/Fraud/ Steroid General

please ignore the garbage rummaging laptop seller

I'm going to stop putting fucking spaces in between every single sentence that I write and you're not going to be able to call me out so easily anymore.

gayforpay, bottom only

Jesus fuck, Im not sure if you're jaded or im naive

As a 22yo living check to check, i'm jealous of your $

As a completely straight man, how difficult would it be for me to swallow my pride and then swallow some dick for g4p? Is it worth the money? How good does my body have to be?

>gayforpay, bottom only
respect

>Jesus fuck, Im not sure if you're jaded or im naive
little column a, little column b

the second one. I spend too much time here, my life is a meme at this point.

just because you're living check to check now doesn't mean you will be forever, next year, or any other year

Do you have a car? Drive to some rich suburbs, go to their 'recycling' facilities. There should be a computer section. Rich people are insane. They throw out $250 laptops because they have a virus. Throw out TVs you can sell for $100 on craiglist because they bought a $5000 tv and don't need it anymore.

that's what I started out. Then my daddy got me into this business through 100% nepotism.

nepotism smuggest feel

I'm meming I sell off lease laptops

like I said Daddy's nepotism was the only reason I go the connects to get into this, but the capital came from dumpster diving. I just don't want to pull a NotOP and 'Man anyone can get rich just go to the gold course and meet people'

honesty=key

Holy shit thats actually a really good idea. I'm so going to try this.

/fraud/ is best general by far, I love ya'll

tfw there's no way to have a decent haircut without having to spend time styling it in the morning with product and shit

why is looking nice so complicated?

i don't know you tell me

I was making more in one day of that than I did in one week of washing dishes

>fraud best general

no shit sherlock

REMINDER:
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Real men don't use -- or need -- steroids.
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This is a lie, my hair gets loads of compliments and all i do is let it dry naturally then spray dry shampoo in it

i never even wash it

Damn, you got us... AGAIN...

WHEN WILL WE LEARN?!

I doubt it m8

post haircut

also tfw i have not gotten a haircut in around 2.5 months

my dad (who is mentally unstable but not in the dumb illogical kind of way, really just the bipolar kind of way) was like "son you need to get a haircut, it's getting ridiculous, especially the neck"

but i don't even give a shit. my face looks retarded enough who gives a fuck if i cut my hair

i wear a hat everywhere anyway

>tfw you figure out glands real identity

Here ya go,

It needs a lil trim and I havent slept in 2 days so be gentle fampais

You could have at least picked someone who was disgusting looking, or some kind of fucked up animal

Also ok I am done. Fuck retail WoW it sucks dick. Just get fucking mongod over and over by retards backpeddling with their 2 button MOBA melee classes

Time to find a different way to waste my life until my inevitable suicide

I wonder what kind of irreparable mental damage these glands have done to you

like are you even going to get your confidence/self-esteem back after this long of being a depressed beta fucker? probably not

>this
>no product
nigga please, there's no way that holds otherwise

u got forward head posture really bad

I have it too

Not sure how to fix.

What's the deal with your acne, any progress? No fap has helped me.

I would cut out dairy but I have a 10lb bag of whey

>like are you even going to get your confidence/self-esteem back after this long of being a depressed beta fucker? probably not

I did it, why can't he.

I use dry shampoo and thats it. Pic related is what I use. I go literal months before I wash my hair, so I assume that my natural oil helps a bit, and the dry shampoo gives it an amazing texture as well

Ya dude my posture and acne are shit because I havent slept in 2 days. Skin generally looks a lot clearer, and im also in the middle of an isotretinoin cycle and thats starting to clear up my backne which is nice

>havent slept in 2 days.

But what about your gains senapia

Anyways yeah, my sleep pattern has been so fucked up. 3 hours a night, sleeping at 6 in the morning, all sorts of fucked up shit

I know it's murdering my gains but I can't seem to help it

You been busy with work or what?

ALSO if you haven't tried it already, you can buy benzyl peroxide cream from a pharmacy that works amazingly on individual pimples

It comes in 2.5%, 5%, and 7.5% strengths. Try the 5% first

Usually im pretty good, 8hrs solid sleep a night so im not too worried about this weekend. My best mate recently moved interstate and he just came back this weekend so I was just spending as much time as possible with him. Dropped him back at the airport and now I'm waiting till a reasonable time to go to sleep so that I dont screw up my pattern too bad

>sleeping at 6 in the morning
It doesnt really matter WHEN you sleep, i think what matters is the consistency and duration of sleep. Just try get 8 hours, even if it is 5am - 1pm every day

See I don't get individual pimples too much, more just blackheads and clogged pores all over my face.

Once in a while a nice big zit comes in.

Also on sleep, the problem is, that it's hard to keep track of what is one day when your sleep pattern is that fucked. Like I'll sleep for 3 hours, wake up, work for 3 hours, lift, eat,... go back to sleep for 3 hours.

I keep waking up after sleeping for 4 or 5 hours. Sometimes 3. Recent devolpment. Not sure why it's happening.

I bought some melatonnin. Got me asleep for 6.

I'm trying not to fuck up my shit but it's so hard.

Routine, sure, follow it, diet, ok,, follow it, lifting? Just go and lift.

But sleep seems to be the hardest part, for me at least. I can't make myself sleep for 8 hours. It's not a willpower problem, it's just actually fucking difficult

If it's blackheads, just exfoliating shit I guess? Not too sure about that one.

Theres a bunch of shit you can get from pharmacies that should knock you out for extended periods. Im not sure if the brand names are the same, but if im having difficulty, I have polaramine, restavit (this shit will make you feel groggy the next day, but I could sleep for like 16h), and DPH (this is benadryl, a syrup antihistamine used to treat allergies but will also knock you out.)
Come to think of it, any antihistamine that isnt non-drowsy should knock you out. You might have to jump through some hoops to get it tho.
If youve got any benzos then you could use those to help as well, valium, xans etc. Opiates are also great, but i prefer to stay awake when I eat those just bc its fun (pls no bully)

Benzos will help you a LOT if the issue is a stress/anxiety problem.

Has anything in particular changed in your life that mightve caused difficulty sleeping?

Haven't even been working out, just can't bring myself to do it. The only reason I'm still alive is because the chance of fixing this shit is still non-zero.

I should know by either thursday or friday if I am gonna have to kill myself since I think that's when I go back to the specialist with my new blood work and MRI results.

If he gives me bullshit about waiting it out or says it's "normal" I'll just say fuck it and kill myself that same day/night. I already encrypted all my shit in preparation for it, lol. No need for faggots to go through all my dumb shit after I'm dead lel

Although I will probably want to get rid of my roids and shit first, so they don't go around blaming muh evil steroids for everything

Would draining my blood in a hot bath even work, using a 21g butterfly needle? It shouldn't have the coagulation problem like I did when I drained my blood, because I stole it from the place that drew my blood, and it flows fast as fuck with those apparently. Like would I actually die or would the blood somehow stop, even with a butterfly needle while submerged in hot water

It's like every pore in my skin is clogged. Weird. Blackheads all over.

Ex gf used to have some fixation with removing them. Would remove them from every pore on my face one by one kek.

>drugs drugs drugs

I recently moved back in with my parents because DESU I was happier living with them than alone, missed them, etc.

Plus now mommy washes my dirty undies, is nice feel. I broke up with live in GF, got sick of taking care of myself honestly, mom is replacement.

Only problem is I can't exactly bring home some benzos or opiates, for sure they would realize I was on or find them (I'm clumsy)

>LOT if the issue is a stress/anxiety problem.

Funny enough it's not a stress or anxiety problem. I don't have any. Super happy.

The only thing causing me stress is I worry my fucked up sleep (as of late) is costing me all my gains which is stressing me.

>changes in my life

Nah I've been living in mommy's basement for like ages now man

>so they don't go around blaming muh evil steroids for everything

I mean, if the steroids DID cause the swollen glands...

>kill myself

Can you not though? I'd rather see people in the general I frequent to succeed/be happy.

Nevermind the sheer stupidity that your glands are going to stop you from being happy with other facets of your life

If you told your doctor that you're taking shitty chinese bathtub steroids would they give you proper ones for harm reduction?

Like giving junkies methadone instead of heroin

Yes I am the sole person in the world who gets swollen glands from even 100mg of testosterone a week

You walk around with 1/2 baseball sized lumps behind your jaw and 1/2 golf ball sized lumps under your jaw and chin

Bet you would get suicidal from being hideously disgustingly disfigured after a while too

Most people recommend that a beginner cycle be 500 mg per week for the average first time user. If the average first time user is, say. 175lbs and of average height, but I'm 6'10" and already 350lbs, should I up the dose for my first cycle to achieve the same concentration of hormone in my body?

if you're so intent on doing this why not just find a crooked endrocrinologist to give you all the /fraud/ you want?

No dude I wouldn't

Take pride in your physique or literally anything else

No one is perfect

Stop being such a faggot glands

I'll be personally disappointed in you if I ever hear from your dumbass again

>I'm 6'10" and already 350lbs

Bro you can't use test unless you're really lean because test aromtizes into estrogen in fat

You gotta cut now then use it

Anyways yeah bigger you are more gear you need but 500mg is a large dose anyways so...

You were only on 100mg test?

Thats weird. Try seeing a GP? There's also shit like facemasks/pore dirt removal strips if you can be fucked

I'd suggest a GP for your sleep problem too but they'd probably give you the same advice I am. Have you tried all the basic shit like turning off all electronics, creating a before-bed routine, not using any screens for 30mins before you sleep etc?

>Only problem is I can't exactly bring home some benzos or opiates
Okay so thats fine, the antihistamines would be fine though, especially the polaramine or restavit, theyre pills and not abusable at all. If you get questioned about them you can just say you had hayfever or some shit and the pharmacist gave it to you

I'm jealous of you moving back in. Ive been living out of home for 4 years now (im 22) and I for sure miss home cooked dinners. Plus just being able to hug my mum whenever I want is amazing. I love my mum.

Yep, I'd go like 700mg p/w maybe. Are you REALLY 6'10" 350lbs though? Bf%? Pics? Fuckin mirin' man (unless you're fat?)

Nice trips, glandsman. Have you posted a face pic before? Can you? Ive seen the upclose pics of the glands, i'd like to see your current face though to see if it really is as bad as you say it is

No he took what his seller give him as 'tren' but it turned out that it wasnt tren at all,and they said it was a 'mistake' so they gave him real tren.
God knows what did he shoot into his ass.

>Nice trips, glandsman. Have you posted a face pic before? Can you? Ive seen the upclose pics of the glands, i'd like to see your current face though to see if it really is as bad as you say it is

This.

If you're going to kil yourself where's the harm in posting your face

>Have you tried all the basic shit like turning off all electronics, creating a before-bed routine, not using any screens for 30mins before you sleep etc?

Yeah except the before bed routine.

Just do the same (non screen) activity every day yeah?

I'll look into the antiistamines.

I'm a fatty fat fat fat but I don't give a shit about aromatization since I'll have an AI and I'm lifting for strength not aesthetics so bf% doesn't matter that much to me

GET OUT OF MY GENERAL FATTY

WE AESTHETIC GODS ITT

N U M A L E
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I prob will if I kill myself which again depends on what I hear on thursday/friday when I go back to the specialist

Heard worse, post your own pics?

Ok, if its purely for strength and you dont give a fuck about sides then just run halo or some shit

Run me through why having an ugly face makes you wanna die?

>3 years
>16% / 84kg
>20

was going to use test enanthate 500mg/w for 16 weeks for first cycle, with aromasin for AI, want to throw 40mg dbol per day in for the first 4 weeks as a kickstart, how much would i need to adjust AI for the dbol since it's regarded as a pretty wet oral?

One of you guys should make a paste bin it'd really help.
A Few questions

I'm 25
20% bf
Only been lifting for 5 months so I'm at dyel mode

Would using gear to just speed up the process not be a more logical choice compared to spending a full year making less gains?

Also one thing scaring me about roids is PCT anyone have any experience getting the drugs you need for PCT are they hard to come by? Not asking for a source just wondering how you handled it.

I mean I care about sides, I don't want to fucking die before I'm 40

but yeah I already have tiddies

pct meds are easier to get than the roids themselves, and roids are REALLY easy to get. every ugl sells their own ancilliaries, or you can go to various online pharmacies. the meds aren't illegal, they're just prescription based so shit isn't hard to get through customs (they don't know whether you have a prescription or not)

most people will tell you not to roid early. make your own choice and make sure you've properly researched everything

insecurity

dont roid at 20% bf

dont roid if you've been lifting for 5 months

your shit is fucking stupid dude

>Would using gear to just speed up the process not be a more logical choice compared to spending a full year making less gains?

Your tendons and shit need a year to get used to lifting and putting on muscle.

You can counteract this by taking memek but it's still retarded

You need to be lean to use gear or estrogen and increased need for AI

what is with all these fatties wanting to hop on

This. He is too much of a little pussy bitch to post his own pics. So he's gonna sit there and and call you out while hiding.

Sad.

You dont wanna use roids at 20%bf, your sides will be very bad. Cut first, make sure you can consistantly keep your diet/training/sleeping on point, then think about jumping on.

I got my PCT and AI from the internet, it seemed pretty easy in my experience. You can also source through doctors and pharmacies if youve got friends

I mean, breh. At that weight you can still eat a lot and lose weight. Why not run clen/dnp/duramine/nothing and drop weight before hopping on? Are you that impatient? Lifting isnt a race my man. Play shit like this safe.
In any case, if youre still deadset on hopping on, I'd start at 500mg pw of a short testosterone ester so that you can adjust it higher if you need. Theres no point using test-E if you want to adjust the dosage, as by the time you figure out you want to increase the dose its already week 8 or some shit.
Just make sure you have plenty of AI and PCT on hand and ready

I have said this 500 fucking times because it is not fucking "ugly" it is fucking deformed. Whenever a relative saw me for the first time since it happened, without fail they always said shit like "oh my GOD what is that" or "wow what is that it's massive!" And even my obese disgusting mother said she can't stand looking at my face like this anymore

I don't wanna kill myself but if I can't get rid of this then I have no choice. Fucking such bullshit

Nigga if your family is saying shit like this then you need to be questioning if you really want to be spending time around them.

Show pics? Im sure its not that bad. And besides, people live happy and successfully with far worse than a deformed face.

lmao, this "you need to be lean" shit is retarded

i've run gear at 20% and needed literally no more AI than otherwise, and have never had any estro sides. how the fuck do you think high level powerlifters run gear if cycling at higher bf% levels is so damn dangerous

If you ever bothered to cut (you never will) you'd discover how much gyno you have

And no, PCT won't cure it at the level you have it

Who tf said it was dangerous? All people say is that the sides will be worse, which is true.

>high level powerlifters run gear if cycling at higher bf% levels

implying all elite powerlifters are fat

implying ANY elite powerlifter cycles

Please read some more before you post again.

>that natty cuck offering advice in /fraud/

I can spot you

a lot of elite powerlifters cycle, yes. pretty much every single one in tested federations in fact. that's not even what the guy you quoted was saying anyway

nice strawman my buddy

I've seen your face nigger,you are not 'deformed'.

that's not what a strawman is by any kind of definition

did you mean ad hominem? because I also answered your retarded argument, so that doesn't work either

kill yourself illiterate nigger

This thread was civil until you woke up and logged into your moms computer. Time for school soon?

3 different people my man

3 different schoolkids my dude

just remember that it's obvious when you post your natty cuck bullshit in my thread

>no natties in my secret club
>all natties are idiots

Ur a walking talking meme

if I can identify you as natty when you post, it should be obvious that yes, it does make you an idiot

Im new to supplements (I've only taken whey so far), I was thinking of getting something to increase my current height 6'1 so I assume I'm looking for HGH , right ? Is mk677 a good drug to start on for increasing HGH production ? (Recently turned 18 so I'm sure I'm still growing)

gtfo cap

Swear to god

>hey guys is mk677 good

>trip on

>yeah it's the best what's your email I'll sell u some!

HAHAHAAHHAAHHA AHHAHAHAH
THAT LAST THREAD LMAO.

>>How long did it take for a body like (You)? I want to go for a bit less than that.

>he thinks i took steroids to look like that
>he doesnt realize i did that within 1 year of lifting with shitty diet

AAHHAHAAHAHHAAHAH HAAHHAAH YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT SENPAI

>he wants to take steroids to look less than that
>than that
>fucking that

FKN LMAO, KILL YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF HUMAN GARBAGE

Im just asking what are good supplements that will inreace or stimulate HGH growth, and if anyone here has experience or advice

Hate the cuck attitude man.

>what's the easiest way with the least effort to easy easy easy I'm lazy look at me

Also.

>implying he would even get to your 1 year natty body with roid

Doubt it with his attitude

>getting meme'd this hard

I don't get how I'm being >memed
HGH increases height growth and there are drugs with HGH , am I missing something ?

brain cells

common sense

this is coming from a guy with a 2 digit IQ so you know you fucked up hard

Second cycle advices please!

So this subforum is a joke right?
People cant actually be destroying themselves with steroids because of the insecurities society pushes on them...
Heart to heart. Human to human.. you all are perfect the way you are and dont need to be shooting this poison in your veins. I know society is harsh on all genders these days to look "perfect". But we are perfect. For beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wish you all best of luck and to escape your drug ridden abyss that has become your life.

Holy fuck lmao complete retard bro.

fuck off fat retard

there are several problems bro

you never know if your growth plates are closed or not, some people stop growing at the age of 15
finding legit hgh in the first place
if you find it, affording it
okay so ur a rich boy and bhought 4 vials, great
are you rich enough to afford it for the next 3 years?
paying all that money and shooting hgh for years, and then you still dont have a guarantee that it will actually make you grow

oh and

>wanting to grow taller when you are already 6'1"
kek kys

you could cut of a part of your legs tho so you can dwarf down to 5'11" master race

...

nice b8

Anyone want to get creampied?

Can you even reach deep enough for that

t. virgin

nice trips tho

>tfw gonna start watching DBZ so I can bantz with moosey about it

I've fapped to so much creampie porn today - I was scrolling through and your post stood the fuck out.

>porn

>not doing nofap/noporn and saving it for a qts walls

I'm not big enough yet.

t. insecure lanklet

Thats pretty beta of you.
It was probably cuck creampies wasnt it? you weak, weak, man.

Loose those fucking ugly glasses