.
Tren is for life man.
Be aware that tren makes you paranoid, aggressive, narcissistic, and gives you delusions of grandeur .
You won't trust anyone and you will want to murder every man you see so you can rape every female you see uncontested.
Everyone talks up Tren, but depending on the person, it can be very, very harmful.
Obviously I am not as MENTALLY ILL since I got off the tren, but I am not the same as before I ever took it.
>isn't that conversvative.
No. 250mg is conservative. This is your endocrine system we are talking about here, not a science experiment.
Don't be an idiot
Brayden Bennett
Tren is good for the mentality and most importantly the gains. Tren is great just very unhealthy
Asher Barnes
this guy is a natty cuck
never used any aas in his life, especially not tren
I guarantee it
Carson Williams
agree with some things, well put.
Justin Turner
most of what he said is true, especially regarding the mental sides, so who cares even if he is?
it permanently changed me as well, mentally.
i don't agree that it should only be used to get "dry" or whatever though, the gains are beyond any other compound by far
Nathaniel Campbell
>jam'a'gram
John Phillips
permenantly how?????? detail explain pls
Benjamin Sanchez
most of what he said is overblown r/steroids typical memery
tren is the most memed compound on the internet, by far. this guy got tricked by the memes. so did you, most likely.
Angel Anderson
MasT is extremely insecure.
He won't compete because as soon as he does, we will figure out his true identity.
And he absolutely does not want that to happen.
Thus, he will no compete.
Crazy that he is willing to spend loads of money and sacrifice is health for drugs for literally nothing other than to shitpost on an anime forum to a couple hundred random guys about how he is a god.
It's honestly pathetic
Julian Thomas
>incoming toddler response
THE PROPHECY WAS TRUE
Blake Evans
Why would you guarantee stuff you can't prove? That doesn't do well for your credibility
Like any compound you have to weigh the risk and the reward.
Part of what I was alluding too is that it makes little sense to take such a nasty compound, nasty for your mental state, nasty for your health unless you are competing. And even then, use it to reach a comp ready state.
>b-but you took it and you're no where near comp ready you dyel bitch
Everyone makes mistakes. Does not mean I want others to make them.
>do as I say not as I do
Kevin Martin
post a pic of any kind of gear you have laying around at home
anything, a vial, a box of oral, hell even anciliaries
you won't, because you're a memeing natty cuck
Anthony Thompson
>anons credibility
Henry Torres
Alright. Thanks.
You guys are probably right. Test will likely be enough for me, and even if it isn't I can just cruise and blast again before closing it up with PCT, right?
have you even fucking used it? it's not a meme retard, you are probably just too much of a pussy to use such a "harsh" and "dangerous" compound
i am keeping a lot of the mental boosts you get during tren, even after tren use, and it's been ~2-3 months since I last came off
Luis Russell
WHAT FUCKING MENTAL BOOSTS/PERMANENT CHANGES COME FROM TREN SOMEONE ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony Cooper
I have actually used it unlike you and that other retard, which is why I can tell you you are typical retarded internet posters about tren.
>omg tren made me want to rape every girl around me and beat every guy into a pulp and I became a COOL ALPHA CHAD BADASS who doesn't give a fuck about anyone >also pheromones brah, banging 3 different 10/10s a day
no
Kayden Walker
> "boosts"
You spelled side effects wrong.
James Davis
just google tren mental effects
you keep them permanently when coming off, but they are much more intense while on
David Russell
you couldn't have avoided the question harder without leaving the country
what permenant changes occur on/after tren use? how are they a boost?
Tyler Harris
>cant answer a question about what its like to actually be ON tren >claims to have done tren
such a natty meme cuckold
Daniel Sanders
google. tren. mental. effects.
maybe you're just naturally a little bitch and not even tren can save you
Samuel Cook
I will extend this post to also
fuck me I hate neo-/fraud/
Samuel Brooks
>has to tell others to google the same stuff he read in order to meme this thread up >can't grasp he is being tested to check if he has ever done the actual substance
You've just BTFO yourself.
Congratulations.
Luke Moore
when did /fraud/ get invaded by all these natties pretending to roid offering advice? what is cool about pretending to roid? what the fuck happened to this general?
Jayden Myers
ok i tasted it a few times and it tastes like pepper
i already get irritated at stupid shit while off tren. while on it i get all consuming urges to beat the shit out of anyone that pisses me off. one time a bee flew in my face and i tried to punch it because it pissed me off so bad.
it gives me bad lower abdominal bloat stemming from digestion issues, gives me acid reflux, didnt really get night sweats too bad
forearms would get pumped even just by clenching my fists a few times
Lucas Ward
>bad lower abdominal bloat as in my lower abdominal area sticks out more, not water retention
get fucked
Gavin Bell
REMINDER: ========= Real men don't use steroids.
Christopher Roberts
>just regurgitating things he has googled >cant produce a single shred of evidence
sure thing there faggot
Gavin Lopez
...
Sebastian Lopez
Real men fuvk traps
Grayson Butler
REMINDER: ========== Real men don't get worked up over what other guys do that has no effect on their own lives.
Unless... you feel inferior?
Isaac Lopez
alright now im just being trolled
kill urself
Kayden Morales
still standing
neo-/fraud/ shitposting scum
Oliver Torres
there is nothing gay about liking traps. if you (like me) are attracted to the feminine features, it is completely heterosexual. yes, they have penises, but who doesnt? you can relate to what they are feeling better when they masturbate because you can do it the same way, thus, its more enjoyable to watch. a lot of people think theyre men in makeup and wigs, but they're not, theyre women with penises and the perfect feminine features that i am attracted to. obviously no one that likes traps is not turned on by the actual penis, but what is around it.
Ryan Rodriguez
...
Lucas Peterson
>but who doesnt
Got me good, top kek
William Parker
>yes, they have penises, but who doesnt? lmao
Josiah Young
>damage controlling with "trolling" because he KNOWS he has NO EVIDENCE of him ever doing tren
you are full of shit and you know it, fuck off faggot wannabe
Sebastian Taylor
cant tell if this guy is an autistic angsty natty or what
Nicholas Bailey
i'm doing PSMF and 500 dnp but i am seeing 0 results, wtf is this? shouldn't i be at like a 2500-3000 deficit? beyond the initial water drop I am barely losing anything at all
Colton Morgan
I got another question about dosing. Say 250mg/week is a conservative and 500mg is the standard dosage. How do I compare that to higher dosages? Are there any decent studies comparing them?
Camden Gray
compare them in regards to what
Owen Sanders
post more
Camden Kelly
Risk/reward
Jack Powell
40 minutes later, original guy ran away, 2nd guy is conveniently ignoring the posts
just as expected.
call out retarded posters when they make retarded posts, don't let natties get away with shitting up our general.
good night.
James Jones
>digging your hole deeper
You know what would be easier than arguing with a "troll"?
Producing one scrap of evidence, a needle, a vial, literally anything.
The more you talk the more its obvious you have no experience.
:)
Joseph Baker
That's a real girl, this isn't
Nicholas Wilson
>First steroid
First steroid is test, because you should at least have a low test dose if using any other steroids.
Unless you're going to use trest, that you use without test and without other aromatising steroids.
500mg test E isn't a small dose, but a good recommended dose when using test on it's own.
I'm the same as before Tren, Tren didn't give me mental sides desu, just some sweats, and ridiculous libido that was far too distracting. And the fucking pip.
If you want a more powerful steroid the second time round I would use trest. Keep the estrogen on lock down though.
Elijah Foster
tfw i can both cut and bulk easily as hell, because i am both a former ~185lbs obeast and a former anorexic at 122-123lbs
feels mentally ill man
Evan Morris
what is gay about fucking this
Jayden Jenkins
It's twice as gay because you try to hide it
Aiden Rivera
What about test e + deca + dbol + AI?
Luke Jones
Unless you're a woman or 5"2 185 is no way obese
Henry Hernandez
>185 lbs >beast
Fine as long as you're not planning to come off once you finish the deca, deca takes a long time to clear, so you should cruise or use other compounds after you finish the deca for some time at least.
Thomas Perry
So I'm 23 and have test levels of 509 and free test of 66.8. I am being treated currently for a virus induced hypothyroidism. My doctor believes my test levels will be elevated when I recover. This being said, are my current levels bad?
Samuel Taylor
there is nothing gay about liking traps. if you (like me) are attracted to the feminine features, it is completely heterosexual. yes, they have penises, but who doesnt? you can relate to what they are feeling better when they masturbate because you can do it the same way, thus, its more enjoyable to watch. a lot of people think theyre men in makeup and wigs, but they're not, theyre women with penises and the perfect feminine features that i am attracted to. obviously no one that likes traps is not turned on by the actual penis, but what is around it
Logan Collins
its literally not gay hot feminine figure
so the guy looking thing here is an ftm are you saying it wouldn't be gay to be attracted to that? you closet homo
theyre lowish but not awful
yeah exactly its a girl without being a scary girl win/win
Samuel Jackson
i probably had less than 120lbs of muscle mass
Chase Murphy
They're both gay you fag.
Why are you so desperate to like gay shit but convince everyone on a Mongol autism awareness board that you're straight and definitely not gay?
Jaxson Hernandez
Right. I'm thinking 16 weeks of test e and 14 of deca, with maybe dbol on the first 6.
I'm really unsure about dosage, though. What are the risks of a high dosage like 800mg/wk test e, 600mg/wk deca and 60mg/day dbol?
And what about including HCG?
Lincoln Gutierrez
>What are the risks google
Isaac Phillips
The risks are high estrogen, and gyno symptoms, and along with the high estrogen, high blood pressure.
It depends if you're susceptible to estrogen sides or not, I kinda am. Much more than androgen sides. Tren doesn't give me much sides, but I get sore nips and high blood pressure if I don't keep estrogen in check, eg: 20mg/day dbol did it to me.
On trest I'll be keeping estrogen in lock down.
Jaxson Martin
those cant both be gay for the same reason though if its gay because it was a guy, then the ftm wouldmt be gay if that was gay because it is now masculine, the mtf wouldnt be gay
ya'll fools are being ignant
Isaac Sanders
>dodging the question
They're both gay for the same reason. The trap is doubly gay is all.
The "man" isn't merely a tomboy. She wont let you treat her like a woman, has a deepened voice, facial hair, and is injecting test.
Sebastian Walker
methyloestrogen =\= oestrogen
Asher Walker
How are they both gay If its because of what they used to be, then one is If its what they currently are, the other is If its the genitals, only one is
Justin White
Yeah, the effects are stronger than estrogen. Need to control that shit.
Eli Jenkins
One is a man who either wishes they were a woman or actually believes they are a woman, they are emulating a woman, but is actually not. That's gay.
It's okay if you're gay Jerry, this outcome is inevitable staying on tren too long.
The other is a vice versa, even if you get past the physique, the deepened voice, the body hair, the test levels of a man - in order to do them they'll have you treat them as if they were a man, and not a woman, and maybe they'll be the one wanting to do you not the other way around.
That's gay.
I do not know why you're so desperate to convince everyone that you're straight as an arrow, because this shit sure ain't straight.
Brandon Sanchez
Thats pretty good But then theyre both gay for females too So the only non gay couple would be mtfxtfm *and cis, obviously
There is literally nothing gay about putting on womens panties, a dress, and watching a mtf fuck a guy to get off Literally nothing
Kevin Howard
Thoughts on weighted ab workouts? I want my abs to still be somewhat visible not being at single digit BF, and I always did unweighted and they never popped.
Would this widen my waist if I were to stick to weighted rectus abdominus work and unweighted direct oblique work? Or is it all just genetics
Joshua Wood
I thought AI would deal with the estrogen problem.
Jaxson Lee
Depends on how much conversion it stops, methylestrogen is strong and it wont bind to SHBG, if you're sensitive you may need more or stronger AI like letro, or use a serm in conjuction with asin dose to protect your titties.
That's probably what I'll do (use a serm in conjunction).
>Literally nothing
Let me talk to Jerry now, I know that's the Tren talking.
Colton Ward
I'm considering trying to get my hands on trest base and trying to make trest phenylprop, butyrate or hexanoate. More stable levels. Butyrate should be g2g for E3D (I know there were issues making cyp and enan esters of trest).
Decanoate is too long for trest.
Jack Barnes
My levels were 190-270 natty, hell my gains were fuckin obscene natty as well. Your levels are fine unless you have some low T signs. For example I had 0 libido and dick soft like yo mammy's breast. Test fixed all that shit and my depression, I miss the 0 libido tho, girls are time consuming.
Colton Martin
One guess as to what I've been up to.
Ian Sanchez
Any europeans here used /tor/ to order before? Ever had any issues with customs?
Norwaybros would be the most appreciated
Kevin Howard
Falling into the trap of a mixed race she devil and drowning in her feminine juices
KYS you baka
Joshua Hill
Rubbing your cunt while on the rag?
It's a fitness board, not a fetish board
Christopher Russell
posting this for Grandpa because he made me WOKE AF
