Manliness/fighting

Never get in a fight with someone with nothing to lose. Plus street people do not follow polite societies rules for fighting. Life or death for them.

Keep walking don't engage never turn your back keep at least 1 meter away 2 if you can..

Christ, dude. You...you wanna come over? I got beer.

Im fucking afraid of ending up unconscious in the floor.
youtu.be/xbfVfGQVCmI

Knowing how to defend yourself is good and a definite self confidence builder, but ....

You really don't want to be engaging with people who have nothing to lose. You could have gotten stabbed.

After he swung at you, you could have backed off, called the PoPo and had a front row seat for him getting a but whopping and removal from your area.

I do feel you for someone messing with your dog though. That would be hard to let go.

If you're not afraid of fighting you're fucking dumb and you are the kind of guy who will get into too many fights and be fucked up. Wanderlei Silva would get butterflies before his fights.

That fear is what makes you careful. What you have to do is train something until it becomes second nature. I was afraid as fuck of fighting and even though I trained I thought I would never get into any. Until someone punched me, training kicked in, I threw a hook to his liver, a cross to his chin and that was it. I wasn't afraid at that moment, it was automatic. I was afraid right after that though, wondering about the consequences.

Just pick a martial art, practice, spar and live on.

train your dog to go for the throat next time so you don't have to dirty your hands fighting hobos.

Worst part is now I feel angry and want to meet this fucker again and knock him down. I'm not a fucking man, dudes.

moral of my story: sometimes you lose even winning

>being angry that some foreigner hurt a member of your family or at least your property
>not manly

you're fucking stupid if you think you're unmanly for that.

>A court/jury ACTUALLY BELIEVED that the grad student, and not the crazy homeless man with no reason to even be there, instigated the problems

If true, please tell me what city this was in, so I can avoid so much as stepping foot in that place for the rest of my life.

Good MMA training, cross trained with pure BJJ (without and without the gi) will change your lives hombres.

I believe it isn't manly to act the way I did, with that much fear. A man gets shit done at the moment, not days after.
youtu.be/0oh25XDwWfw

You go to a more practical fighting discipline that does sparring. Do some sparring and get used to being stuck in a ring with someone trying to punch you in the face, get used to actually being punched in the face. After a while you'll get more use to it, maybe not feeling 'calm' but being use to the feeling of adrenaline. Ideally adrenaline is suppose to help you fight, no hinder you.

Colorado Springs, the report my neighbor gave police pretty much made it an open and shut case. No witnesses when he attacked me but multiple people heard me yell and then followed by a "vicious bodyslam" i think is what he called it. To be fair, I think the guy actually told them what he saw.. just wish he had came a few seconds earlier

I will catch some heat for this, but Aikido + a little bit of striking & grappling skill is pretty sweet spot.

Street fight haymakers are literally custom made for Aikido throws & joint manipulations (goodbye wrist).

BJJ is great, but do you really want to be going to the ground and getting your head stomped by your opponents friend ?

you're right, you should have pulled your ccw and said he needs to stop assaulting you.

but now theres nothing to do but be angry and then cool off.

Also the guy I killed was never even able to give a statement because he never regained conciousness. My word vs 2-3 others with a state appointed lawyer and $35 in my pocket.. took the plea

A guy kicked your dog and you didn't immediately murder him in the most savage way possible? You didn't deserve to win OP.
He was even homeless, you could have gotten away with it.

Thats a good advice, man, I used to train boxing but never sparred with no one, just hit the bag and all of that. Will try.

Everyone feels scared, even people that say they don't. The more you train, the more it just becomes instinctive to do the right things. You just recognise stuff that the other guy won't. If you're smart, you cross train something on your feet and a lot more training time in grappling. No one fights like a boxer in real life, they'll either call you out and it turns into a struggle fuck, in which case, you're grappling, better be good at it. The second scenario is they sucker punch you, usually from the side when you're talking to someone else, or hit you with something and then run off. I'd say that's the majority of real life incidents. There's no training or amount of lifting going to save that, so probably better to improve walking the fuck away from a shitty situation.

youtube.com/watch?v=H9W4Khn078w

Lol K. Maybe learn some Chi channeling techniques too right?

I promise you, you're hitting the bag wrong and finding comfort in the wrong places.

Modern men aren't used to handling stress and the adrenaline triggers a "flight" response instead of a "fight" response. Ironically this goes against why we have this response in the first place. You should immediately resort to fight mode and only "flight' mode if or when you realize you will be demolished.

Lifting weights, exercise, and getting out of your comfort zone will help you achieve this.

The key is training a sport with a non compliant opponent. You'll soon learn what works in real life and what doesn't work when the other guy you're training is actively trying with all their ability to stop you.

>Are you a weeaboo faggot?

>Yes, those weeb meme flash sports and paying $100+ per session at the McDojo

>No, boxing, I want to end the fight in one punch or two

Think about it in a logical sense op. You had your dog, which will probably protect you in a fight. You are a runner, you a better cardio than him. The average fight lasts less than a minute. A bum isn't going to be in the kind of shape an average person would be (unless he's that "big and crazy" kind of bum).

Being scared is okay, but don't let it consume you. When Tyson was young, with d'amato, he used to cry before every fight because he was afraid of losing. But he still went out there and demolished everyone.

>been in fight
>studied Karate for 3 years
>pretended it was just another test
>whooped ass

My advice is take some classes, the style wont matter as long as they have sparring. The way they spar will also matter, full contact is the best but if you can settle for semi-contact. Once you're used to fighting gym mates everyone else will feel like an amature.

youtu.be/aZ6nQJ21vSM

>took the plea

This explains everything. You got railroaded and tricked by a trash defender.

> I want
> Doesn't realise the other guy also wants that

If you aren't training grappling, you're fucked.

that sucks, any decent lawyer would have had you easily in the clear.
You called the police
guy probably has a record, and was most likely intoxicated, blocking your way on your property. You were scared for your life ......

but with a court appointed public defender you would still be screwed. public defenders may have the best intentions, but they only budget a few hours for your case, because they are representing literally hundreds of people at a time.

>>I try to hit the hobo with the chain

I don't understand. You had your dog chain attached to your dog, you grabbed it, and then kind of flung it at him?

he probably grabbed the middle of the chain between the handle loop and the dog and then tried to whip the guy.

Thank God I live in TX. I basically live for the day a dumb as fuck homeless person tries to fuck with me.

I'm sorry I didn't explained myself, I grabbed the dog and got him close of me, I hold him by the necklace and took his chain out, then I hit the hobo with the chain

was the chain in the shape of a ball? or was it strung out like a whip?

this but also like most things that make you afraid in life, its the acceptance that if you want to be less afraid of fighting, you have to be willing to fail (get your ass kicked) not like get beat like a pulp and end up in the hospital, but be able to say "damn I lost that one." start off sparing with friends and dont be afraid to lose. You might just realize the fear of losing overtakes the fear of fighting

The man's brain works in a strange way, I feel really calm now and less stressed that before the fight.post some knockouts or webms if you have them

jeez man, this is one of those stories i read on here that I will probably never forget

fun fact: the kid at 3:15 in the black jeans and black shirt was legally blind. thats why somebody sucker punched the other guy

fuck never mind they clearly say it in the video

There is not a jury pool in the entire country that would unanimously vote to convict a young med student of a crime for getting caught up in a scrap with a bum outside his own place on nothing more than the word of some shithead neighbor who didn't even see the whole incident.

Your lawyer fucked you, hard, and you should explore the possibility of claiming inadequate representation and having the conviction expunged.

That kid is a piece of shit for messing with a blind dude. Hope he gets rekt again in the future

This reminded me of my old boxing days

>trained as an early professional prospect boxer
>honed my skills 24/7 literally
>ate lightning crapped thunder
>was literally compared to Mike Tyson
>if Iron Mike could dish out 5-6 combinations in a second, I could do 7
>there were people who said I had the potential to even best prime kid dynamite on a good day
>when I say I could kill people with my barehands, I LITERALLY mean I could kill you with a basic combo of 1-2
>be one night walking home
>always have to pass this dark alley where a homeless huge ass nigger squats
>as I passed him he stood up
>my fighting instincts know whats about to happen
>I could feel my adrenaline pumping, my muscles tensing, my mind vigilant and my breathing heavy
>I knew it was time to fucking show my skills on the streets
>literally felt like Achilles
>"Why kill you now, Prince of Troy, with no-one here to see you fall?"
>combo of 7-5-6-5 repeated all over my mind, one, two, three.. fifteen times
>Nigger started to whisper "hey man, I dont want no trouble, just give me your phone and wallet, I dont want to hurt you"
>turn around with a smirk on my face
>see he has a knife
>implying
>with a grin, I said to this behemoth "Lets see how you fare against a marine"
>sad look on the nigger's face, probably scared
>Ape then patted me on the back mumbling "temper fly, brother'" then started laying down on his usual spot
>mfw I talk-no-jutsu this weird ass faggot
>mfw I dont even marines
>fucking called the cops on that pussy
>never saw that pathetic squatter ever again

I'm learning muay thai, and I'm pretty good, what grappling art d you recommend?

I had never even gotten a speeding ticket before the incident and the best advice I got was from a friend that father did some time at a pen. basically said "a forsure 16 months of minimum security sounds a lot better than a MAYBE 10 years in the pen.." I agreed and took my time.

The first time I met the guy he brought the wrong case file.. I knew I was fucked

Try being someone that slightly resembles a Mexican in Colorado Springs at "one of the worst housing projects in the state". I took a plea.

Shoulda killed that fucking bum.

Things That Never Happened: this.

Contrary to popular belief, the best self defense there ever is or was is always vigilance.

learn to assess threats before it could happen, and believe it or not it all starts with eye contact, not a stare down, mind you, but that split second eye contact.

The point is you let people know that you 'know' that you are aware of them, this reduces their willingness to 'jump' you, not only this but you should and always try to avoid fights, but you do not deny them, you do not tell yourself that 'I'm never gonna be in a real life and death scenario anyway', you should never live in denial, no matter where you live, it doesnt matter that youre living in a first world country, shit will always try to make things happen.

Heres a basic rundown how to survive

1. is always Vigilance, assess them before it happens, and always do your best to try and avoid fights, steer confrontations from fist fights, apologize if you must, a slightly scratched ego is better than getting stabbed.

2. learn Boxing, I dont give a shit what people say around here, but Boxing IS the best striking art there is for a normie, enrolling in almost any boxing class will give you balance and coordination which is very important more so than power when it comes to life and death

Note; I said 'normie', there are alot of more complicated striking arts which are arguably better than boxing in most cases, but to attain that level you must be a competing fighter, so for people with jobs and only have a few time per week to spare, boxing is actually your best bet, you benefit so much for so little time.

2.5 If its a boxing gym with only a couple of sparring PER MONTH, quit it ASAP, its a fucking boxercise gym, a good way to know if youre in the right place is if your place is having sparrings ATLEAST once or twice a week.

cont.

The 1000 Year Door music at the beginning was the last thing I expected when I opened this video

Epic story, my friend.

I'm not calling you dumb, man, I'm saying you got fucked and you know you got fucked.

There are rules in place that are supposed to help avoid situations like having a broke kid get convicted when he has nobody but an ex con to turn to for advice. It's called inadequate representation, and it can overturn whole convictions. "Looks kinda Mexican" isn't a piece of evidence the State could hold against you as proof that your lawyer's total non-advice was any good. "Showed up with the wrong fucking case file and immediately told me to take a plea bargain" is shady as fuck, and people have gotten convictions overturned with less.

Maybe it was too long ago to claim it now, maybe you can't afford to try it, but I'd give it serious thought fampai. Might even be able to find a group like the Innocence Project to do it pro bono. One way or another expungement is something your should seriously consider pursuing.

not op but damn, thanks for this

youtube.com/watch?v=SGpDVCkhtD4

Wanderlei Silva is fighting some of the most dangerous men in the world. Of course he's going to get butterflies.

If i knew you id offer you a really cheap room(if your white)

next time this happens run to the other side of the street user, keep a good 10m range away from the hobo

Your lucky he didn't bite you or stab your dog

They have nothing to lose and they are often bat shit insane. Never fight a hobo

3. Ground work Bjj, Judo or wrestling, this will almost 80% of the time allow you to come on top in a street fight (aspalt and all) but is very situational compared to striking, you use this when you want to skip all the bullshit and just end the fight as quickly as possible, BUT you do not use this when your aggressor is with a group, you dont want to get your head kicked in.

Note; You do not prefer one over the other, train them together.

4. EDCs, knives, whistles, tasers, sprays, the works. Almost any knife with at maximum 4 inch of blade length can be passed off as a 'tool', if you ever decide to bring an EDC, YOU MUST ALWAYS bring it with you, it doesnt matter where, you must have it at all times, its always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Also, it doesnt mean that you carry a knife that you must personally SEEK confrontations, just go fuck yourself

>BUT WHAT ABOUT Veeky Forums? CAN I INTIMIDATE PEOPLE WITH MY MUSCLES?

As Mike Tyson once said "weights have as much resemblance to punching power as a cheesecake"

For the reason for this, you have to go deep on why being buffed doesnt necessarily scare people

the main reason for this would be; Ego. especially for criminals or people with ill intent, they are not scared of your muscles, they see it as a challenge, and will make them want to confront you as a group instead, having a big physique intimidates them but doesnt trigger a flight response, but rather the opposite, these people will want to see you fall, they want to humiliate you, especially when youre with your girl, they want to assert dominance.

dont get me wrong, being 6'6 has its perks, but people will bleed out the same when slashed in the thighs, people will fall the same when their knees are pushed in, or their throats smacked

5. maybe redundant with #1 but, NEVER LIVE IN DENIAL

I want to say that you should never get comfortable, ever, but that maybe pushing it, just get this, never live in denial

Its called confidence... sorry bub

Think of murphy's law

>Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

6. motivation

mwkworks.com/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html

actually just read this once in your life, should touch you in a weird kind of way.

Don't be affraid. You have to somehow stay calm during violent situations. Don't lose your head. You went full ape and a hobo isnt even a big threat.
I personally do mma and jiu jitsu which is great for self defense, and the feeling of belonging to a team makes me feel more secure.
Don't make a big deal about it though, it's not easy to be a tough guy unless you are a soldier or a policeman who has law immunity, carries a gun and even knows how to use it well.

...

This. Quoting the ancient wisdom of Seneca:

>he is lord of your life who scorns his own

You really shouldn't be seeing bums as "people" insofar as you're supposed to acknowledge their existence and feel awkward and cowardly totally avoiding them.

If you saw a wild animal, even one way smaller than you (as long as it isn't a squirrel or something), you would still give it a wide berth because you instinctively understand that it's feral and unpredictable, and will likely treat any confrontation like a balls-out life and death struggle. Start thinking about disheveled homeless people the same way.

wait why do you need alot of money for bjj

>What can I do to look like a guy you dont want to fight with?

its pretty simple:
>height >190cm
>wide frame (lanklets with narrow shoulders and tiny frame looks silly)
>big manly hands and thick wrists

optionally you can lift but it does not matter as much.

and of course some martial art, but I would go for muay thai because its more practical.
People who train martial art for longer time usually tend to avoid fighting situation in real life, they know that they can fight, they have experience and they do not feel like they have to prove anything to anyone.

I took no offense to your responses my friend, I hope I didnt come across that way. I was book smart then and not cery street smart, the quickest, cheapest and easiest way to get back on my feet at the time seemed to be the plea.

Sometime's it feels okay being a loser, sometimes I want to try life again.. only difference is I get the choice.

YOU DONT fagot.
When everything is lost, when theres no way around, when all around you has collapsed there is only you your strenght and you skill.
Today was a toy dog (otherwise you would only had to relese the warhound) tomorrow may be your wife, your children or you elderly folks.
All those tremos and quakes you felt within your body is fear of the unknown (and some adrenaline), is like the very first time anybody got slaped/punched in the face, you KNEW what pain is but you never felt it in the face and you get stunned and confused and probably felt like crying.
BUT, you have to remember the life of a man is based on experience.
So you have to go again, and this time the trembling may be a little less, sure you may end up with a black eye, a broken hand or whatever but eventually youll be able to stand your ground against anything.
Also fuck YO toy dog.

>Did you swallow a broomstick as a kid
My sides

Thanks for this
Hopefully i can be a sheepdog for muh hwhite race

Any man in the world can be dangerous. It only takes one punch for you to land badly on the concrete and it's game over.

Street fighting in 99% of cases is absolutely not worth it. Protect yourself obviously but 99% of street fights are started by fools who feel like they have something to prove. If you have something to prove, do it in a ring or in a cage.

I hope your doggo is okey
U shoudnt let someone hit your doggo bro

props for standing up for yourself.

Fucking bronson the second best score ever used in movies :)
1) megamind with welcome to the jungle
3) muh fight club with the pissxies

I've never played a contact sport but I want to box desu

>wanting a vicious, mean dog that attacks people
yeah ok

Literally a meme dude
Come on man, aikido will work against complete retards who shouldn't be fighting in the first place. But if you find yourself at any sort of disadvantage, ANY other self defense martial art would be favorable.

Please lads, don't learn aikido. You could get really hurt.

get a load of that "dangerous" aikido

youtube.com/watch?v=PLP_DInpPHE

If you're not scared than you're probably a bad fighter, and reckless. That bum probably wasn't scare but he had probably been up for like 4 days in a row and barely knew what was happening.

You don't need to have played a contact sport. That image is half informed

I really hope this is bullshit

Op sometimes shit happens so fast you don't really have time to understand what's happening. It's not like this built up, the dude just started swinging on you and you froze up a bit. It's normal and definitely no big deal.

So basically, youre a total super bad ass, but you lie to him to make yourself seem tougher? Liar.

>Not letting your dog maul his leg after he was kicked
>Not choking the homeless man with your chain like jabba the Hutt while he was distracted
>Not ever gonna make it.

Yeah, it really is impressive how they're still able to open schools and flourish. They sell their sport as "too deadly" for MMA, and Segal is able to stick his big stupid head in the picture every once and awhile and soak up all the credit he can.

Whatever though, if there are stupid people willing to buy into it, it would be un-American to not exploit them.

bjj or judo

>They sell their sport as "too deadly" for MMA

Stay jelly.
youtube.com/watch?v=aJozK6lsQHE

Really ? Can you find me one example of this ?

Everyone here probably knows a McDojo Karate black belt that couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

the only time i've actually been in a streetfight was when i was walking home from boxing at 9pm and walked past a fat dude with his girlfriend and hit him with my shoulder by accident so he pushed me so i just turned around and walked up to him and did a left hook on his body, he immediately dropped onto his knees because of the pain

dude obviously had no fighting experience and i didn't want to embarrass him infront of his girlfriend(i assume) so i didn't go for his face

retards who don't train fighting and have confidence because of height are funny as heck. i'm like 6'1" and that guy must've been 6'6" yet he got btfo i guess he wanted to show off infront of his girlfriend

but yeah op, just do some boxing.. after a month or so you'll be able to defend yourself easily.. in streetfights its mostly about being able to slip/parry the first punch and afterwards you can just strike back unless you're against someone who knows what they're doing

In just about every fight the idiots that got knocked out didn't keep proper fighting distance.