What's wrong with eugenics, Veeky Forums?

What's wrong with eugenics, Veeky Forums?

i don't want people to be better than me

The state does not have ownership over human lives, you filthy leftist

>wanting to eradicate untermensch is leftist

Veeky Forums would be dead with all us degenerates and autists exterminated.

And?

If it were based on intelligence then Asians would take over the world, if athletic ability blacks would rule, if religious bullshit it'd be Arabs, but money runs the world and that's why the Jews are slowly euthanizing everyone that isn't Jewy enough.

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>What's wrong with eugenics, Veeky Forums?

The overarching issue is a problem of authority. Who has the right to decide what? What if the government decided that you and everyone like you lose your reproductive rights and come in the night to chemically castrate you?

The secondary issue is that genetics still aren't clearly understood. By selecting against one thing, you could unknowingly make the human race more fragile in the long run. Certain disorders might have unknown benefits.

Genetic engineering might be able to solve the second problem, but the first issue is still there.

Nothing.
Firmly encourage the strong to have more strong children and castrate the weak and sick. It's a good system. And also merciful so you don't burden more people to be born with genetic diseases

What about the situation where people reach their peaks later in life? Imagine if Steve Jobs or mark cuckerburg got gassed earlier on in life because they were thought to be fucking spooge heads or some shit

That's what propaganda is for

as any other human conquest, the person who has the right and authority is the one with the power.

Checked them trip 69s

If they were gassed early in life the world would be a better place.

>What's wrong with eugenics, Veeky Forums?
In and of itself, nothing, really. It's when you mix it with state power that it turns bad.

>comiting crimes are genetic

Yeah which wouldn't be you, retard.

Authority.

And since this thread is going to devolve into /pol/ anyway, I'll use them as an example;

/pol/ is a huge advocate of eugenics to eliminate essentially any race that isn't white, with perhaps an inclusion of Asians as well.

However, they are also vehemently opposed to Jews using propaganda and other immigration as means to make white birth rates plummet, which is arguably also eugenics.

Everybody talks a big game about eugenics when they think they're ubermensch; the issue is, they more often than not aren't.

Objectively/utilitarianly, nothing.

Morally, everything.

congratuations on making that statement. im sure your education did wonders and your mother is so proud of you. im actually curious how in any way you figured I wanted to be the authority?

retard.

>the degenerate gets mad

It is. Leftist want to eradicate their enemies just as much as rightists. They dehumanize and devalue their enemies equally, they just define them differently.

>resort to name calling when obvious flaw in your statement is exposed
Go back to your basement, kid. Play some world of warcraft.

Lol no. Jews have the highest average racial IQ with 117. The reason the dominate fiscally is their teamwork, which allows them to control media networks.

Should be saying our, as in "our race does run the world"

Stay mad degenerate, we'll come back to you on the day of the rope.

>Jews have the highest average racial IQ with 117
Why aren't white people killing themselves then? They are obviously genetically inferior.

It is. Look at the nigger crime rate.

White people kill each other everyday, same goes for all other races.
Wherever you go violent crime will be present, doesn't matter if it's Nippon, USA, Canada, Lithuania, etc.
As for Jews, who are white you imbecilic swine, they are killing white people via media controlling, which controls the uneducated masses and can incite fear, envy, jealousy, hatred, etc.
Just through media control you can sway people's opinions and even influence their personalities, which is an effective tool against all races as uneducated peoples will be present in every ethnic group.
TL;DR you are an idiot.

Well, forcibly terminating the lives of another person because you deem them inferior is fucked up, as is sterilizing them without their consent.

MUH STATE

WAGHHHHH MOMMY THE STATE

replace the patriarchy with the state and libertarians are the exact same as progressive SJWs

Ability != right.
>Implying IQ is a statistically legitimate measure of intelligence
This.

The problem is that we'd all like to think we'd qualify to pass on genes. I reality, we'd probably all be the last chosen.
No one would have a problem with it unless it negatively affects them.

>poor, politically marginized communities commit crimes more often then people who have their basic needs met
>thinks it's about race
>has never visited a white trailer park in the middle of PA, a white poor neighborhood in northern Dublin, wandered into a shitty chavvy part of London, or into a crappy town in Italy.

Eugenics is one of those "good ideas that can't be implemented by stupid humans"

We'll just fuck it up. Like we have with abortion, womens suffrage, welfare, liberalism etc

The people who push it are almost always the people who should be wiped out first.

I mean, how many wealthy wasps are genetically inferior wastes of air who's power and ability comes from the fact that they are born in a class above others.

Take a good look at the people pushing it. No seriously.
How many of them have anything to give to society beyond scoring slightly above normal on a test?

Zuckerberg is quite honestly a fucktard and a thief.
Any retard could have made facebook and two twins actually did make it. Zuckerberg just got to the patent office and into bed with the NSA before they did.

Horshoe theory in action: go too far in either direction and you end up being the same.

Nice Satan trips. Also this phenomena happens in agriculture all the time. I'll give you an example
>a super high test holstein bull who threw out many superior female offspring was a really popular choice for semen in the late 70s and early 80s
>everything's going great his daughters are big and healthy and make a lot of milk yadda yadda
>over this period of time the number of cows who had difficulty becoming pregnant 3 or more times began to rise too
>but the trend was hard to spot because it came on gradually due to cattle having a 9 month gestational cycle and usually giving one calf at a time so most initial evidence of a trend was anecdotal at best
>turns out that high test bull carried a recessive trait that caused some of his female offspring to be able to reproduce after the age of 5 or 6 basically. An age that was once considered prime for production.
>today that recessive gene has been carried out logarithmically throughout American herds due to his popularity and the popularity of his offspring both male and female before the trend was spotted
>many many commercial Holsteins have to be beefed before the age of 7 now
This is a good example of how fucked up shit can get because generational trends are hard to spot for animals who have 9 month gestations and typically give only one offspring at a time.

>"Yay! They are going to implement eugenics. Now I don't have to compete with Chad and Tyrone."
>"Hey, why are you taking me away?"

>Jews are white

Top kek /pol/ you just implode on yourself when your race supremacy logic starts leaning anywhere but white.

Jews have high verbal IQ and create nothing.

Nigger killing is about the same rate in every country around the world. How is that not genetic behavior?

Because nobody saying this ever thinks they'd be the ones killed off

SPOILERS: You'd probably be killed off.

Nothing, inherently. An easier pill to swallow would be removing welfare, which is expressly dysgenic.

The people having all the kids are those with little resources and low IQ. While all of the people with high IQ are having fewer and fewer children. It's very plausible that the world will become infested by retards.

>eugenics automatically means killing undesirables
You niggas are retarded. It's as simple as banning them from reproducing. It's the same effect, with only a fraction of the moral panic.

>ITT: people acting as if trump implemented eugenics 95% of the country would be sent to the extermination camps
come on, at most they'd cull 1%-2%

anyone in a mental hospital, or long-term care for chromosomal deficiencies/severe autism

that would just wipe out the tripfags, not "everyone on Veeky Forums"

>I don't know what eugenics is

Conservatibes
>wahhh abortion is wrong life is sacred!!
>eugenics isn't bad lolol die cripple!!

Because despite what dumb shits think about preserving the human race, the genetic diversity loss of eugenics would reduce the survival of the species. That's not even considering the immorality under most ethical systems.

Yeah, replace the state with degenerates and alt rightists are the same as everyone else. Every group as their boogeymen, it's just that some groups have legitimate boogeymen and the rest don't. I hope statists like (you) burn.

fight me IRL tbqh

>blacks
>athletic

there is more to being an athlete than running fast in a straight line and taking steroids

Christian conservatives were against eugenics back in the 1920s.

Most eugenics supporters have no problem with abortion, because it is itself eugenic.

>What's wrong with eugenics, Veeky Forums?

Nothing so long as you let the previous unaltered generations die off in peace while a new breed of humans free of genetic disorders inherit the Earth.

CRISPR is just the start but it seems the idea of picking your child's gender/hair color/eye color is too much for some people.

Like being upset about it?

Depends.

It doesn't have to kill the "undesirables".

Making sure that the bottom 10% doesn't reproduce is good enough. I see no problem in sterilizing felons and junkies tbqh. It's more morally justifiable than abortion, yet abortion is socially acceptable.

Well unless they based eugenics on ability to steal and collect welfare bucks it'd be them being bred out of existence, not us.

Literally this.

>implying it isn't already

nothing. some people are born better, its just how it is. as to what we do with undesirables, ask the generations of undesirables who've done nothing to improve their lot and instead enslaved themselves because they stopped giving a fuck. they're parasites, let them rot in their filth.

Eugenics is a leftist idea, you fucking faggot.
Hell one the UK's main parties, Labour's main think-tank (The Fabian Society) was original an organisation with the goal of implementing global socialism and eugenics.

This. Redditors need to stay the fuck away until they can muster a degree of intelligence.