/fraud/ teens

just natty fearmongering

look at, like u said, all the pros, who are both fine and also using YEAR ROUND 100x the dosages that normal people will ever use

nice to see some good old delusion

burnthefatblog.com/if-it-fits-your-macros-iifym-revisited.php

symmetricstrength.com/

no

you dont want to use gear as an excuse to eat like shit

while you can still get results aesthetically, your health might go to trash

gear already fucks with your cholesterol.

my friend was using like 1/3-1/4 my dosages and has a worse cholesterol than me, because he eats like shit and i eat perfect. i just tested my cholesterol after using tren for like 5-6 months and it was good... meanwhile he was just on like 600 test and he is fucked

so do you think using juice on teenagers wont be that dangerous, especially at relatively low doses?

i cant find alot of studies on this tbqh

>linking me the iifym meme

Dude, I've been cycling for years and I'm telling you that David, without a shadow of a doubt, is on gear. Please stop deluding yourself.

no one gives a shit about lifting numbers

you will never look good natty

yeah, depends on the steroid. test is pretty mild. tren will fuck up your lipids if you eat like an idiot. what you need is good support (megadosing fishoil, coq10, etc.) in order to minimize the damage

dangerous in what regard, it effects a lot of shit that is completely unrelated to eachother

but the "too young" thing is only a meme unless you are talking like under 18 years old, because literal kids shouldn't be fucking with illegal chemicals anyway just out of common sense since they probably don't know what kind of commitment it is

the thing is though EVERYONE when starting gear except for the genetically super lucky will get fucked up estrogen and need to learn to control it. but high estrogen will seal your growth plates permanently. so if the guy is satisfied with his height there is no reason not to start as long as he accepts the risks (which are extremely exaggerated by the media/normal people)

funny thing is i didn't even take fish oil or any supplements, and my health markers were all basically perfect. gear was legit too, no question about it.

so it all comes down to personal choice?
i imagine if you use proper PCT (or just B&C) the estrogen levels would stay down

would doing this approach mitigate the side effects? (like epiphysial plates, acne etc?)

probably genetics

again the only permanent thing you could possibly regret forever (as in, you roid then 4 weeks later decide to come off because it's not for you) is the sealing of your growth plates. you wont care your cholesterol is fucked up for a few weeks, or that your blood pressure was high for a little bit, since those will just come back down. but the height thing can leave you forever wondering if you could've been taller (again, only if you are not satisfied with your current height)

the second you inject exogenous test you are gonna raise your estrogen, no one knows by how much until they try it themselves, everyone's different. some people need ai on 100mg of test, some people don't need it at even a gram (like bimbo).

pct and b&c has nothing to do with that since that shit would come into play only after the point that your plates would be sealed

every side effect is completely individual also, but you have to think about them all and accept them potentially happening before you roid, since you might get all of them, you might get none of them. there's no way to tell until you try. but you don't want to start roiding expecting no sides and then regret it because as it turns out you get bad side effects from it

To yourself maybe not.
To normies? Get a six pack, chest, arms, and you're set

you can look "good" to fat fucks and young girls that like justin bieber, but you will never turn heads or make people look twice

I'm running 400mg a week of test, on week 4, and have to take 10mg of aromasin every damn day just to keep my nipples from being sore

prove it

>xD

imbeciles like this are how the fitness industry exists

probably spends hundreds on "supplements" and "routines" endorsed by youtube natties

>the "too young" thing is only a meme unless you are talking like under 18 years old

Thats literally what the entire thread is about, sideeffects of young teens using steroids.

the guy i replied to said teenager

Carry on then.

Genetics play an extremely complicated and enigmatic role in determining your development, and there are many, many hormonal processes that are at play.

It wouldn't make all kids look like Jeff Seid or Zyzz if they juiced from age 8. You know how Jeff's dad is a pretty good looking, manly, tall guy? He didn't have juice at age 13 like Jeff, but he turned out the way he did