What's the deal with no fap?

seams liike a waste of time. last time I didnt jerk it was on vacation with a bunch of buddies, and I didnt feel like jerkin in the shower. eventually I met a chick and had a steady lay, but before that I would get wet dreams every night, was real fucking annoying

yeah me too. i know some people dont get them but i get them all the time if i dont wank

>No Fap is a ruse.
no it isn't because most (all) guys will continue to fap thinking of porn and that's the same thing releasing all that undeserved dopamine

Doing both and failing at Nofap, but I'm going to keep going.

Placebo

But if the placebo works in this case.... Does it really matter?

I've done noporn before. It's definitely better. I never really got into porn until probably college desu. First time watching porn was in hs at 15

What do you guys count as porn?

Just not looking up videos and stuff? And not leering at lewd asses you see on Veeky Forums and stuff? Seems impossible to cut all nudity

No nudity. No nipples, no naked bodies. If a butt is there w/e, I see plenty of bare butts in public.

Yeah that makes sense. Not gonna count it as a relapse if I see a nipple by accident or something though, given that I spend a decent amount of time on Veeky Forums

You can look at it it's w/e, but if you fap to it then you fucked up.

Well..
Real, drawn or cg stuff is all on the same level.
No sex of any kind.
Girls masturbating...is out
No hardcore nudity, nipples, naked pussy, bare ass that's lifted as if she's presenting her sex to the camera.
No fully clothed simulated sex.

I allow bikini stuff, tasteful non nips or pussy showing nudes and the occasional bare ass without cunny in view.
But lately that stuff is starting to make me randy and I've found myself getting full stone and reaching for my dick when I see what is a perfectly innocent partially clothed pic of a femanon in a /cbt/ thread.

So...I might have to hide more then a few threads now.

>tfw getting a semi just reading about the stuff I'm not allowed to look at

fuck this is gonna suck

My role models are all banging their hot wives

>tfw role model is my dad

Nofap is a brain reset. It allows your limbic system to rewire yourself to crave things other than masturbation. You have a limited amount of motivation to spend. Why waste any of it on masturbation? Do you want to be an average Joe for the rest of your life? Or do you want to go full Jewish-Japanese-British mode and become a modern Renaissance man?

Ask your dad if he masturbates. Post results.

So you're telling me I'm not allowed to look at drawn 2D men with perfectly sculpted bodies in poorly translated fujoshit manga's with the ability to ejaculate excess amounts of cum in quick succession whilst also looking like they've attained a nirvana only 105 year old Buddhist monks can attain and have the virility of bunnies on viagra because it's apparently unhealthy for me?

Why don't you just fucking kill me now?

Nofap doesn't work for gays.

Why is this?

What the fuck?
Look
If you consider it pornographic or heavily sexual and use it to masturbate, then you shouldn't use it.
That's the point.

>Is no fap just a meme?
Yes
>Will I notice a difference?
No
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

Gays are too broken and lustful to behave normally.

Why the fuck not?

>Uses porn of attractive people that I enjoy
>Uses a specific subsidary of porn revolving around virility, rough passionate yet caring sex
>Condition my brain to only become attracted to attractive people and to perform such actions

Sorry I don't want to end up like that beta orbiter in that movie Jessica's Body who's having extremely poor sex while his GF is having nightmare visions

>does constantly draining my body of the nutrients vitamins and other chemicals that are most precious to its survival have any negative effects?
Does not happen

What in gods name are you fucktarding on about?

Reported for spam

you're probably young. when i was like 20, maybe 21 i got hard at everything, i'd get hard on the bus. now it's w/e at 23.

Everyone is a renaissance man these days. I built a multimillion dollar startup and won awards in a separate field all while masturbating. It was a team effort, but we still succeeded. And personally was in the NYT. Fapped a fair amount through all of that. The greatest high was being in NYT though.

all by age 22. while jerking the hell out of my pickle.

Your testosterone levels will raise ever so slightly after going three weeks without ejaculating. This means not have sex or masturbating, but people on Veeky Forums ARE SUCH PATHETIC FUCKING LOSERS that they think ejaculating is only done through masturbation, hence "NoFAP".

Go to Examine dot com and read the research and investigation done into it. The difference is so miniscule it's laughable to put any effort into such a fruitless endeavor.

Besides people not as pathetic as a regular fitizen could never adhere to such a ridiculous schedule since even relatively normal people have gfs and fuck at least once before three weeks has passed.

Only Veeky Forums could be so naive and cringeworthingly unloveable that they would ever think of attempting to not ejaculate for three weeks because an intimate relationship, where you are expected to make love to your partner on a regular basis, is completely beyond their expectations.

>Real science that debunks a pseudoscientific meme is spam

most of us agree that the porn is worse than fapping though. the internet is so new that we have no idea how it will affect people in decades to come

I think jerking off is fine as long as you're not constantly doing it. Porn is the real problem because it really does warp your mind.

My question is that if I don't use pron to jerk off then what do I use, my mind? Like what do I think of?

Is it cheating if I think about a porn video I watched a long time ago?

It's not real science.
It's a bunch of blog posts where some retard misrepresents science he doesn't understand and a couple of second hand articles that have nothing to do with anything.

They've actually been studying the effects of highspeed porn on the minds of people and we have been seeing the effects. All of us.
It's being noted and talked about with only the people who are making money and depend on the altered frame of mind that this new thing creates.

Yeah, NoPorn, I can get behind. Too much dopamine from any subject over time can disinterest you from that subject. NoFap is something different though. Two different subjects. It makes me sad when I see people talk about how great NoFap is. If only they could see what their life truly looks like to others, they wouldn't be so proud of it.

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Technically does happen just not in the manner claimed by the user I responded to and only in miniscule amounts easily replenished by eating

Well apparently having orgasm basically depletes zinc which, if done alone, is done without any sort of psychological compensation coming from the human contact you would get during sex.

Considering many people are zinc deficient it might explain the effect some people have. If there's an hormonal component to this I don't know.

You can relearn to jerk off without porn, I'm sure you used to when you were a lot younger. Take a break for a few days and the first couple of times don't prolong anything just go for the gold. Thinking about old videos or encounters is fair game, wherever your mind takes you.

It gets easier the more you practice, forces you to concentrate on your bodies sensations which made sex better, for me at least.

No
Fap once a week with no porn for health benefits
Sex is beneficial because you need to work for it, fapping is only good if you're not having sex and dont want prostate cancer

who cares

I'm on day 19 of nofap.

I have watched a lot of porn today though. I want to jerk off but, I know if I do I'll feel like a sad loser.

>It's not real science.
>This level of projection
>It's a bunch of blog posts where some retard misrepresents science he doesn't understand and a couple of second hand articles that have nothing to do with anything.
If you actually believe what you just posted not only can you not read you know jack shut about biology and have no my posts have nothing to do with anything, especially since the they have very much to do with debunking. no gaps bogus claims and detail things that fapping actually does

*have no right to say my posts

no offense, but do you not feel like a loser from watching porn? I don't think it's necessarily a loser thing but most nofappers try to avoid porn for good reason

It's not ever so slightly. It's a noticeable amount that stays elevated for as long as you abstain.

But that's not the only reason.
It makes your body more receptive to your own testosterone while lowering estrogen.
It rewires our brains away from porn and towards women.

Jacking off is nothing compared to spearing the warm waiting vulnerable sex of a willing attractive woman.
The need and agression and lust being wasted on porn will all be spent, splurged inside of a victi...I mean partner who we lure into our or their beds.
It's also noted that there is a small spike in test and well being if we have satisfactory bareback sex with a willing female partner.
It's also been noted that a woman getting a massive wad of hot love sauce pumped into her during pleasurable sex that has an effect on her well being that is greater then heroine and the most potent mood elevators on the market. Especially if it is before after or during an orgasm.

No fap is for more then just self control, empowerment, reconnecting with what it means to be a man and breaking free from the chains of control that the mystique of excess porn and "self love" has trapped us in.
It's also to rediscover our true love and lust for women.

I like to jerk off to JOI milf/mature videos.

Is that weird. Like I don't find my mom attractive, but I just want to fuck a milf. The thing is that in the vids the "mom" is always saying shit like "ohhhh yeah fuck mommies pussy" and "fill me up with your cum, son"

So yeah it kinda makes me feel strange.

Yeah I guess your right. Last time I jerked off to a chubby girl masturbating in the shower.

I felt so dirty afterwards.
Fuck is wrong with me?

I love JOI but it's the reason I decided to do nofap. Wanna stop watching that shit before I can't get off without the girl telling me what to do.

Plus too much of it is CEI / making fun of small dicks/ general being a bitch.

[spoiler]Xev Bellringer is so fucking hot, she could give anyone a milf fetish tbqh[/spoiler]

i wanna stop jerking but i always end up looking up porn because i can't get laid. Tons of girls especially ages 18 to mid 20s are out having hot sex, sucking dick, getting fucked, etc. What the fuck man? Barely any girls respond to me on dating sites and apps. And when they do they never wanna fuck and claim they "arent here for hook ups". It's like only a small percentage of people actually want to have fun and fuck. Am i just unlucky? whats going on?

Someone on /b/ said that shes actually having a baby, so Xev will most likely pump out some preggo vids.

Not sure if it's 100% true though.

I made the zinc post and the underlying message was: jerking off is fine if you have enough zinc.

Can I work for you? I have a degree from UC Berkeley but I'm poor, hungry, and desperate.

Why does this board have no-fap threads multiple times a day

How is it possible to talk about masturbating with other guys this frequently

I watch milf vids. I think it's actually become a problem. Umm. Hmm. I was always attracted to women two grades above me, pretty much always, but as an adult I get tons of attention from middle aged women who are good looking, as I'm sure every young guy does and I guess I kind of got too into it.

I'm not even attracted to women my age. Not without an emotional connection. Fuck. You opened my eyes a bit. I think I just spent too much time with older women as I tried to mature as a person in college.

>Why does this board have no-fap threads multiple times a day
Because pseudoscience shitposters want threads on Veeky Forums to be their safe space

Yeah dude, you have your whole life ahead of you for older women, focus on the younger ones while you still can get away with it

meme

Veeky Forums tends to overestimate this sort of thing. I've been in the frat life and hung out in sorority houses overnight. At one of the biggest party schools in the country. It's not like the movies, don't buy the lie, and the (actual) 8+/10 women actually don't have that much anonymous sex. You'd be surprised--they prefer to chill and watch shitty tv shows more than le party and le get fucked up.

kek I have a degree from a cal state and I'm poor because I got near life-ending illnesses for the past two years.

It's a startup. I would offer but I don't want to refer a guy from 4chin. Also I don't really work with them that much anymore, startups are tricky, its easy to lose years of your life and get nothing in return. I think I maximized my profit, for now at least, I'd like to go corporate and then hope they take me back. It's so fucking complicated dude I have no idea what to do. Nobody I know knows anything about startups, nobody's succeeded like I have (in my extended circles). Fuck, it sucks.

also tinder is dead, have you looked at the girls on there? yeesh

dude do you know how many pics ive seen on Veeky Forums of girls sucking a guys dick or getting fucked? Or what about the college porn dorm sites you see? I have hundreds of images of when a girl is sucking a guys dick and the guy took a pic of it. I'd argue that more sex is going on then we are aware of because you dont see out in public what people are doing inside their homes. It's like there's some secret cult of women out there that wanna fuck and suck so badly. So where do we find them? Or are they just like the women you and I see on any ol day out in public and they just suck and fuck CHAD? I really believe the saying that 10% of men fuck 90% of women.

Because it's a constant struggle at first.

You are dealing with numbers of people so massive that you can't comprehend them. Let me break the numbers down so you really understand what is going on.
There are roughly 11 million (the number is probably higher, I'm not bothering to find the real data, only the ballpark) women in college in the US.
11 million women. That's a bigger population than the city I live in (Chicago).
Let's say 0.5% of them are whores and are fine with images of them having sex being taken. That's 55,000 unique individuals producing porn that are between the ages of 18 and 25. That is a shitload of content creation going on, by a tiny fragment of the population.
>what about the college porn dorm sites you see?
Porn is entertainment user. Expecting any of that shit to have any element of realism is like treating LOST as a documentary on island living.

not sure if satire. chads arent real, chads have feelings too. there are fake chads, who fuck average to below average girls with bad teeth and fat rolls, but there are not hundreds of jake gyllenhall type men fucking margot robbie and angelina jolie and jennifer aniston tier women on the reg. Trust me. It's not like that.

You wanna get your dick wet find parties, go to them, talk to a girl no one is talking to who feels loose and is less than good looking, rinse and repeat. Otherwise like everyone else you play the long con and see what the tide brings in while you go and live your life.

This. Do you think your heros sit on Veeky Forums every night jerking off?

Nope. THEY FUCK REAL WOMEN.

But hey keep justifying your love of pixel hos and cumming into a fake vagina you weirdos.

Bro, just do what I do bro, like fap just once or twice a week so you can heal your recoveries in the meantime. You can slightly raise test and then it peaks after a week or so and you can get it back later again bro.

This is great and true. Get your manhood back buds.

My heros are all Chad mode.

I'm a insecure, skelly, manlet with an ugly face, no social skills, and no direction in life.

How the fuck am I gonna get laid or find a girl that actually loves me?

better get to sucking those dicks

As much as you are fapping you will notice it. Just quit fapping for 2-3 weeks and see how it feels. it's not a meme

>tfw nofap since ny
>tfw wet dreams 2 times as of now

Let me sleep in peace dammit

Porn is a form of control, stop it. Fapping will go down naturally after this.

How do you guys jerk off without porn, I don't really have anything in the wank bank

Holy shit, usually wikipedia at least pretends to be unbiased

There definitely are problems associated with masturbation that they straight up ignore, while they take every opportunity to find every good thing related to it

God what a faggot. I've banged out literally over two dozen women, jerk off usually once a day, and just got promoted at work and will be managing even more people than I was before. No idea what the hell you're on about. I'm definitely in control of my life

I think the issue with you faggots is you have too much shame. You think

>Woe is me, I touched my peepee now I can't look a girl in the eye. Baby, sad :'(

I jerk off because I like it. I talk to girls because I like fucking them. I was even married for 5 years, so I don't know how stroking one out is destroying your peoples ability to live a fucking life.

You people are helpless pussies, and I doubt not touching your dick is gonna save you. You'll just look for the next excuse to be fucking mediocre.

This is true.Anyone that has tried nofap for a long period of time can feel the differences
>inb4 placebo
lmao

Actually you were married for 9 years, Brendan

Day 248 of nofap here. Felling better than ever, but the urge is there and I can't take it anymore. I feel like busting!

Me too nigga

This so fucking much

These niggas think people who have been watching hi def anal porn for years are suddendly gonnna fap to a chick at work in a sweater?

Are you guys like addicts who go on a masturbation binge if they falter? Like alcoholics that can't just have one beer?
I just jack it once a week to relieve the tension. Feels great if you do it so little.
Of course on the day of the Lord.
Sunday masturbation day.

lol wtf why is this thread still here?

also yeah i think it's mostly a shame thing. im on day 3 and im horny but i still feel like shit. i fap and i feel good about it. w/e.

stop being autistic ffs. nofap is a mean of forcing you to have sex with girls instead of using your hand. Is it so hard to understand or do you take to much time counting your chromosomes ?

Why is ejaculating so bad for you? Alcohol is literally poison. There's a difference.

like what?

See I feel like this is reasonable but people are like no you're missing out.

Well, not a sweater

>role model is Zyzz
>Zyzz is ded

Fuck off

If you jerk off more than once every 1-2 days you should jerk off less, you don't need to stop jerking off completely though. Unless you can't moderate yourself, you might as well be a fatty at that point.