NoFap and my thoughts

I want to begin this thread with a roughly accurate disclaimer:

You do not need NoFap if you masturbate once a month or less

You probably do not need NoFap if you are masturbating once a week

You probably need NoFap if you masturbate once a day

You DEFINITELY need NoFap if you masturbate 2+ times a day

I am going to separate this into sections to better elucidate my thoughts, which are all over the place as I try to take this rather large and complex problem and boil it down to a few key issues.. An intro, a section on pornography and a section on just masturbation without porn.

~Introduction~

It is my belief that pornography, and masturbation as well, cause us to become complacent with our lives. Our energy and motivation is drained through masturbation/sex. We don't notice this effect so much with sex because we aren't having sex 5 times a day. Our libido is a good thing, but we use it incorrectly. I have grown to hate my "high" libido and curse myself for masturbating 5-6 times a day. But the reality is that I simply needed to redirect that energy elsewhere. My libido wasn’t naturally high, I just spent that energy all on PMO when it could’ve been put towards so much more. For example, instead of putting it towards progressing and improving ourselves, especially socially, we waste it by the easy to access cycle of PMO (Porn>Masturbation>Orgasm).

You think you're making good progress at the gym? Good on your studies? Great, but I'm sure you would do even better if you weren't addicted to porn.

If you feel like no matter what you do, things never work out, you are probably being held back by PMO addiction. Masturbation is a drug, just like any other. It is so much more dangerous than something like cocaine. Consider the following:

Cocaine is:

-expensive

-hard to obtain

-can OD on it

Masturbation is:

-free

-easy to obtain

-impossible to OD on, can spam it endlessly and end up masturbating 8 times in a day

Cont.

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#General_benefits&ved=0ahUKEwjNr4Tr-ufQAhVK7yYKHdJHDMIQygQIHzAA&usg=AFQjCNEu1jw0iEzDr0quc5W8qzk4mzsNrw
europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Before I continue, I should give a brief explanation of what dopamine is. Dopamine, in the most basic sense, is a neurotransmitter in your brain (a messenger basically) that sends a signal of pleasure. You get dopamine for doing nearly anything. Dopamine for eating, sleeping, getting a good grade, masturbating, and doing heroin or cocaine. Heroin releases roughly the same amount of dopamine as masturbation does. But masturbation is $0, and can be done so many times without fear of OD’ing. You can blow a load right before class and if you hurry, you can make it on time. This super… user friendliness for lack of a better term, means addiction is easy and dopamine levels will be borked soon. Your brain shuts off dopamine receptors (they accept the signals dopamine gives off) when you get addicted to a drug or masturbation, because they’re CONSTANTLY being flooded with that stuff. This in turn means you don’t feel as good normally. If you feel like shit all the time, surprise surprise, this is why. You have to jerk off to feel good now, because your state of masturbating constantly is the state that’s considered “normal” for your brain now. NOT masturbating is too low for your brain now.

We become lazy and unmotivated when we reward ourselves with pornography/masturbation constantly. One example is socializing. I myself have become socially retarded by subjecting myself to porn and masturbation. I have been jerking off since the 6th grade. It's been 9 years? now of masturbating for me. Through this I have avoided females and learned to view them as sex objects instead of people to spend time with and bond with. It's broken my mind and others as well (people who think all women are dumb sluts etc, have had their minds broken).

cont.

Conversely, we find ourselves motivated to succeed when we don’t succumb to PMO or sex:

“People ask me a lot about my drive. I think it comes from, like, having a sexual addiction at a really young age. Look at the drive that people have to get sex — to dress like this and get a haircut and be in the club in the freezing cold at 3 A.M., the places they go to pick up a girl. If you can focus the energy into something valuable, put that into work ethic ... "
-Kanye West

Another (extreme) example: Nikola Tesla thought women drained your energy as a man, he died a virgin but invented AC (alternating currents). This extreme level probably worked for him but isn’t necessary. You don’t become addicted to cocaine using it once, and you don’t become addicted to sex by doing it with your gf once a week.

Pornography degrades us. I’m not going to ever suggest that the jews are behind porn and have rigged the system or some other conspiracy bullshit, but that cuckold porn you might be watching isn’t innocent. It weakens you mentally. When you masturbate to interracial cuckold porn for example, you get off on it because it is humiliating to watch a black man have sex with your gf/wife, or even any white woman. This innately suggests a racial issue. You think that Tyrone is inferior, so when you see him fucking some pornstar on the internet, it gets you going. You think that this backwards way of viewing another man is silly and is only a porn fetish, but it is really internalised racism. I don’t give a shit how certain you are that you are or aren’t REALLY racist. Everyone is racist towards each other to a certain degree. Black people are racist to themselves. But what’s important to understand, is that real life cuckolds are an extension of this porn fetish.

These people didn’t sprout out of nowhere. This was first illuminated to me when I read a post from /r/OkCupid on reddit about annoying things on that dating site that bothered them. A black guy responded to it, mentioning how he occasionally got asked by white couples if he would participate in their cuckold fetish, and how annoying it was. Take a step back and realize how incredulous this is. These *literal* cucks were racist whether they knew it or not, by trying to invite this poor guy into their fucked up, autistic world of cuckoldry. Dude’s trying to meet someone who will love him on a dating site, and just because he was black and fit, the cuck thought it was a good idea to beg him to fuck his wife while some he sits in the corner tugging his dick. Think about the woman in the couple, who just loves her man so much she will try disgusting, revolting acts for him. He tells her it’s “cool” and “modern” to be sexually promiscuous to get her to follow in his abhorrent, fucked up fetish. Just because they wouldn’t do anything hateful to black people in real life, doesn’t mean they aren’t cucked and racist in their minds. By engaging in cuckold porn like this, you bring yourself one step closer to become a real life cuck, and become weaker mentally. This pornography promotes racist thoughts inside your mind. Racism stems from fear (fear of people different from you), and to eliminate fear is to eliminate any real weakness within oneself. (If you don’t fear death, you are unstoppable. If you don’t fear women, you will have no problem getting a gf.)

"There is no illusion greater than fear." -Lao Tzu

youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk - Don’t Be a Sucker (1947)

(Unrelated video but a powerful one that shows how division of mankind is used to weaken us and manipulate us. We take the minorities and pit them against us, and then take the NEW minority and pit those people against us. The end result is that the majority is essentially cucked by the government and tricked into thinking they are at ends with whatever minority is currently depicted.) In a much smaller scale, pornography cucks us like this.

There are other devolving fetishes besides cuckoldry. Furry porn and other degrading trash is only attractive to people who have damaged their minds with nonstop porn. The normal shit doesn’t get it going for them, so they have to resort to even more disturbing and fucked up fetishes. The first time I realized porn addiction was a real thing, is when I found myself one night jerking off to an underage cartoon pony. This, surely, was the deepest recesses of autism. I was wrong. I quickly realized how deep the hole of sexual deviancy went, and in 9th grade I began to research NoFap. In 10th grade, I began abstaining from porn and successfully went on a cut for the first time. I dropped from 140 to 115 lbs in only 4 months or so. I was so proud of myself. Finally, some positive changes in my adolescent life.

I also tried “being” gay as a way to get myself off. I belittled myself in a similar way to cuckolding, this time I saw myself as inferior to other men and submitting to them. I realized after highschool that I wasn’t actually gay, just so far down the porno hole that I would humiliate myself by thinking of my artificial inferiority as a way to get off. I even at one point considered taking hormones to become a girl. PMO had damaged me so badly I almost ruined my life and fell for the trap meme.

Masturbating without porn doesn’t work also. Been there, done that. Your dopamine levels are still shot, you still view women as sex objects, and therefore it interferes with your ability socialize with women. If you consider yourself socially impaired, it most likely has to do with PMO.

The base problem of PMO being a drug is still present even if it is just MO. This superheroin is still going to ruin your life regardless. Therefore, the process to recovery is not NoPorn, or NoSex, but no PMO altogether. “Take everything in moderation” is a very commonly heard saying. For PMO and sex, this means once a week at MOST. Anymore is sexual deviancy and will destroy your brain slowly and introduce mental weakness. Fostered racism through pornography, a mental addiction because of repetitive dopamine spikes causing your brain to adjust... these are examples of mental weaknesses. Weaknesses that I don't want in my mind and you probably don't want in yours either. If we are to improve ourselves, we have to purge this trash out.

I always tried justifying to myself that what I do to get my rocks off was only in the "porn world" and it didn't translate to the real world in any way. Boy what a load of garbage that was. If that was true, we wouldn't have stories of autists on here meeting up to fuck traps irl. Our sexual deviancies are destroying us and making us weaker, inferior people. They are also making us more docile and submissive. In a similar way to people hooking themselves on drugs and cucking themselves, PMO is a drug that will try to keep you trapped under a seemingly endless downward spiral of suffering

The effects of NoFap aren't placebo. We have a multitude of evidence to shot dopamine levels being associated with anxiety and depression, it makes sense that people will feel more "lively" when they restore their dopamine levels.

I'm not gonna give a TL;DR but I will finish by saying that PMO is ruining your life and pretending that it isn't will only further keep you cucked. Wake up and realize that it most definitely is having an impact on your real life, and start feeling good that you have recognized the problem so you can finally fix it

Phew. It felt so good to type all of this out. I hope at least some of it was coherent. Now I feel much more prepared to tackle my addiction.

For anyone still reading: Don't try to do it cold turkey. Set up small goals and then grow outwards.

Ex. If you masturbate 4 times a day, everyday, try to do 3x a day every day for a week. Then next week do 2x a day.

>You probably do not need NoFap if you are masturbating once a week

>You probably need NoFap if you masturbate once a day

>You DEFINITELY need NoFap if you masturbate 2+ times a day
No. You don't. Quit porn if you have to Masturbations perfectly healthy and fine for you.
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#General_benefits&ved=0ahUKEwjNr4Tr-ufQAhVK7yYKHdJHDMIQygQIHzAA&usg=AFQjCNEu1jw0iEzDr0quc5W8qzk4mzsNrw
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

Dude,you spawn in every single nofap thread.
What in the actual fuck,like it doesnt take 5 seconds for you to post this shit.

> Dopamine, sends a signal of pleasure.
>You get dopamine for doing nearly anything. Dopamine for eating, sleeping, getting a good grade, masturbating, and doing heroin or cocaine.

This is baby-tier understanding of neurotransmitters. Dopamine isn't "pleasure" it's a chemical that's used in a variety of pathways in the brain, and the one you're referring to is "satisfaction". The brain is very complex and you really don't have a hope of understanding it unless you've studied the latest research and tried a variety of drugs for yourself.

> Pornography degrades us.
>This entire paragraph
What the fuck have you been taking? You almost had a point and then you took a flying leap off the deep end with this Freudian crap.

Get the fuck off of Veeky Forums

porn addicts are back at it again.
geee man you almost sound like a jew.

Finally a nofap thread where everything op has said is true.
Thats why i only fap a couple hours before im going to sleep because im just burning out before i sleep and restore

Just like everything else you have to do it in moderation. Excess of anything is bad for you.

fuck off

How come nofap is always about guys u realize girls masturbate more than guys right coz they can literally start again as soon as they cum i know girls that masturbate multiple times per day

NoFap is retarded, and you're just spouting the same dumb "philosophy" that people who are afraid of sex have been for centuries.
If you're an unmotivated loser who masturbates a lot, you're not going to find motivation from quitting masturbation.
If you're genuinely addicted to masturbation and can't keep your hands out of your pants, and masturbate a few times a day or more to the point of interference in your life, you can't quit just like that, and you'll rationalize reasons why you can't or don't have to.

Another retard who believes he's some kind of visionary.

If I do no fap will my erections be harder or is that entirely dependent on cardiovascular health?

What do you think?

I dont know thats why im asking. Ive been fapping everyday for like the last 8 years

Try it and see what happens

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Nah bro its dangerous
i tried it, about 2 weeks in i was so horny that i wanted to rape every girl i saw and my standards dropped like crazy

>If you're genuinely addicted to masturbation and can't keep your hands out of your pants, and masturbate a few times a day or more to the point of interference in your life, you can't quit just like that, and you'll rationalize reasons why you can't or don't have to.
Which is exactly why NoFap is a thing you retarded motherfucker

I am a former porn addict, it has helped me immensely. You actually feel different, physically. Nofap is no bullshit

sitting home alone jerking your dick like a fucking loser is better than banging a real woman? fucking cuck

Thats not true compared to most women compared to most men. And even if it was, women dont have the desire to make much out of their lifes like men generally do, and are not looked down upon if they achieve nothing besides a family.

Just wanted to say that I've been porn free for 3~ months now, it was a bit hard first 1-2 weeks but pretty easy since.

I masturbate around once every couple of days.

That's a healthy attitude. Much better than NoFap.

>Went on Nofap
>lasted 7 days
>restarted
>almost blew yesterday
>stopped myself before it was too late
>woke up this morning with cum all over my boxers


How do I deal with wet dreams?