Is vaporizing weed bad for your health...

Is vaporizing weed bad for your health. It's established that smoking it is still bad because you're inhaling burnt material, but I can't find any reliable article about vaporizing it

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Does vaping cause you to inhale exclusively THC? because if so then its probably 100% safe

Vaporizing is healthier than smoking, but it's still not completely harmless. THC, as much as I love and adore it, does have its side effects, especially if you smoke a lot on the daily.

Anything outside of short term memory loss and impaired mobility?

Nope. Other cannabinoids too, like cannabidiol.

It definitely fucks with your sense of motivation. Some people get anxious and paranoid when they smoke. It can enable you to be perfectly okay with doing nothing, which is both a blessing and a curse.

Most importantly, if your brain is still developing, there's a number of studies showing that you may risk (mild to moderate) permanent deficits to your cognitive functioning.

All of this is coming from a guy has has been smoking daily for like five years now.

if you're an american in X legal state just get some edibles with CBD in them the buzz lasts much longer gives a better feel and also costs less

tl;dr eat weed if fatigued

Are there any major negatives, like say liver or kidney damage? IMO that's the only thing is be worried about

enjoy your schizophrenia

this. My only advice is to avoid getting TOO stoned, unless you want some future mental problems.

And trust me, you know when you're too stoned.

It's nice to smoke maybe twice a year tops. You can't socialise, go out, all you do is stay inside and eat processed food.

Ppl suggesting edibles are losers: why the fuck would you wanna stay high for 12 hours, and get hit any time between now and +4 hours?

>12 hours
>t.retard

>why the fuck would you wanna stay high for 12 hours, and get hit any time between now and +4 hours?
because if you have a whole afternoon/evening to get stoned and chill, its a lot less hassle to eat a brownie or two instead of smoking over and over.
Also its cold as fuck outside 6 months out of the year where I live so edibles are much more convenient for that too

Just make protein weed brownies that fit your macros. Don't smoke or vape. Just eat em.

brownies are extremely fattening, at least use natural peanut butter like in firecrackers

>why stay high for 12 hours and get hit at a random time?
Do you not even realize what you just said? That's what makes it fun. You take it on your rest day and make sure you have nothing you have to go out and do.

I lost all confidence after smoking daily for 5months.

Used to be full of motivation and incredibly social, then became a home bound anti-social loser, skipped classes stayed home.

Kind of like going from high test to low test

I was planning on trying out my first blunt 2 weeks from now, but I think I'll pass.

there's some reason to believe when you are vaping weed, there are small amounts being burnt (by your cheap ass vaporizer) that will contribute to very minor smoke inhalation, but other than that its as safe as eating with a quicker more concentrated buzz

lol you guys are fucking faggots. I smoke weed 3-4 times a week, i'm the most social and happy dude I know, always active, most ambitious and energetic person. Literally every single time I chill with someone they tap before I do and I'm usually stoned.

If you think weed affects anything at all that's because you haven't smoked it enough. It makes you enjoy everything much more and brings out the best in you once you get over the paranoia and learn to embrace it

Can you guys speak for someone who almost smoked himself into psychosis? I've only smoked weed one time and I smoked an absolute shit ton in one sitting, and I was in an absolute hell I could not wake up from, basically thought I was dying. You've all seen someone on a bad trip from weed before, so I don't need to explain. For the following week though, I felt completely depersonalized, like nothing was real and I was in a haze. It's something I'd rather not experience ever again. Did I just smoke too much? Did I placebo myself into it?

I've greened out before, but the worst I had was a panic attack and a headache. Slept it off

i literally smoke weed before math exams, before dates, before going to work, just learn to fucking handle it and learn to manage the intensity it brings. Lift with it. Work with it. Listen to music with it.

I don't see the point. Not interested in becoming psychologically dependent on a drug to enjoy life.

This whole thread is pathetic. Straight edge faggots scared of their own thoughts. And we call ourselves masters of our bodies? But when you are faced with another perspective of your own psyche, you get scared and come up with bullshit excuses?

>It makes me stay home
>It makes me eat processed food
>It fucks with my motivation
>Schizophrenia lol

This is really sad. You know that everything you do stoned is something you might do anyways, it's just being brought out? Man the fuck up, and face the other side of yourself. See what your brain says when you get out of the way of your own thoughts. Weed is a good drug because it's not giving you dopamine, it's not giving you seratonin or any happy chemicals. It's just loosening the reigns on your own thought processes. If that makes you scared to go out, why? Find the answer and ruminate on it. Don't be a pussy faggot and spit some bullshit about motivation - You already don't want to go to the party, weed just amplifies your fear. Why are you scared in the first place? Weed helps you answer the question.

Smoke weed.

This. The guy sounds like my friend who can't go to bed until he smokes a bowl. If that isn't mental dependency on a drug I don't know what is

No one is fucking discounting the usefulness of weed you fucking knob head, but it's people like you that give way to the existence of stoner culture, and why it's often portrayed as DUDE WEED LMAO

You're that reason

Yeah, I've also got a friend like that. He constantly insists that I should give weed a try. Almost every issue we ever talk about can be resolved by smoking cannabis, apparently...

It gets tiring after a while..

>dependency
>stoner culture
look at yourselves! You draw back to stereotypes as soon as you're presented with a conflicting opinion. Neither one of you dumbfucks has a legitimate point against pot aside from the image of a stoner everyone has had carefully placed in their heads.

People who read this thread need to know the other point of view. Someone needs to point out that the stupid shit you guys parrot about weed is really just anecdotes handed off by your parents and colleagues, or propaganda from the 70's.

Weed is great. Smoke it.

>Not wanting to become psychologically dependent on a drug to enjoy life is not a good argument against not smoking weed
>If you don't want to smoke weed is because you've been brainwashed by reefer madness
>Stoner culture is not real
>Psychological dependency can't happen on weed


Mate, stop.

If smoking causes you to be lazy and unmotivated then it isn't for you. I think it just happens to be the more typical reaction for most people.

I used to use on a regular basis and only recently quit to get clean for potential drug tests in my new job search.

For me, I enjoyed the spaced out feel and that really helped me for working out and cardio. Cannabis use never made me lazy, but I am probably in that small minority that seems to get a boost from it.

>mfw taking a few vape hits and going for a 3-4mi trail run at sub 7min pace the whole time
>mfw listening to Clutch while doing so

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I had a very similar experience bro. Im prettu sure I had way waaay too much. And I got the exact same feeling of depersonalisation/derealisation.

Feelings went on for a bout a month though and I was having trouble sleeping. Had to go on meds. 6monthd later though I'm perfectly normal again.

Weed is definately not for me.

Anybody got a good edible recipe worth trying?

This.

>I want to smoke weed
Ok, just realize the pros and cons of it

>I don't want to some weed
Ok, just know what you're missing

>A man chooses
>A slave obeys

Do people really think people get addicted to weed? Maybe a select few, but talk to someone who smokes INSANE amounts, I guarantee that they fucking love it and won't want to stop because they enjoy it. If you're scared just smoke on the weekends you pussy

Good thread, lots of good points.

Take everything you read here with a grain of salt.

I like weed, but I would also like that I could be without it more easily.

I'm on day 3 of my break from weed, been bored as fuck, had a pretty bad mood in general and I sweat like a niagara all night and see unpleasant dreams.

I have been smoking for pretty much 5 years with small breaks in between, but none of them spanning for more than 2 weeks.

I have had 2 complete meltdowns on weed, the first was a panic attack from smoking an illegal substance for the first time in questionable company. The other was me doing an experiment and taking a 0.5g bong rip after a week long brake.

I think that dependancy on weed is pretty much situnational, if I had more going on in life or more people to hang out and do things with on a daily basis, I think it would be much easier to be without. Right now I'm slowly separating myself from some slightly toxic relationships with aquantances to whom I have made a connection trough weed in the first place and when you sit in your house for the most of the time and think about where to fuck do I go from here, weed is like a comforting blaket I can wrap around myself. That is not nessecarily a good thing though.

Weed pretty much caused me to stop smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol.

>Weed is a good drug because it's not giving you dopamine, it's not giving you seratonin or any happy chemicals. It's just loosening the reigns on your own thought process

Maybe, but that does not mean that those thought patterns are worth entertaining or taking action upon. I had some insecurity, abandonment, and self-esteem issues that caused a lot of distorted thought patterns, and it really came to a head after I graduated college and started having adult obligations.

I smoked >3 times a week for a long time, and eventually it got to a point where every major decision I made was called into question. I would have invasive thoughts regarding my relationship with my girlfriend, my job, and just general beating myself up because I didn't feel like I was enough. I had always had the latter thoughts even before I smoked, but they were exacerbated with weed. I was also going through a lot of change, good and bad, in my life. Like you're saying, I thought it was my subconscious mind telling me stuff that I was afraid to hear, or whatever. Not necessarily true.

I think more often than not, when you get the scary thoughts you describe, you are just high and think stupid shit, and it's hard to tell the difference between a legitimate opportunity for improvement and a distorted thought pattern that does you no good without another perspective. In my case, I saw a therapist for about a year.

Sometimes you have to recognize that you're just high and thinking stupid. But I suppose this is one way of mastering these thoughts.

But saying weed "helps" with answering these questions is not entirely true, in my experience.

Hmm sounded just like you

Used to say the same thing, which was true, until about the 5month mark where I realized I can't enjoy anything without it and Iv become a different person

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for toking, just my daily.

Treat it like alcohol and you'll be fine.

repeat after me
>sluggish lazy stupid and unconcerned
>sluggish lazy stupid and unconcerned

I guarantee everyone advocating weed here is under 22. You could try it. It could be great, like it is for 90% of people. Or you could get unlucky and gave it fuck up your shit through psychosis, schizophrenia, anxiety, depersonalization, general loss of interest. Spend enough time in the culture and you'll meet plenty of these people. The 'dude weed lmao' people are either the lucky ones, or they're trainwrecks in the making. It really fizzles out once you leave college and people grow up.

t. ex-pothead

Okay boys listen the fuck up.

I was addicted to weed from when I was 20-26, smoking plenty of bongs a day (hello I'm australian) often with my weed spun with tobacco. Was convinced for the first few years that I wasn't addicted but for the last year or so I knew that i was definately addicted, I have a very addictive personality.

I recently scored myself a graduate job at a mine for which I needed to take a drug test as part of a medical. Now I had about 2 months till that medical which meant that to pass my urine test I needed to quit cold turkey IMMEDIATELY. I had quit a few times before for maybe a month at a time when on holiday so I knew what to expect, fucking terrible dreams and sweating in your sleep, shocking mood swings and pushing people close to you away as you went through heavy withdrawls. Now this job was very very important to me, since finishing a mining engineering degree at uni I hadn't been able to score an engineering job due to poor grades (smoked too much weed at uni) and generally piss poor attitude to job hunting. I had been working in admin at a small company in my home town making decent coin (I'm fairly charismatic and smart so this was piss easy) but was bored shitless and sick of the same low IQ small town people that I had been hanging out with, partying with and taking drugs with for the past two years (yes this included fucking plenty of attractive girls, however if you ask me seriously my biggest regret is cheating on my 10/10 lawyer girlfriend who wouldn't take me back afterwards because I was a dropkick stoner who wouldn't change his ways for her).

Anyway fastforward through those two months, after a massive detox and facing all the withdrawls I managed to pass my drug test and have just been accepted to the job. Fantastic. The plus side of this is that I can't smoke weed now because we can be spot tested at any point and regularly do medicals every 3-6 months. Now im going to list all the amazing benefits since i quit (con't)

My LIFTS HAVE GONE UP DRAMATICLY. Like its stupid how strong I have become in comparison to when i was smoking, and this is only two and a half months, lifts are increasing every week.

I was lifting the entire time i was smoking but half heartedly and doing shitty bodybuilding splits but still squatting and deadlifting. My squat had stalled at like 110kg and deadlift at 140kg (x3 for both) but i was such a lazy pussy I never tried to progress further, my body was good enough to pull chicks and I was still fairly built so I didn't care.

In the last two months I have had crazy amounts of energy, focused all the energy and frustration from quitting bud into lifting, sorted out my supplementation and started a serious program (boring but big variation). I am now squatting 130kg and deadlifting 160kg easy for reps of 3. I've put on 2kg of solid muscle, up from 79-80kg to 82-83kg with a bit of extra fat for my girl to hold when i FUCK THE ABSOLUTE SNOT OUT OF HER with my dramaticly increased libido and stamina.

Anyway, you faggots should all stop smoking weed and lying to yourself that its fine to do so. I was one of you for 6 years and have just found the light, best thing I've ever done.

Peace

Feel free to ask any questions about my experience. I don't post here often but used to lurk all the time when I was bored at uni, but I'm happy to hang around and help out if I can.

Good on you mate. I took a year long break from school because I was fucking around too much, and I'm going to be steaight edge when I go back. I wasted way too much time being high

Cheers mate. For sure thats a good idea, if i could timetravel id go back and tell 18 year old me when I moved straight from school to uni in Sydney to just take a couple of years off to get all the partying and bullshit out of my system before focusing on kicking goals in life. We're all gonna make it.

Wow, everybody here making such a big deal out of it. It isn't all that complicated, just find out if you like it or not and dont overdo it brah.
Vaping is toptier too

Enjoy it in social situations, just don't let yourself become a stoner...

> Do people really think people get addicted to weed? Maybe a select few, but
> talk to someone who smokes INSANE amounts, I guarantee that they fucking love it and won't want to stop because they enjoy it.

Are you clinically retarded, mate? Better be an inception-level roll.

Ever tried not being an addict? Everything needs balance and you finally found it by not smoking weed.
Not the same for everybody.
I probably haven't smoked in about 3 weeks. I have a quarter in my draw so its not like I can't.
Have a good gf, decent grades. Your lifts do suffer but not as badly as alchohol.
Why should I stop faggot

so I don't lift because I like swimming a lot more. I swim 2k meters every other day during school and daily on breaks (like right now).

I used to bong smoke daily but eventually I was getting nasty coughs and horrible flem in my mouth when I swam so I bought a vape and the difference is night and day. The highs feel less "Hazy" and it's easier to concentrate. This is anecdotal and I make no claims about the long term effects or science about it.

I smoke a bowl before I swim every day and it makes the whole experience more fun. I'm certainly "addicted" in the sense that I don't like quitting when I don't have to but when I'm forced to get real (like take a test or do an interview)

I don't get how you people have serious withdrawls. Daily stoner here, quitting makes me sleep worse for like 2 days and it's back to normal lmao.

wtf I hate weed now.

seen exactly this with one of my flatmates

>7/10 face semi/fit/ alpha guy
>funny, energetic, total bro
>getting pussy every weekend
>started dating a pothead grill
>started getting stoned at least once a week
>broke up with the grill, he didn't seem to care
>still he ramped up the smoking
>got fat
>slowly mutated into an antisocial nerd that plays vidya all day long
>boring, no drive whatsoever, kinda cranky when he is not stoned, not a bro anymore
>he now reminisces about when he "could get any girl he wanted"
>that was just 4 years ago

pot, not even once