What's the gritty on saturated fat?

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>hundreds of metabolic ward studies proving saturated fat increase cholesterol levels

meanwhile on Veeky Forums
HURR DURR SATURATED FAT IS GOOD MUH TESTOSTERONE HUUR DUUR

looks like two girls from a shitty porn in the early 2000's

sneaky

>implying high cholesterol is bad

leah wilde and charity, ass parade

Arterial plaque is bad, cholesterol and saturated fat are strong precursors to that.

This cholesterol is black and white always good meme needs to die.

Good if you're on keto, probably detrimental otherwise

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>clinical trials reveal that morbidly obese fatfucks who eat saturated fat alongside their daily soda keg have higher cholesterol
>Veeky Forums: "HURR DURR SATURATED FAT BAD 4U"

Terms like "good" and "bad" ate silly

>fatties are a scapegoat i invent for anything that hurts my feelings

> tfw only come into ass threads now to find the BRAP posters

Is cheese really bad to eat quantities of? Like 3oz per day?

atherosclerosis is caused by pufas

>leah wilde and charity, ass parade
this

coconut oil is saturaed fat. tribes that have 70% of theyre calories from coconut have literally NO heartdisease whatsoever.

No 3 oz isn't much at all. Especially if it's high quality stuff. Like grass fed cows will lead to a cheese high in Omega 3 fatty acids.

Thanks

Citation needed

fuck man
still no conclusion
I've been listening to joe rogan and i was feeling real confident that saturated fat was dat good shit
I still kinda am, are any of you anti-saturateds aware of the sugar conspiracy?

I'm talking to

i just did the same thing senpai top kek

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>no replies
i'm going to take it they haven't
thus we must conclude team saturated is indeed the way to go
case closed fellas
you heard it here, thanks for your help

Studies have shown that an increased intake of saturated fats leads to increased levels of LDLs (low-density lipoproteins, or "bad" cholesterol). The exact mechanism of this is unknown, as is the exact extent. However, you should try and limit your intake, and current AHA guidelines recommend limiting saturated fats to no more than 10% of total daily caloric intake.

So, they're not great, but it's not exactly poison either. Try to keep an eye out for 'em and you'll be fine.

Source: medfag

>believing the opinions of the guy from that tv show where people ate fried gorilla testicles for money over peer-reviewed scientific consensus

this is what the world has come to

good stuff doc
and what is your opinion on the exposes that have come out in recent years showing that these studies were falsified by the sugar industry

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what are you talking about?
the point of this thread was i was reading the sticky and it said that there was no consensus, so i'm asking is there a consensus yet
and after a bit of googling, it seems there still isn't
so please elaborate about this scientific consensus of yours when 25% of articles are saying saturateds are good, 25% are saying they're bad, and 50% say idk

I really want them to shart and saturate(d fat) a brown spot in those pants right now

I think the studies provide more evidence than the theorists trying to disprove them.

On a biochemical level, I think the notion that saturated fats are less desirable is pretty straightforward (note: gross oversimplification incoming). "Saturated" means that the fat chain is literally saturated with hydrogen atoms, ie there are no double-bonds present. Double-bonds add "bends" to otherwise straight fatty-acid chains, and thereby cause physical separation between them. When you stack numerous fatty acids side-by-side, the less double-bonds there are, the more rigid and solid the resulting membrane is. You want some fluidity present, otherwise you're at higher risk of arterial plaques and other problems. This (generally speaking) is why you very rarely find saturated fats in nature at all; they're simply not as desirable. However, that's not to say that you need to avoid saturated fats like the plague; again, go back to that "

you must not have googled very hard then

literally from wikipedia:
Many health authorities such as the American Dietetic Association,[23] the British Diebetic Association,[24] American Heart Association,[25] the World Heart Federation,[26] the British National Health Service,[27] among others,[28][29] advise that saturated fat is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease. The World Health Organization in May 2015 recommends switching from saturated to unsaturated fats.[30]

beyond that, though, i will cut my fucking nuts off if 25% of genuine, peer-reviewed publications regarding saturated fats consider them to be *good.* if you did some actual reading, you'd find that it's just a matter of how-not-bad they are. almost every source i've seen indicates that they definitely do cause a rise in blood cholesterol. it's just that some argue that there's no link between that rise in cholesterol and mortality, which is just bullshit numbers-fudging in small-pop studies.

to your last point that's how i ended up on the pro saturated side in the first place
putting trust into a guy who pro athletes come to for diet advice
i get your point that these scientists in turn are more knowledgable than joe is, but there are scientists on the pro saturated side as well, not just skeptics, scientists.
i still don't know where to stand desu
you said a whole lot of science shit that made a whole lot of sense for why saturateds are bad, but i don't really fuckin know what any of that shit meant.
i'm a google search away from a whole lot of science shit that says it's good and would be just as convincing to me
what do you think of this idea doc
i go to the doctors and do a full check up to make sure i'm healthy
then i go ham on saturated fats and get a full check up at the doctors every half year.
if they detect anything i cut the saturateds out and we see if anything changes
yay or nay

just avoid processed fats. stick to coconut avocado nuts seeds organic grassfed butter.

>you must not have googled very hard
>literally from wikipedia
lol
but i see your point

and when i say good i just mean harmless at the least, and i don't know what the actual percentages are, the point i was making is from what i've seen the majority seems to say results are inconclusive, and the rest is roughly split down the middle

to your last point i've never heard of this
i'll look into it

That's a fair view, honestly. Like I said, it's tough to know what the right answer is.

I think your idea is fine, and as long as you're getting routine evaluations and good reports from your family doc, I think you'll be okay.

But speaking on a personal level, keep the saturated's in moderation, please. Everything in life is about moderation. And your blood tests and evaluations may not show abnormalities, but that doesn't mean you don't have small changes in your cells and blood vessels that add up in the long run. Sure, you may not die at fifty, but it could mean you're one of those 80-year old stroke victims drooling on yourself in a nursing home, rather than one of those 80-year-olds making the young punks look bad as you power-walk around the neighborhood in uncomfortably short shorts.

Just try to keep that in mind, listen to your doctor, and you'll do fine.

>everything in life is about moderation
It's common sense that when you plateau you add more roids.

Fuck moderation.

This is why you have no gainz.

>ok it's fine, but here's why it's not fine
sound advice doc
really speaks to the theme of the thread

it seems to me the smart thing to do would be as you say, take it in moderation, and if science ever comes to a consensus, then i can adjust or not adjust accordingly at that point
it's just really hard to think that way when i'm going to be listening to joe rogan talk about eating sticks of butter for breakfast, and how 95% of cucks are brainwashed by the sugar industry
how is that guy so certain when there is so much uncertainty.
what does he know that i don't?
i think that's the real question here

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