Pullups vs. Chinups

I don't know, it's 7th month now, but I can let you know then

youtube.com/watch?v=OawrlVoQqSs

sorry, was for you

Pullups are generally harder to do, so anyone you see favouring chinups tend to be shit at pullups and use that as an excuse to do chinups instead.

Most top military forces all use pullups.

What the fuck are you mumbling about?

Both work the lats equally, it's the secondary muscles that are different. Ideally you'd do wide grip and neutral grip pullups alongside your standard chinups. That being said, I prefer neutral grip pullups myself

I'll translate for any illiterate persons here.

He has 20 students.

One group of 10 are doing 40 pullups a day for one year.

The other group of 10 are doing 40 chinups a day for one year.

He's in his 7 month of testing, but will let the user know when complete.

>pullup: normal exercise almost everyone knows, a staple like pushups. a completely normal exercise almost everyone does. tons of videos of healthy normal adults doing this move

>chinups: no one but ss+gomad internet autists have even heard of this have you ever seen a non fedora do this? didnt think so. its just for people who think marky rips physique is peak performance

>triangle symbol
>literally has a single angle

How retarded can you get, at least call it an arrow

the only reason why pullups are harder is because your hand is in pronation.

extend your hand in front of you with bicep pointing to the ceiling and only twist your wrist so your hand is in pronation (palm facing down). notice how the bicep muscle is in eccentric position.

now only twist your wrist again so that the palm is facing up (supination) and you will see how your bicep gets shorter (concentric).

and because muscle is stronger when it's contracted or in concentric position, that's the reason why chinups are "easier" to do.

pullups=muhfunctional strength
Chinups=aesthetics

If course they both increase the other area as well...just not as much.

Then what the fuck is the point of the post?

for me are pull ups with narrow grip superior
did gslp for 1 year and my biceps and lats grew but not that much as now when i do pull ups
weighted ofc
wanna try wide grip pull ups too but they are somewhat tougher for me so i'll take it step by step

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It's a chevron you daft cunts.

Go shill your energy corp somewhere else fag

same shit, both work your back
people find chin ups easier, but that's mostly because their forearms suck ass
i find chin ups extremely uncomfortable, reason why i prefer pull ups

don't listen to stick to the one you like

>tfw pull ups hurt my babby wrists
what do

no shit nobody gives a shit about your "only reason why....", the lack of bicep means more back and shoulders which is what we want. the fact its harder proves its better for the body than the easier chin up. nobody wants huge biceps but everyone wants a ripped back and shoulders which is what pull ups give.

Farmers walks, reverse grip barbell curls.

>that whole post

It's likely an experiment to see the difference between the two as far as muscle development and strength. Is it that hard for you to figure out?

Be sure to report back with your findings.

you develop strength for that what you train so it's a pointless test

>nobody wants huge biceps but everyone wants a ripped back and shoulders
lmao tell that to the millions of curlbros

just do weighted chinups like rippletoe recommends, never gets easy which is the main complaint for chinups and is great for lats and bis

i find that my lats are the first to give out anyway so its definitely doesnt work them less than pullups

no

emg shows otherwise. the difference in muscle activation is

I read somewhere that the wider grip you do on your pull up, the lower muscles on the back you will hit
Chin ups are easier to people because they work your shoulders and biceps along with back, while wide grip pull ups do your back a lot more.
>So why not do both?
I mean it won't hurt if you want better overall results

you probably just have weak ass lats

>So why not do both?
because chinups allow you to lift more weight and therefore get better results. doing pullups is only gimping yourself.

>but muh lats
there are far better lat isolations out there anyway. doing pullups for lats is like doing squats for calves

>chevron
Its not > IS LEFT ALLIGATOR MOUTH and < IS RIGHT ALIGATOR MOUTH

Wrong, they're meme indicators. All memes are automatically put into green when detected

You'd be surprised how little pullups target your lats and how much more they target your teres major and minor (those little bubbly muscles behind your armpit). Chinups have better lat activation.

Chinup ils the poor man's pullup

You already explained that. I'm asking what the point of the post was.

Stop being retarded on purpose

Just do pull ups you chumpski hump

Pull-ups > chin-ups because you're more likely to do a pull-up motion outside of the gym than a chin-up motion.

wide grip pull ups or bust, u stupid idiots

shut up you retarded retard

Primary Chin Up Muscles:
>Biceps Brachii (Biceps)
>Latissimus Dorsi (Lats)
>Teres Major (Outer Back)

Secondary Chin Up Muscles:
>Rhomboid Major (Upper Back)
>Trapezius (Upper Back)

Auxiliary Chin Up Muscles:
>Pectoralis Major (Chest / Pecs)
>Pollicis Longus (Forearms)
>Digitorum Profundus / Superficialis
>Carpi Radialis Ulnaris (Forearms)

VS.

Primary Pull Up Muscles:
>Teres Major (Outer Back)
>Latissimus Dorsi (Lats)

Secondary Pull Up Muscles:
>Trapezius (Upper Back)
>Rhomboid Major (Upper Back)
>Biceps Brachialis (Biceps)

Auxiliary Pull Up Muscles:
>Pectoralis Major (Chest / Pecs)
>Brachioradialis (Forearms)
>Carpi Radialis Ulnaris (Forearms)
>Digitorum Profundus / Superficialis (Forearms)
>Pollicis Longus (Forearms)

Both work different muscle groups. One isn't particularly better than the other.

what vs? just do them both you idiot. You will never be in a position that you have to choose one or the other

brb grabbing the top of a wall with the back of my hands

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dis

how can one even think its the same exercise

Do you know this, when girls 'pretend' to pull their hair into pony tails? My sister did this.

Can you?

weighted pullups for strength + bodyweight chinups for hypertrophy

kek, theres no fuckin way its him, he would NEVER be allowed near students

have you ever taken a science course and performed experiments? hell there was just a thread yesterday about Veeky Forums experiments, why the hell didnt you post you mong?

I do pullups on back days and chinups on days I focus biceps. One isn't better than the other, it is always important to involve multiple exercises that focus similar muscle groups

>doing more exercises instead of less is gimping yourself
look i mean maybe one is better than the other but if you do both theres literally no chance for gimping, just the exact opposite right?

If you are not a pussy you would do weighted pull ups, chin ups, and parallel grip.

....yes. So pull ups are harder. We established that

parallel grip is the one where your palms are facing eachother correct? and you would use a pulling bar like pic related?

1 finger pushups are also harder than normal pushups. does that make them better?

Yes palms face each other.
At my gym the chin up/pull up bar has a built in grip for it.

damn we just have separate types of bars in mine. thanks buddy i appreciate it.

Bloody hell this whole thread is so autistic

didn't see that thread, I am here almost daily but always just for few minutes

whys that

>ass lats
what did he mean by this

I don't know, usually when I am at lunch waiting for my food to come and than at the evening which is now

It's more about grip with than pronated or supinated grip. I do chin ups with a slightly wider than shoulder width grip.

*then

this

I can't tell what the fuck is even going on here

good job lads

I do neutral grip because they feel the best to me and are supposedly easier on your joints (although they're also easier for me to do than forward or reverse grip anyways)

Neutral grip with gymnast rings that can rotate to accommodate your joints puts the least strain on your wrist and elbows but requires somewhat specialized equipment. I just use a pullup bar that I hang in a doorway

try to hang it in back alley, more adrenalin and more gains

>the difference in muscle activation is

No, that's not how it works.

Image attached allows pronation when you're at the bottom, and supination when you're at the top.
They are also more stable than rings.
Best option in my opinion.

my homemade power rack isnt wide enough for pull ups so Ive been doing chin ups. pls help I want lats

Pull-ups have more of a focus on the back while chin-ups have more of a focus on the biceps.

Chin UPS can also give a little bit more of a pump to the serratus anterior whereas pull ups will require a more retracted scapula.

You will find high-volume chin-ups easier and less you have either previously done training that would contribute to more Pull-Ups (a program that heavily emphasized horizontal pulling).

You will likely experience a bottleneck on your pull up more than you will on your chin up, therefore you can expect to make quicker and greater gains by chinning up.

Part of it also comes down to your training philosophy as well. If you do chin-ups, then you may want to add in some horizontal pulls as accessory work.

With pull-ups horizontal accessory pull work is not as necessary

>Part of it also comes down to your training philosophy as well. If you do chin-ups, then you may want to add in some horizontal pulls as accessory work.
>With pull-ups horizontal accessory pull work is not as necessary
Bold claims, with not much to back them up.

Alright anons, to settle this, what hits traps hardest?

my dick
seriously tho, dumbell overhead raises

Does this have anything to do with weighing yourself underwater?

>tfw being less of a newfag by the day

So what the fuck is better pull-ups or chin-ups? I put a pullup bar in my doorframe a week ago and have been alternating between the two. Chin ups are definitely the easier of the two.

Pull-ups for forearms, chin-ups for upper arms.
Assuming same grip width, both hit the lats equally.
Assuming wider grip for pull-ups, chin-ups have a larger range of motion for the lats.

Then there are some small differences.
Pull-ups hit the traps a bit more, chin-ups the rear delts a bit more.
Chin-ups also work the chest a bit.

Do both.

Thanks dude! I shall stick to doing both!

shitskin detected, always taking the easy way out

what the fuck did I just read

Shitty phrasing, but essentially.
Doing all three, and weighted and marked down in a way that you are slowly moving up weight over time is the best.
Just hit +45lbs for full reps and I feel like a badass.

I do two sets of each, for a total of six sets, five to six reps each. I've been pretty steadily moving up weight. Is this enough?

oh god there's more

this thread is hilariously awful

How is this different to dumbbell overhead press

It's a different exercise.
Isn't limited by front delt strength, and doesn't use the triceps at all.
They use the lateral and front delts, but really hit the traps hard through a large range of motion.

youtube.com/watch?v=mt3DP1n8gXE

youtu.be/NDmJNX9JrLs?t=9m45s

why not pullups and chinups?
i do deadhang pullups a couple of sets then switch to chins for dat biceppump

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chinups are fucking stupid

you should only do pullups

i spent the last 2 weeks trying to do a pullup. and now i can do one.

>pullups are not god tier for lats

what the fuck am i reading?