Is Adderall going to kill my gains?

drink absolutely no water
it'll react with the adderall and make it more potent and possibly kill you

...

>trust us goy this pill will fix you
>you are broken and there is no other fix
>it's magic goy

I take adderall on a daily basis because of ADD. It will increase performance at the gym since it's a stimulant, but since it supresses appetite, you might lose weight as a result.
I go to the gym 4x per week and my biggest enemy is lack of appetite. I make it work, somehow, by eating one large meal a day in the morning before taking adderall but I could get better results if I was able to eat more.

Thanks for the real answer

Be careful of becoming addicted to it, shit can fuck your life up.

Op, my doc says to take aderall too. pharmacudical companies are funded by government and doctors get a kick back by orescribing shit. aderall is literally same molecule as cocaine. as a person who has done both, aderall is my preferred drug to cocaine. dont get started op. 30 mgs are really hard to quit.

Adderall, Theanine, and Caffeine is the god tier stack. But cut the caffeine if you don't have a tolerance to it.

i meth binge every now and then still bench 2pl8 lol

hnnggg squad REPRESENT

No my PTSD counselor suggested it, I went to the doc and they gave it to me. Was not some random prescription

they're throwing you right on 30? The fuck? You're gonna die.

Took me months before I was so desensitized from the shit that I finally climbed up to 30. I started on cut 10's, I would take 5mg, then another 5mg later. I finally peaked at 30 and just sort of leveled out there.

I barely stopped taking it and detoxing from it was fucking awful, but now I'm useless and can't do anything just like before, back to being super ADHD - distracted constantly, never complete work, suck at hitting deadlines. About to start back up again.

bro add is the worst with how society is. add and adhd are actually good disorders to have for productivity when working in bursts, but its not what is most efficient for schools and businesses ;(

same way. I took 20mg daily for years and then quit for year. Was on couch lock and gained about 40 pounds for the duration, though teh withdrawals subsided. Finally got back on at 5mg and got to work fixing my shit back up.

Yea it's the XR or whatever, I have no idea what to expect

I agree. That's my problem, I constantly go on and off because I work with the creative field, so when I'm off the shit, I have a billion great ideas, but actually sitting down and executing them is fucking impossible. So I can either be medicated and struggle to think of ideas, or I can be unmedicated and struggle to execute my ideas.

I detoxed so I could start over and experiment with medication, like taking it only on weekdays, or maybe every other day or something...or maybe only when I actually need to sit down and execute my ideas.

It just sucks that the ADHD goes beyond work shit though, like I will run out of milk and then run to the store for milk, but get distracted by some shit on the way to the store, end up buying some other shit I had no intention of ever buying, then go back home without milk, realize it when I get inside, then run to the store and end up buying everything but milk. If I don't literally repeat to myself, "You're just getting milk, you're just getting milk, you're just getting milk," the entire way to the store, I will forget or get sidetracked.

I might do that, just 5mg at a time, little small amounts to let my mind wander a bit, but not to the point of not functioning the way i'm doing right now. I'm literally avoiding work I need to do right now this second because I can't sit there and do it. I hate this.

No it will just threaten your life and health no big deal.

Just don't do it.

I am telling you from experience.

Is there much difference between adderal and ritalin?

it's really unlikely that you'll need 30mg a day starting off. And the anons swearing you off coffee are overblowing it. Get on the addy and watch your heartrate before throwing caffeine into the mix though. It's likely that after a few weeks any tachycardia will fade.

get dextroamphetamine if you're going to use stims therapeutically. It's miles ahead of adderall or ritalin.

you're being a drama queen

Adderall isn't bad if you actually need it, it's a fucking lifesaver for people that actually have ADHD. If you're some faggot college kid that just wants to cheat with legal speed, then it's just like doing speed, your brain doesn't chemically process it the same. I still sleep 6-8 hours while on 20-30mg of adderall each day. Meanwhile, my non-ADHD friends in college would take 5mg and be up all night, wired as shit and seeing through time and space.

Why are you starting faggot?

You don't need it to do school work. Stop masturbating. Seriously, stop masturbating and you'll find it easier to concentrate. Amphetamines can cause rapid weight loss, and not in a good way. You don't need this stuff. It's bad for your health. Get over the real way, the manly way, and stop being a drug taking bitch.

>Stop masturbating. Seriously, stop masturbating and you'll find it easier to concentrate.
Bullshit. NoFap does nothing for ADHD.

t. someone that doesn't understand neurons

the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/48567/title/ADHD-Linked-to-Structural-Differences-in-the-Brain/

theconversation.com/imaging-study-confirms-differences-in-adhd-brains-73117

1. That first link isn't related to any study whatsoever.

2. All of the subjects of the study referenced in the second link have smaller brains BECAUSE they've been on brain-addling drugs like adderall for years.

>Hmm, all of these people whose ADHD we've been treating with drugs have smaller brains!
>I think a symptom of ADHD is small brains!
>Well, makes sense. That's all the further we'll look into it, anyways, since we don't have a single physical marker within the human body that any of the diseases we propose to treat exist.

>Let's get back to work on the DSM-IX!

For some people it does affect how well they think, specifically for those who consume lots of porn. Also, getting a prescription doesn't mean you have ADHD.

Doctors say everyone has ADHD, and they don't do scans on practically any patients. The vast majority of people they prescribe medication to do not have ADHD.

Also, what said. You need to make significant intelligence gains, because right now what you're saying is not an argument.

Thanks Dr. McDonald's employee. I'm 40+ yo combat vet, i'm taking this because it can hopefully improve my quality of life.

psychiatrictimes.com/adhd/brain-imaging-data-adhd

Quote from linked:

>Compared with controls, previously unmedicated children with ADHD demonstrated significantly smaller total cerebral volumes and cerebellar volumes. Unmedicated children with ADHD also exhibited smaller total white matter volumes compared with controls and with medicated children with ADHD.

>Doctors say everyone has ADHD, and they don't do scans on practically any patients.

This doesn't seem to be true, at least in my experience. A GP might hand out a token script of 30 small doses, but if you're going to get it regularly you will likely be assessed. I had a four hour diagnostic including a lengthy personality inventory.

30mg of adderall sent me to the hospital and was stuck their for two days
don't bother with that shit
its legal meth

Not here in FL, It's controlled so tightly now that a lot of Doc will not even prescribe it

The thrust of my argument was that the drugs given to treat these "diseases of the mind" are the very same cause of the damage done to the brains of the subjects.

IRONICALLY enough, this point I'm making I've taken DIRECTLY from Mr. Molyneux himself.

If you, like Molyneux, care so much about what is and is not an argument, than you should take it straight from the horse's mouth:

youtube.com/watch?v=eOScYBwMyAA

same here in CA. I went through the ringer before they finally gave up and prescribed it for me, which is the only thing that has ever fixed the bulk of the issues I've struggled with my entire life. Still, because it's so controlled and because college assholes abuse it, I have to drive around pharmacy to pharmacy every time I need a refill to find the shit, it's irritating. They're always out of it because they can only keep such a limited stock in, also, I can only fill it after 30 days, so it's not like I can drop off my prescription early and have them order it... so usually the day I run out, I'm running around trying to get it filled for the next month.

YOu in the panhandle? I imagine treating adhd in NoFlo is fucking tense.

Yea, I thing the reason they did offer it to me was because I was so against meds when I started treatment, but at this point I need something to get life back together

the issue is that society is set up in a way that favors one type of mindset. Those that can sit and task away for 8 hours at a time and meet hard deadlines and shit. The types of things that are nearly impossible when you have a severely ADHD mindset. Perhaps it's not really a mental disorder, but your mind functions in that scattered brain type of way, how are you to make a living in a society where people that succeed deliver on time, can stay on task, etc. If your answer is just "try harder", then you're a fucking retard and you assume those that struggle with that type of mindset aren't trying their asses off.

Well, I have a TBI ( traumatic brain injury) so we're trying to resolve it. It's not like "dur I just cant study"

Huh, I was the same way. I don't think I even touched cough medicine before I was twenty. Desperation drove ot try the stims. All the other drugs failed, and even worsened my situation.

I take adderall with my DNP stack. I supplement it with ECA, Meridia and Cocaine on the weekends. Works wonders for cutting

Yea, I'm already apprehensive about Adderall, I dont think ill be doing blow anytime soon....

how do you get diagnosed with ADD? I'm 100% sure I have it, and how would I get prescribed for adderall (Uk here)?

I never can stay focused at all, I'm always fidgety, I have great ideas but I never execute them

even things I like one second I dislike the next; like world of warcraft I'm really into it for like 5 minutes then I quit and I never get anywhere that's why I never got to max level out of the 10 fucking years I've been playing

which is who the meds should be for. I wish faggot college students didn't abuse it, because it makes everyone think those that need the medication are just lazy cheaters and drug addicts or some shit. When I actually was in college, and people found out I had adderall, everyone was like, "Oh wow, look how many pills you have, gimme gimme gimme," and I told them all to fuck off. Because of them, every time I need a re-fill, I have to drive to 6 different pharmacies to get a medication I actually need to function just because they wanted a leg up on studying. Fuck them.

Was seeing mental health counselor, after a few months she thought I was on the moderate to severe side. She sent me to a General Practice Doc for more testing.

there's a difference between a short attention span and ADHD.

Yea, I'd rather not be on anything, but such is life.

I'm impulsive as well

Tell that to your doc and he will give you a prescription right away.

Doctors give out Adderall like candy.

ADHDfag here. Adderall is dependent upon taking it WITH an intention in mind. It can supercharge you to get shit done, or it can supercharge you to shitpost and jack off for hours.

do I just go in like "hey doc, I want adderall I have such and such symptoms"

or do I go in like "I've been having such and such symptoms for my entire life..."

do I even mention medication or what?

I've been on it for years. it literally sucks the happiness from your life. You're not supposed to be on it for longer than a month at a time, which my prescriber conveniently forgot to mention.
DONT DO IT!!!

lol hell no, not in my State

No they don't anymore. They used to, but things are super strict now.

Just talk to a doctor, you have symptoms of it, but I think a lot of people exaggerate how bad their normal struggles are. I would be honest too because if you actually do have ADHD, depending on what type you have, you may function better on one type of med over another. The type I have, I take a little Welbutrin and a little Adderall and it took a while to come to that conclusion with my doctor that taking a little of both rather than all adderall worked for my type of ADHD.

your doctor won't just give you adderall and will likely try you on other shit before that.

You should go in saying you think you have ADHD and describe symptoms and your doctor will probably ask you questions. My doctor, after finally giving in and giving my adderall gave me a little bit at first and said, "If you run out early, don't bother calling my office because then I know you went and sold them and I'll cut you off there," so they're all afraid of losing their medical practices now that there's a crack down, at least in the States.

Yea, it's almost not worth all the hassle and treatment you receive

im nervous desu what if he gives me councelling instead of drugs

I just want the drugs they seem like quickfixes I don't wanna go through a whole bullshit process

like when I went there for other shit they just sent me to councelling instead of giving me like anti-depressants right off the bat

Yep

it's not a quick fix though, and if they send you to counseling, maybe you need counseling.

Then you are into it for the wrong reasons. I did a shit load of 1 on 1 counseling before I got to the meds.

I've literally never met anyone who had to do anything close to that. I've known quite a lot of people on it, and it was incredibly easy for them to get. It may differ from doctor to doctor, but especially in college towns you can just walk in and say you have ADHD and they'll give you a prescription. I've done it.

Hopefully it does, but chances are it won't.

Yes they do. You literally just walk in and say you have ADHD, they talk to you for like 5 minutes, and you get a prescription.

that's probably just your state then.

I was in a college town and went through all that shit to get adderall.

Bullshit, I had to sign like 5000 DEA and other "we're fucking watching you" documents. My state was a pill mill, now it's one of the hardest to get a script . You seem to speak from "observation" and not experience.

I got a prescription. What, did you not have insurance or something? You just get the prescription and fill it.

Maybe your state has different laws, but for everyone else it's super easy to get.

GA

that explains it, I figured it was the dumb South since everyone is dumb in the South.

My first guess was going to be fatass Mississippi.

Florida was a big ass pill mill so now its extremely controlled, and I have Federal Blue Cross / Blue Shield

>Have freedom
>must be dumb

Being a commie must be miserable

I got it prescribed for ADD I take 60mg a day since 30mg wasnt enough and it seems to work for me all though sometimes my brain freaks out and I get lost in thought for hours. Makes lifting easier and more enjoyable but be careful of Adderall Dick.

uhh, makes it small or 24/7 erect?

It makes it hard to stay erect mostly, it'll also make your balls tighten and hurt (not shrink don't worry). As for sex drive, it can either turn the dial from 0 to 100 or 100 to -100. It's a mixed bag. But don't worry you shouldn't have your dick get smaller from it.

Sadface

THIS. you still have to have the willpower to make yourself move from one task to another. if you're shitposting on Veeky Forums when it kicks, you'll be shitposting on Veeky Forums for hours.

Adderall is a TAAR1 Agonist and Cocaine is a serotonin norepineferine dopamine reuptake inhibitor. You're certifiably retarded. Cocaine is more similar to methylphenidate aka Ritalin. Your ignorance is astounding and if your doctor gave you that information he doesn't know what he's talking about. Amphetamines > Cocaine though I agree. Also you're retarded.

How quickly will I die if I start taking adderall (for studies) and HGH (for gains), and is there any way I can speed the process up?

It will be very painful

nope, not at all.

if you have legitimate adhd you shouldn't feel the effects hard at all and can still eat/maintain functions.

t. addied through college at 25mg - 35 mg then 50 mg before quitting after graduation. felt 0 side effects after the first month.

Test

im a pretty big guy (6'5)

the only thing is u will lose your appetite so u have to force foods down/drink liquid calories

if u take a small dose it will be the most effective pre work out except meth

Yeah you're right Jews made up neurobiology and all of the science which substantiates ADD and ADHD and all the evidence that it can be treated with amphetamine drugs.

You're a degenerate, brainless faggot.

I sometimes lift when my ritalin/equasym is still working and it's fine. I'm a bit weaker and get dizzy more easily but its not that bad. Don't know how adderrall would work out though, we don't take that shit in europe.

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Let me redpill y'all on Adderall & ADHD, cuz psychology is a retarded field and they aren't allowed to experiment with the drugs themselves.

>ADHD is a misnomer
Should really be called "chronic boredom disorder" or "hypo-satisfaction disorder". It's a result of too-little dopamine during normal everyday activities, thus ADHD people "act out" to seek excitement.
>Dopamine isn't the pleasure chemical
Dopamine doesn't have anything to do with pleasure, it is used (among other things) in the satisfaction pathways of your brain. Dopamine is REWARDING, not PLEASURABLE. That's how/why people get addicted to things.
>Adderall = Amphetamine
Adderall is the chemical Amphetamine, which comes in two "flavors" that are mirror versions of each other. Amphetamine is NOT THE SAME AS METHAMPHETAMINE. Over time, meth will fry your brain, amphetamine will not (unless you like OD or some shit).
>Dosage
I haven't figured out if I'm particularly sensitive to psychoactive medication or if everyone else is just dumb, but regardless doctors proscribe WAY too high of dosages. Amphetamine is a Dopamine "re-uptake inhibitor" which means it makes dopamine stick around longer. Your body is constantly releasing dopamine and constantly removing dopamine as part of how it works. Well, if you make it harder for the body to remove dopamine, at some point your body will be releasing more dopamine than it's removing, and the dopamine will build up. That's when you start to tweak out, and the balance point is called the "critical point".

Below the Critical Point, you probably won't notice you're on amphetamine (unless you have a shitload of experience taking drugs). The only clues are 1) you will be satisfied more quickly [e.g. you'll be like, "I've had enough of Veeky Forums and I will go to bed on time"] and 2) you will sleep more lightly.

The ideal dosage is just under your Critical Point. I've only gotten XR stuff, and mine is 9-10mg. Start smll and work ur way up day after day until u tweak

I took that stuff for a year and ended up in a psyche ward for a few days from temporary stimulant induced psychosis. Don't do it senpai.

eu here, bought some concerta 54mg pills and it really helps me to study

I have an adderall prescription and stopped taking it for gains. I literally can't eat when I'm on it. Also makes it so I can't get boners and can't sleep. its pretty overrated desuu

also doing worse in school when Im off it but DGAF cause gains

oh dude, u just zero fucking discipline. What you did to your self is all in your head. I was on daily Adderall for 3-4 years and I decided like 4 months ago it was time to detox. I started a slow taper, I've been off it for a month now and I'm doing just fine.

I also decided to quit cigarettes with addys.

I havent gained any weight, and my gym game is still just a strong...

Stop being a slave to a pill

lol i feel ya. Addys make me a zombie sometimes tho and I will legit get stuck.

Shit that thing about milk sums up my life once my aderall wears off

Nah mate dont. I take both. Aderall is more mental. Dex is more of a physical stimulant. Makes me suuuuper horny and driven to lift but not so great for schoolwork or work