Will his videos actually help your game or are they a waste of time?

>i like their personalities and want them to rub off on me
Not how it works, m8. All you're doing is cultivating a false sense of self dependent on the faulty perception you have of others.

I used to study the pick up stuff too, and all it got me was fucking below average chicks for a couple years. But once I got involved with shit I actually wanted to do, it's become much more fulfilling which in turn makes me more attractive overall.

You have your own personality, whether or not you express it. Don't try and have others create it for you

Both PUA's and redpill shit have good theories at their core, but have been taken too far. Work on yourself, be confident without being a douche and don't put pussy on a pedestal.

Women are however, despite what most of these aspies try to teach you, not trash. They are just humans like you and me. There are shitty ones and good ones. Just work on yourself and stay true to what's important to. The pussy will then come by itself.

there is literal heaps of evidence that surrounding yourself with successful people makes it rub off on you and so carefully chosing who you hang out with fore the purpose of them positively changing your personality is a smart way to self improve which is something all men should be doing constantly.

hell yeah brother im gonna work my ass and get my shit together just so i can "game" some trashy used up chick with tons of mental issues. then i can brag to my internet friends that I fucked her for 15mins missionary style
awwwwwwwwwww yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
pounded that slut real good brothers
PUA FTW

they dont teach you women are trash lmao, they say exactly what you just said.

>game only works on trashy mental sluts

confirmed for never having done pickup or understanding girls

neither of you have sources so i dont know who to believe. nontheless i think i'll continue watching great men because i do feel like its helping a bit with being charming or responsive socially. i wouldnt say im trying to have others create my personality, im a pretty grounded person

Listening to podcasts is not "hanging out", you fucking sperg. You're not having a back and forth with these people learning from them as your issues need to be addressed, you're being talked to

oh of course not brother. the script and kino WORKS on successful woman like yourself that watches videos on how to pickup men

youtu.be/Uf-_-CuetzM

Basic game works
Can confirm as it got me my first gf 3 years ago

plz respond

youtu.be/EFnJMPQow7A

Game is a lie

I find it ironic that the people who complain about "normies" who set up strawmans to put down those who lift to better themselves.
>they're just meat heads they are retarded cus they work out xd

and now these same people are creating false images of what PUA is just to tear otherse down. its sad
>Both PUA's and redpill shit have good theories at their core, but have been taken too far. Work on yourself, be confident without being a douche and don't put pussy on a pedestal.

like bro thats exactly what they preach in RSD why are you acting like you know anything about it bruh you just showed you have never watched any of their shit or read any of their advice

If there's only Robin and no Nightwing in this one, I'll be pissed

get basic social skills.
get some new friends.
go out to shit tier house parties and just talk to people.
Just talk to people.

or you could stop being a retard and just do this
youtube.com/watch?v=pOjIDQ95pp4

>people unironically believing in redpill "theories"
yet you think sociology is bs

You don't talk to giving strangers user. That's not how normal people fucking meet.

It's not his fault you are fucking ugly/autist

Pretty much this. Idk why people treat women like they're some sort of different species.

Who cares? Fuck off to another board. Or better, back to ledd.it

love these videos, put one on over dinner at christmas and redpilled the family

because not everyone wants to wait for how "normal people meet" and want the ability to get women and get sex from them. your own self made limit "dont talk to strangers" is not what most men want.

how do i get social skills and friends?

I'm in my late 20s, feel like any friends i make my age will only have parties with other couples

You don't. This whole "numbers game" meme is bullshit. You don't improve your social skills by chatting up complete strangers when there's no plausible deniability (i.e. the only reason you would talk to her is you want to fuck her). You get to know women by making female friends and expanding your circle. On the way you pick up how to get along with women platonically, and you create opportunities to meet hot ones *in situations where it is appropriate if not expected to chat them up*.

You can do it this way, the socially competent, un-alarming CHAD way. Or you can go full autist, refuse to make friends and set yourself up for failure by trying to make a connection with complete strangers on public transport (really just a bigger version of the elevator situation) where the game is always going to be stacked against you:
>it's kind of weird to meet all these people and not greet any of them, I hate riding the train/bus
>this is kind of a vulnerable position for me as a womyn, I sure hope no man starts getting into my personal space
>oh shit, one of them has locked on. he's acting shifty, he's nervous, is he trying to sell me something? is he trying to steal my purse?
>my phone number?? why would I give some stranger my phone number?

"PUA" is like trying to ride a unicycle down a hill to a slut from tinder, when there's a fucking bicycle club with hot female members around the next corner and all you'd have to do is walk there and get to know everyone.

The only PUA that I've seen give solid advice is Rooshv, check out his old stuff before he went all political.

Though, at the end of the ay what matters the most is approaching and approaching until you learn and get better.

god i never knew fit was filled with pussies

just cus u cant fucking approach a stranger doesnt mean its impossible

People don't want to be fucking bothered when they're on the train or trying to do their own shit. How would you feel if some old lady wouldn't shut the fuck up when you're trying to get to work?
If you want to have that type of encounter, go to a club or a bar. People are expecting that type of encounter there and will be more receptive to random approaches.

Or maybe showing up and being attractive enough in her opinion got you your first gf, and PUA is neurotic placebo bullshit.

i dont give a FUCK if i bother someone u nigger. ive gotten numbers from day approaching and im not even good at this shit. go fuck yourself you god damn crab in a bucket mental manlet

>will a skinnyfat Norwooding manlet scam artist who uses actresses and hookers to pretend he slays help your ""game""
really strains my brain

>Take a class.
Cooking, martial arts(BJJ at least imo), dance, it doesn't matter.
> Community College classes.
wide range of ages and people.
> Meetup.com
Literally what it sounds like.
> Social/community events and fundraisers that interest you.

you seem mad maybe you should call one of those girls you met to relax you!

I can and I have plenty of times until I realized it's a fucking waste of time and you don't need to put yourself through all that rejection for slim odds.

Even the top fags in PUA will tell you that most women will say no (to them!). Even the top fags in PUA admit that the only easy crowd in PUA is drunk club sluts, every other "target" has an extremely low success rate.

Stay a tryhard autist refusing to build an actual social circle. It's your loss.

you're right im mad. people like you can have something explained to you in the best way possible and still deny it because in the end you dont believe in yourself and want to keep following whoever is the fad at the moment .

you are a mental manlet

It's a performance, and a pretty silly one at that

You consider that guy a "great man"? Holy hell dude, that's pathetic.

woah m8 more projection. you really need to call one of those ladies that you've impress with your "game"

you can even show us how she responds to your text and educate the board on how 2 score women!

t. sub8

I don't know what that means.

It's good to learn if you don't understand how a normal "cool' person behaves and thinks. They teach you that. You just have to practice it

Most of their videos say the same things in different ways. They helped me immensely from being a shut in gamer nerd that went to the gym to a social guy that went to the gym. When I was actively trying to get girls the best I did was have 3 girls in rotation.

Now I have a gf for 4 years and have better things to spend my time on. I still watch their videos from time to time as a lot of it can be applied to things other than women

Once you dig past the rehearsed routines and shit, the PUA stuff will ultimately tell you what you already knew all along. Women prefer high value men.

we know

Ugly autists

This should be fucking stickied. Idk why people find it so fucking hard to understand this.

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Let's be serious for a second. what is this PUA shit all about? It can't be hard to get a cute gf. It can't be that hard to seduce a random girl for one night now and then. Yes it is hard to get a hot gf way out of your league, yes it is hard to lay dimes every night, it will still be hard no matter how much time you spend studying women.

>It can't be hard to get a cute gf.
I'm a 30 year old kv, how do i get one??

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I disagree m80 at the end of the ay what matters is the lmao

>find a cute girl that likes you
>hang around her a lot
>ask her to be your gf

That simple, srsly.

breh that's how i get laid. i just chat with them in a playful flirty manner. there's no tricks to it. im not trying to trick them into sleeping with me. i just make them comfortable around me and like me. that's it.

>find a cute girl that likes you

Stuck on this step.

Brute force it. Ask all the cute girls in your live if they like you. Note how i said >find a cute girl that likes you; not make a cute girl like you. Chances are there are already one or more girls in your life that like you.

i have zero friends

there are no girls in my life

Where did it all go so wrong?

I watched a lot of his videos
In the end I concluded that I dont want to apply those dynamics and play all these weird games, I just want to have a social life and be normal
And obviously that cant ever happen
Who the hell wants to go to a club and talk to 50 people anyway?

I just concluded that if I was a valuable and worthwhile person I wouldnt be trying to figure it out and it would have come naturally, im just garbage

i don't know, being autistic and alone all the time didn't help ;_;

this is totally fucking wrong though you LARPing stay-at-home cuck

You should get that sorted before worrying about gf's.

Just focus on yourself and ask what you can bring to the table

Do men really get so desperate that they "approach" women in public places and think PUA's are "great men"? That's just sad

how though?

how do i get things to bring to the table?

Original user here, I wasn't being completely serious. If I were to respond seriously it would be that I'm stuck at the "hang out with them" part. I have friends, I go out, but I put on this really bad pokerface when it comes to being attracted to a girl. I don't allow them to reject me, so nothing ever happens.

Also, solid advice to autism-meme-user there
Same advice I would give my younger self. Don't even worry about sex and relationships until you have some female friends.

Yes and yes.

His work literally changed my life after a brutal breakup. The thing with this stuff is you have to want it. A painful event to catapult you sure helps.

But again, you have to really want change. Otherwise you will just end up an angry, bitter, hater like many in this thread.

Two girls smiled at me in public this week.
One when I sat down opposite to her on the bus, the other when I was at the grocery store. Course it shocked me and I didn't to anything with it because I'm a sperg, but if I had known game and been more confident I'm pretty sure I could have gotten somewhere.
So the "don't ever talk to women you don't know in public" sounds like white knighting by redditors who are so afraid to bother womyn that they screw themselves over.
Plus getting female friends before trying to get a girl sounds like a surefire way to friendzone yourself. Besides men and women can't actually be friends in the firstplace. Ask any man who lived prior to 1970.

Same

I don't put women on a pedestal, but at the same time I have to ask - what do I have to offer? I'm not very attractive, I'm not wealthy. There's no such thing as a woman "loving you for you" like I believed as a teenager.

So what are they supposed to love, my intelligence? Fuck off

I'll just be alone forever and chase money

bump

how do i get friends in the first place?

Take an interest in the people you meet. Ask them questions about themselves. Nothing too personal at the start, just get the ball rolling, and if they ask you back answer honestly.

Maybe your problem is that you're stuck in a "lonely routine", you don't meet any people. In that case you would have to find some activity that you enjoy and that can be done with others, like a sport or craft or learning something in a course (like cooking). Opportunities to meet people.

>he actually believes this
You have no game because you don't even understand the game rules