Well?

How come nobody looks like Arnie anymore?

Everyone is either gross, or nowhere close to big enough. Arnie mode seems like a lost body when in reality that should be the goal.

Lee Haney was the guy who marked the transition . He was 1/2 aesthetic god and 1/2 freak. After him it was all freak and bodybuilding as a sport of developing beauty ended forever

>who is calum von moger

Plenty of guys out there look like Arnold, they're just not competitive bodybuiders,they are fitness models.

>bb is a sport
Lmaooooooo

Left has shit tier biceps abs and awful quads

gotta agree with rich grand piano on this one
modern body building has kinda gotten out of control
in pursuit of getting bigger and bigger, they also started getting roid gut
i just cant see how bubble gut in any is more aesthetic than a tapered waist, unless your big lenny in which case tom platz of abs

Stomach vacuum is no longer a pose

Serge is the goat black bodybuilder

not feeling those abs senpai

Nah goat period imho

>all those additional chemicals
>still have a smaller chest than arnold
lmao

At 66 years old

damn son

serge and frank are my hard line goals. maybe i won't ever make it to their level, as i am a harry guy, but they're the best examples of what it truly means to have greek godlike physiques.

frank zane, def one of the goats

>tfw grandpa steals your girl

>i am a harry guy

yeah i feel you mate

Frank>every single one in bb

Wait a sec. Is he wearing a lifting belt while cycling? For what purpose? I guess if he was cycling to the gym and it was the only thing he wanted to bring with him it would make sense.

for me it's Ronnie, the best natty bodybuilder

Uncanny similarity between them.

Yates

Frank with the greatest calves of all time.

ehh Ive cycled to the gym before wearing my lifting belt cause I left my gym bag at work and thats all I had
Although I did had it on pretty loose... still felt pretty weird tho

(You)

his arms are out of this world, best i've seen in my life

well shit. i've become a degenerate. time to pick up a book

where are his balls and dick?

When you get to that level you should always wear a lifting belt so you can be ready to lift something at a moments notice. You never know when you have to show off your strength or lift a car off of a fair maiden, carry people from a burning building, etc.

Pic related. Machamp is the most swole Pokémon and always wears a belt.

Arnold did cardio?!

Dumb question but why does he look like his traps are severely underdeveloped?

I believe he didn't train them directly except for deadlifts and hang deadlifts BUT large traps were not part of what he sought for in his physique so its very much on purpose

yeah, frank was one of the fewer small guys that could compete with other more robust BBers. he's often been criticized for a slimmer figure than usual after the fact.

i'd suggest that this is one of the few men that slimmer figures can aspire to, not just because he's one of the greats but also because he could stand next to men larger than him and still stand out as more artfully aesthetic.

Arnold. How is this even a question?

He was a curlbro.

Someone infinitely less aesthetic than Arnold.

How come all these old bodybuilder are not only still alive but still jacked? These guys have been roiding hard for 40+ years and they're still in good health.

Is the steroids are bad for you meme bullshit?

only if you know what you're doing, the roids are high quality and if your genetics allow your organs and joints to stay healthy (like in most cases genetics do play a big role here)

The only people to ever die from roids are the idiots like Zyzz who mixed them with hard drugs and alcohol

Arnold

Arnold doesnt look like a gorillas dick

Sergio Olvia and his son

wow, roids have really made some leaps and bounds.

Looked for info about him and found that his routine consisted of 50 sets with 30 sec rest for pretty much everything and 2000 sit up everytime. He wasn't about liftting heavy but lifting a lot with the perfect form
The guy lived in a gym

Also a prime example of how genetics influence your physique

Serge died at 72 years old from natural cause

Strength < Dexterity

Yeah, that's my point.

Arnold had the good legit made in America gear. Everyone nowadays has tainted 3rd world garbage.

Arnold is the most fucking overrated bodybuilder of all time.

The only reason Calum is always compared to Arnold is because their faces look similar. Arnold is much bigger and more aesthetic than him.

I have no idea. Guys like Arnold, Franco, Lou, Zane, Draper, Serge, Oliva, Larry Scott, Reg Park, Reeves, etc. all are or lived to be 70+, had great health, and looked great their whole lives.

Meanwhile, powerlifters are lucky if they can tie their own shoes by the time they're 30.

Interesting that upperbody-wise Coleman isnt that much bigger than arnold. The swollen gut makes him wayy worse

Also his legs look like shit

Yeah Serge's workouts were 3-4 hours long.

Oh and he ate 3kgs, over 6.5 pounds of horse meat a day, plus side dishes.

He said he never did bench presses with more than 100 kgs ( 220lbs), he just did it for a billion sets of many reps and 30 seconds rest.... he advocated the "pump" as the key to hypertrophy

btw his max bench was around 200kgs (around 450lbs)

Arnold doesn't even come close to Ronnie

Ronnie just absolutely destroys him

>powerlifters are lucky if they can tie their own shoes by the time they're 30.
Powerlifters sacrifice health by getting fat and if there are any health effects of roids.

Body builders don't get fat.

Typically powerful lifters lift heavier if I'm not mistaken. Which would amplify any negative affects on your joints.

high volume!!! It works wonders for me.

Arnold says in numerous interviews that he did cardio while training regularly. Arnold had a background in soccer.

>Powerlifters sacrifice health by getting fat

Stop posting

haha thats fuckin gross

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>implying he isnt right
theres a huge ''Eat more to get stronk and huge'' mentality with PL

Just read the plg thread for once
>oh guys im stalling for 3 weeks on TM what do
>eat more

Arnold advocated running on the beach ( in the deep sand, not by the water) for 45 minutes to cut weight. That was his cardio and tan all in one

Every powerliter I know irl has visible abs

Did someone say greatest black bodybuilder?

Arnold was the pre-steroid era so he's in a league by himself

Let's take a look at Arnold's competition wins shall we?

>1970 NABBA Mr. Universe - professional in London, England. Who cares?
>1970 AAU Pro Mr. World in Columbus, Ohio. Sergio entered the competition after showing up only to watch Vasily Alexeev clean and jerk 500 in an exhibition, so Arnold walked away with an easy victory against one day-of entry Oliva and perrenial bridesmaid-in-competitions Dave Draper.
>1970 IFBB Mr. Olympia in New York. Beat one guy who previously won uncontested.
>1971 IFBB Mr. Olympia in Paris, France. Beat two guys, one of whom was 50.
>1972 IFBB Mr. Olympia in Essen, Germany. Beat three disqualified opponents.
>1973 IFBB Mr. Olympia in New York. Beat a guy he outweighed by 50 lbs and the sliced and diced but totally outmassed Serge Nubret, because Sergio was so pissed at Weider's shenanigans, tomfoolery, and balderdash to bother showing up.
>1974 IFBB Mr. Olympia in New York. Beat one unseasoned competitor and two guys he outweighed by 50 lbs.
>1975 IFBB Mr. Olympia in Pretoria, South Africa. In his final lackluster Olympia victory before retiring, Arnold again defeated the Hulk, Serge Nubret, and a handful of guys who weighed what Arnold weighed in high school, all while competing light and having only trained a couple of months for the event.
>1980 IFBB Mr. Olympia in Sydney, Australia. Arnold is handed a victory in what is widely considered a fixed competition against decent competition, though seven of them would be considered "manlets" under today's standards because they weighed less than most novice lifters can bench.

>power lifters aren't usually fatter and stronger than body builders

>being fat is completely healthy

LMAO go back to tumbler hamplanet. These threads aren't for you too masturbate too.

Though I am hardly one to start some shit on the internet or raise the slightest fuss about anything whatsoever, having been surprised to read a report on the 2016 Olympia on the Bleacher Report last month, I feel compelled to chime in about claims to the effect that Arnold was one of the greatest bodybuilders in the history of that competitive sport. Like the persistent ignorance regarding the history and ridiculously insane fallacy of body structure phenotypes, virulent, fervent, and borderline psychosis regarding Arnold Schwarzenegger's competitive dominance and his potential placings in fantasy matchups with other bodybuilding superstars is as endless as it is as retarded... and we're talking low-functioning handypotato deep in a K-Hole after a three week bath salt binge retarded, not the potato from The Ringer retarded.

I'm certain this will cause a great many of you no little amount of consternation, given the fact that Arnold was likely involved, at least in some small way, in your participation in physical culture/weightlifting/powerlifting/whatever the fuck you want to call it, but bear with me- the proof behind my statement lies in plain sight. Though Arnold was without question the greatest representative of weight training that the world has seen in the last 60 or so years, his greatness in competition was largely manufactured, and his fellow competitors were often few in number and usually both inexperienced and naive. Arnold, then, was a Mensa member picking on kids in the Special Olympics... if the Special Olympics were to fracture into half a dozen organizations with different rules and a palpable hatred for one another.

entire post can be condensed into:

>Arnold only won cause he was bigger and better than his competition.

When Arnold entered the bodybuilding scene, Joe Weider's empire was in its infancy, often fighting dirty against its competition, in a half-hearted effort to pick up where the consummate marketer and showman Bernarr MacFadden had left off. Like MacFadden before him, Weider dabbled in publishing soft-core gay porn to pay the bills while battling for supremacy in the burgeoning American physical culture fad, and he struggled to really find his niche until the Austrian Oak arrived on the bodybuilding scene. Built like a Greek god, dripping with machismo, and so tall and jacked he was like Hitler's wet dream (Hitler had an obsession bordering on sexual with men over six feet tall), Arnold was the only person who could have breathed life into a bodybuilding federation that was international only in name, screwed over competitors and promoters, and was basically run like an elementary school bake sale staffed by child molestors, organized by embezzlers, and which served only weed-infused edibles.

Tldr football head is cute and I'm a homo

Arnold's "Competition" History

Yes, yes, we've all heard that Arnold's seven Olympia wins makes him the benchmark for true greatness in the bodybuilding scene, though no one seems (much like the massive ignorance surrounding body phenotypes) to be willing to do an iota of research to determine who it was that Arnold beat. SPOILER ALERT- it was occasionally nobody or next to nobody, and the rest of the time it was either a bunch of nobodies or the game was rigged to ensure that Weider's prodigy (and his prodigy's best friend, Franco). And before the Arnold marks start screaming about my lack of qualifications to make such a statement, the fact that Arnold's steroid reign was vastly smaller than modern athletes, or any of the other half a million excuses and justifications they could make on the Oak's behalf, let's all bear in mind that at best, the lot of you likely have only read about the controversial 1980 Olympia, wherein Arnold was allegedly handed a victory by the judges. As you'll see in what follows, Arnold was pretty much handed every victory he achieved with the Weiders, and competing in a sport wherein the professional ranks were fledgling in all federations and the IFBB was one of the youngest and least entrenched, Arnold's victories over a couple of other physiques nearly impressive enough to make them bodybuilding versions of Annika Sorenstam... in a sport so subjective it makes open ended questions posed by drunk college girls at bars seem like objective-based interrogations.

lmaoing @ ur sad "life"
copy pasting this in just about every Arnold thread thrying and failing to bring based Arnold down

In case you didn't know, the Olympia in Arnold's day is hardly what it is now- it was barely a pimple on the ass of the "sport" of bodybuilding, and apparently the weightlifting world gave less than two shits about determining who was champion amongst what was then considered a complete sidebar to Olympic weightlifting and the emerging sport of powerlifting. If that seems odd to you, consider that Bernarr MacFadden's bodybuilding competition, held in 1903, had cash prizes of $500 (~$13k in 2016) for both the male and female winners... whereas the Olympia's prize in early years, despite being subsidized by the Weider publishing empire, was only $1000 ($7.6k in 2016 dollars) sixty years later. Arnold was the third Mr. Olympia in what was essentially a brand-new organization promoting professional bodybuilding in what was almost entirely an amateur sport, competing for small crowds, small prizes, and against very few people. Although all of the big names in bodybuilding were invited to the 1963 inaugural Mr. O, only three dudes showed up- Larry Scott, the youngest competitor in Olympia history, Harry Poole, and the above-pictured professional wrestler Earl Maynard. It was, as such, hardly a barn-burner of a competition. As the Olympia grew into the next decade, the size of its competitive pool was nearly as tiny, though it perceived importance was far greater as Weider's magazine empire ground out its compeition in a variety of sheisty, duplicitous, and shrewd (if horrendously shitty) legal and PR maneuvers.

As the field had hardly grown, Arnold faced very little true competition when he "competed" for the Olympia crown because the reigning Mr. Olympia was a black Cuban ex-pat, which made him about as appealing to your average white American in the late 1960s as quick-onset hemorrhagic fever in a community of hemophiliacs. With his only real competition coming from a man who "would run into ... problems" because "his cultural background wasn't in sync with [American] ideals" (Roach, Vol 1 367), Arnold's SS-Obersturmbannführer-good-looks made him the perfect golden boy for Weider, and if he failed, insanely photogenic Dave Draper (who took fourth out of four against Harold Poole, the amazingly brutal, always-zero-fucks-given, superhuman lumberjack Chuck Sipes, and the melanin-rich, precontest hamburger munching, genetic freak of a political refugee Sergio Oliva) could have stepped in without missing a single beat. Without missing a single beat, you say? Yeah- Sergio won UNCONTESTED in 1969 and lost in a two man field with Arnold in 1970.

YOU READ THAT RIGHT.
ARNOLD'S FIRST OLYMPIA WIN WAS AGAINST ONE PERSON.

>Dude on the left
>He doesn't know who Ronnie Coleman is.

So, Arnold's first win came in a racially-, politically-, and marketing-motivated judging climate against a single competitor. His second was hardly more impressive, as he beat a 50 year old Reg Lewis and Oliva, and his third win was a complete joke- in a field of four, three of the competitors were disqualified before the show (Sergio Oliva and Franco Columbo), and the third was perhaps the most insanely hard-training motherfucker in history, Roy Callender, but the guy was just an unknown former bodybuilder who retired from pro wrestling and loved lifting. The next year he beat Franco again, along with winner of the Most-Fucked-Over-Bodybuilder-in-History Serge Nubret. His fifth, you think might have been better, but nooooooo... Arnold beat 23 year old Lou Ferrigno, the midget Franco, and a half-starved zen monk named Frank Zane like a drunk xenophobes who had stumbled into Bruce Lee's dojo screaming sinophobic slurs. Yes, in a field of four totally outmatched humans, Arnold reigned supreme in his fourth win. Thereafter, he retired from competition, likely since there was no point to even showing up if he was declared victory, and only reacquired the interest in competing after training for Conan and getting back into decent bodybuilding shape for the first time in a couple of years. With only seven weeks of contest prep, Arnold won his seventh and final gift from the Weiders, setting a ridiculous and pointless benchmark for the title that people only respect because they are ignorant fucking handytards without an iota of curiosity or drive to do any semblance of research.

A healthy degree of skepticism can be useful when investigating what appears to be a conspiracy theory, and I will freely admit that much of what I've related here might smack a bit of a David Icke-style, the-reptilian-aliens-are-our-overlords, tinfoil hat lunacy, but consider the following:

According to Rick Wayne, professional bodybuilder and longtime Weider magazine editor, "It was no secret around the Weider headquarters that whenever the publisher featured a black champion on the cover of Muscle Builder, sales plummeted. Surely a champion who couldn't sell magazines was a close to useless as an endorser of food supplements and gym equipment" (Roach Vol II 35).

Sergio's 1970 Mr. Olympia loss was engineered. Wieder and Arnold were known to be close and had entered into several joint business ventures by 1970, and Weider's fate was increasingly tied to Arnold's. As such, Weider and Arnold convinced Sergio that Arnold was not competing at the 1970 Mr. World (though Weider had arranged private transportation to the event for Arnold), which precipitated Sergio's naive entry into the contest the day of the event and subsequent loss. This loss destroyed his confidence and interrupted his preparation for the Olympia, which was held two weeks later.

Due to the deception, Arnold was crowned Mr. World, run by Jim Lorimer, both of whom began co-promoting the Night of Champions a few years later in the same venue.

Onstage at the 1970 Mr. Olympia, Arnold tricked Oliva into leaving the stage as if he'd lost as Arnold kept posing. According to a variety of sources, this had a measurable effect on the judges in Arnold's favor, and guaranteed that Weider would have his fair-haired Mr. Olympia for Magazine covers.

Weider quickly passed rules banning IFBB competitors from competing in other organizations, which prevented any real competition from entering the Olympia and kept Arnold out of any competitions that would jeopardize Weider's investment, including an exhibition in 1972 in which both Arnold and Sergio would have been paid $2500 each to compete... at a time when only Mr. Olympia received prize money in that competition and the prize was less than half of Lurie's

In short, Arnold couldn't possibly be considered one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time- it could be argued that he was one of the top bodybuilders of his era, but that would still invite a tremendous amount of room in that conversation for other extremely overlooked bodybuilders from that time period, such as Robby Robinson (two-time Olympia Tall/Heavyweight Class), Sergio Oliva, and others. Additionally, a conversation about the greatest bodybuilders in history would hardly include a man who only learned to train legs after he started winning bodybuilding competitions... no matter how sick his genetics. I don't see Hany After all, when some of your chief competition comes from weirdly proportioned, smoother than a college freshman chick after a trip to Dairy Queen, and very likely autistic as fuck Mike Katz, it's pretty hard to drop the ball.

This isn't to say I lament the sort of machinations that led to Arnold's rise to prominence as a foreigner who married into American aristocracy, one of the highest paid actors of all time, the prime motivator for most of our collective entry into the field of weight lifting, the man who paved the way for the inimitable and underrespected Dolph Lundgren (who punched Stallone so hard in Rocky IV he stopped the actor's heart), and generally one of the greatest public personalities of all time- Arnold is the unmitigated shit. He simply wasn't the bodybuilder everyone thinks he was... unless recent Conan Jason Momoa should be included in a discussion of great bodybuilders, because Momoa's physique is not far off from Arnold in his prime, at this point.

Stop starfucking. Start reading. Dicks out for Harambe. Lets all stop being fucking retarded, eh? Jack off to pics of Ronnie or something- at least he was strong, for fuck's sake.

How's your first three months of lifting going?

Why should I know who an average steroid abuser is and why should I care?

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>Arnold only won because he was bigger and better than his competition

>Anecdotal evidence
Great rebuttal champ

huge shredded glutes > career in Hollywood

Ronnie and those like him get fucking chub rub. Lol.