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Luke Murphy
reposting since the old one pretty much died, my apologies
I've got a couple 5kgs hand weights and a nice, big park to run in. Which one should I focus on if I want to steadily lose weight while gaining a little bit of a bulk without becoming a skellington/have my skin become loose? I'm about 105kgs, imperial system be damned
Cooper Brooks
How many calories you guys think this is if I only ate the chicken and cheese? No bread or rice.
Dylan Butler
1500 calories
Nolan Evans
>270 for 9oz chicken >135 for whatever teriyaki is used >345 for 3oz of cheddar cheese.. 750 calories
That's my guess.
He said no rice or bread, you have about what I calculated before I read the last bit.
Gavin Roberts
haven't had pecans in ages
Ayden Robinson
Help, /fat/. I bought a ton of pork and don't know how to cook it without olive oil. It's already crazy high in calories, so I don't want to go further than that. My oven is broken. Do I resort to boiling it?
too many for you to be eating. Might as well just eat it all and nothing else for the day.
You're not going to become a skellington and your skin isn't going to be loose. Run 5km/day, do pushups instead of those hand weights. Maybe use them for flys.
Dominic Rivera
off the top of my head
most 1/4th cup of ched cheese is about 110cals.
and 1oz of chicken is approx 46cal but it looks covered in something else which may up it
im gonna guess this is 220cal for the cheese
and maybe 276 for around 6oz of chicken if it were plain. (hard to tell size of container)
so probably at least, 496 cal
Isaac White
I'd add 50 calories for the beans and another 50 or so for rice that gets stuck to the cheese. Probably ends up being 850 or so.
David Butler
Thanks. I feel for the high fat low carb meme and I think the cheese just ruined me for the day. I guess next time I'll not order cheese.
I fuck it up EVERY TIME
Luke James
could buy a cheap 20$ crockpot desu or could pan cook it with water
>Post your fucking dinner edition Dinner for me yesterday was KFC.
And the night before that was Smashburger.
And before that Panera Bread.
Connor Scott
My dinner yesterday.
It tasted like taco bell.
Aiden Moore
I feel you bro. Dairy will fuck your shit up. Don't sweat it though. Just be mindful next time.
Colton Harris
Mum made me banofee pie :/
Aiden Howard
I was told cheese would make me fuller and to eat more of it, but, yeah the calories are off the charts. No way I can eat 1700 calories in a day and have much of any cheese. Maybe an oz or so.
I can't decide if this high fat thing is a meme or not.
Elijah Martin
>It tasted like taco bell. Taco Bell sounds really good right now.
Carson Morris
what retart told you that cheese made you more full
Daniel Harris
What do you lads put in your coffee for those who dont like it black?
Camden Turner
Multiple threads about high fat low carb and now fat is more satiating and don't spike your glucose and carbs just make you hungry. Dr. Jason Fung gets posted by the intermittent fasting people and he says the same thing.
But I don't know if I believe it. I do believe carbs just make me hungry. Because I know if I eat pancakes in the morning I'm hungry at like 10am, versus with eggs I'm hungry at noon. But I donno.
Owen Wright
I used lemon juice, chili powder, garlic powder, some onion, tiny bit of green curry paste, a tiny bit of salt, pepper (i love pepper i always use a lot) tumeric and cilantro. (being personal choice i know ppl dont like cilantro) i think thats it
and the sauce on it is a chili hummus.
Austin Howard
it's not a meme. fat is satiating. and the calories work out. if you were to eat as much cheese as you could or as much bread as you could, you would eat more bread, and then you would feel hungry again a couple hours later and would eat even more bread. you would not eat as much cheese because you would feel full and because it isn't carbs it will not bump up your insulin levels and you won't feel hungry again a few hours later.
fat in your diet can go a long way in helping you eat less. it's not really a meme because there is a scientific explanation behind it. fat is calorie dense but nobody expects you to replace two slices of bread with two slices of cheddar 1:1.
Connor Long
I switched to Monster Zero ULTRA (tm)(r)(all rights reserved)(do not copy)(no stealing)(not a shill i promise)
Luke Hernandez
I tell people if they're hungry they dont have enough protein. that or they're not drinking enough water.
I cut out most dairy products myself desu and seldom use it.
but, a dr prob knows better than me. lol never have i heard people say to eat dairy. ive had all my fit friends tell me to cut back on it.
Isaac Hall
sent ;^)
happy birthday fatty
high fat does satiate you. It just doesn't mean you should eat high calorie. Stop eating cheese.
Angel Perez
Just had two big steaks because keto.
Jeremiah Stewart
But that little bit of cheese on my lunch was like 350 calories when I added it up. I don't think it was all that filling.
Plus isn't dairy bad?
I read that you can only take in like 40grams of protein at a time for it to get used, but that's another thing from Dr. Jason Fung which I'm iffy about trusting.
Jace White
You able to eat whatever you want on keto provided it isn't carbs/sugar?
Juan Brooks
No. You still eat under maintenance, it just helps some people beat hunger and is supposed to preserve muscle more because your body begins to burn fat as energy instead of carbs. Results vary, many people get sick and disoriented on a keto diet. Works miracles for others.
Matthew James
I just had a ice cream sundae with chocolate, nuts, bananas, sprinkles, and cherries. How fucked am I? I'm pretty sure it was a least 7000 calories.
Levi Russell
Go vomit right now. Get as much out as you can. If it's too late then for fucks sake don't eat anything else for today or tomorrow and have some damn self control next time.
Isaac Ramirez
If you're breaking it up throughout the day and being active enough to compensate for what you're doing then 30-40 in one sitting is optimal. from what im also reading. I'd never heard of that. :)
Henry Rivera
no dinner but i just had a big win. i can see a vein on my hand. i feel fucking happy.
Aaron Wood
You gotta eat good amount of protein but still have a caloric deficit. I ate probably 700kcal or less in these two steaks.
Keto is easy and I don't actually feel hunger, I'm doing it more for the protein since I'm lifting AND losing weight.
Like said, sometimes I get sick and disoriented on keto, other times I don't. Really varies.
Gavin Ortiz
Thanks. What's the max amount of carbs you can eat? Does it need to be absolutely zero or if 10 sneak in are you alright? Long time ago I did adkins diet and I think it was 20g carbs for a limit.
Xavier Russell
As a guy losing weight, I agree, it's a pretty good feeling.
Logan Fisher
it was probably around 300-700cal depending on size and where you got it, etc. weight lift/calisthenics for half an hour to an hour. you'll be ok. just dont keep doing it.
and dont puke.
Carson Gutierrez
Same, I'm still 10 kgs overweight but my veins are beginning to show up on my forearms it's a really nice feeling.
Dylan Powell
stop buying premade food you fat fuck. cooking your own food is the only way to accurately measure calories
Lincoln Carter
I remember that feel . . . Keep going user. This might sound weird but take progress pic of your hands. Loosing sausage fingers was a good feel.
Angel James
Thanks user :o)
Blake Nelson
help me out lads, family filled the fridge, the cheesebread sandwich looks like a tempting option but I want to stop eating those
I'm thinking 2 chicken thigh pieces, some rice, and 1 corn on the cob
however I have no idea what I want for vegetables, thinking of dicing some avocado but it tastes like shit when I prepare it, what do?
Gavin Foster
The rule is no more than 5% of your diet, which can be pretty hard. No milk, no tiny amount of carbs, nothing.
Nathan Miller
I'm a wageslave that is often on the road, so I just do my best to pick something that won't make me weigh over 9,000-lbs. It sucks, because yeah at home is way easier.
Luke James
Broil it (UK grilling)
Liam Brown
tiny bit of lemon or lime, some garlic, some chili pepper or cheyenne pepper. you can spread it on the chicken/etc if you want
BUT:
honestly the stuff you listed 2 chicken some rice and 1 corn is enough imo unless you're trying to bulk. maybe save the avocado for a snak bbz
Christopher Adams
They have grocery stores inbetween places. there's no excuse.
Ethan Peterson
(btw tiny bit of salt wont kill u) it helps with avocado
Isaac Powell
I have lunch meetings, and have to eat with people, and same with dinner, whenever I'm on the road.
Brandon Bennett
hows this with cardio most days for weight loss? too much? too little? too retarded?
Justin Phillips
>Plus isn't dairy bad? it's bad if you believe in the saturated fat is bad for you myth.
Isaiah Anderson
>I have lunch meetings, and have to eat with people, and same with dinner, whenever I'm on the road. aren't you supposed to be pitching them things?
order something small faggot
Gabriel Perez
i just buy black bear sliced honey turkey prepackaged. its ~250 cal for ~42g of protein. downer is the high sodium content but if you're doing cardio youll sweat it all out.
Liam Cruz
i lost a lot of weight when i was in uni but since i finished i've been putting it back on.
but i'll never forget the feeling of the watch i wear getting progressively looser and looser on my wrist. and feeling clothes get less tight. i'm gonna sort myself out.
Leo Wilson
Eat less at the dinners you have with people if you cannot absolutely eat something else and pick something else up.
if you're worried about being hungry during that time then drink tons of water before hand and bring packets of oats with you or dried fruit.
make healthier choices while you're out - and stop letting people enable you/using others as an excuse.
my family and friends make me food all the time and I decline.
im sorry if im coming off aggressive but really it just sounds like excuses.
I have two jobs, and barely time to sleep. but, i still make it a point to be healthy.
Nathaniel Martinez
you fucked up and you know it. you lost the battle, my suggestion is eat nothing else today. drink coffee / diet soda for appetite suppression and take your mind off food. play video games or watch movies.
Cooper Ramirez
Engineering them things, mostly I sit quite while Chad talks and then do the work. I'm generally good about at least attempting to eat well though.
Thanks. Yeah, I get offered all kinds of drinks and rich deserts and stuff. I'm pretty good at turning them down now. Generally when I fuck up it's because, like today, I just made the wrong choice based on a good effort (thought maybe cheese would make me fuller/be a good idea).
No worries, appreciate the help.
James Walker
>I have no valuable input so I stuff my face with sugar coated french fries injected with cheese
gas yourself
Isaac Parker
>ice cream sundae with chocolate, nuts, bananas, sprinkles, and cherries >300 - 700 calories
Anthony Morgan
that was chicken, not sugar coated french fries.
Oliver Jackson
If I fuckup I just workout, or try to and eat light the rest of the day. :) it's ok just keep trying to get better.
If I get hungry i drink 250ml of water and then wait an hour.
oats or a quick protein shake (I use NOW because it's low carb decent protein mixed with water and a bit of honey [for taste] or some sort of milk but i opt for almond.) make me full if i dont have time/am lazy.
Austin Bailey
>27 friends >gets trips c-can you share some?
Joseph Harris
It's literally over mate.
Aiden Carter
>when you step on the scale and the tenth number is a new number
feels good. I'm basically the same weight I was when I had surgery on my leg. But I'm still obese and need to keep cutting.
Liam Sullivan
what surgery dude?
I had a tumor cut out of my calf a month ago. Still can't walk 100% right
Kayden Hill
yes. it depends where you got it and how big it was.
but if you want breakdown:
265 for base ice cream 110 for the nan sprinkles it depends but 20cal/tblspn give take brand etc. nuts probably hmmm. 170cal for maybe 30g cherries would be insignificant if they're regular but they're about 8cal each chocolate prob 110
so it's a better ballpark of: 675 give or take.
so, still. workout for half an hour to an hour.
Justin King
>the tenth number is a new number >the tenth what?
Daniel Flores
>tenth number what
Jayden Rodriguez
the decimal
>206.4 pounds the .4 is the tenth after that is hundredths, thousandths and so on
Carson Ross
>measuring progress with the tenth place holy shit you fucking retard
Juan James
seriously?
Andrew Diaz
Don't listen to the guy saying you should go throw up, don't start doing that shit, it becomes a crutch. Just don't eat anything else today.
Cameron Ross
p-please reply
Easton Wood
it's a good starting point. :) just make sure you're counting your nutrition intakes and you'll be ok. :) && write your progress down.
Robert Lopez
Oh shit
I'm actually laughing
Luis Brooks
excuses excuses. I guarantee wherever you bought that bowl of shit had a bunch of lower calorie options.
Daniel Sullivan
Only count the tenth if it's greater than .5 you fucking imbecile
Jack Garcia
Dairy is bad as a matter of calorie counting. Milk has about the same calorie density as soda, and it just gets worse from there.
Grayson Taylor
>Milk has about the same calorie density as soda with 8 grams of protein and more fats
meaning the macros are much more balanced and milk is a much healthier alternative to soda
Ryder Hill
what did he mean by this?
Easton Cox
it's not just about cals in cals out.
you have to consider the nutritional value.
drinking soda as an excuse instead of milk is just fucking retart
soda has copious amounts of sodium, can stretch your stomach out perm, make you feel like shit, not to mention other toxins and none of the nutrition milk does.
Jordan Rivera
I was just assuming he could mean that his weight only changes every 10 times he steps on a scale
Ian Gomez
But it is
Luis Hughes
I'm going to go to the gym to try weightlifting for the first time on Wednesday. What should i wear? Is there any etiquette i should know? Also should i follow guidelines for cutting if I'm wanting to build muscle mass?
Mason Wood
holy fuck i think im just a delusional fat guy instead of a bulking manly man I tought I was. I hate this tire around my belly and huge legs that make me look like a fucking yoga girl thanks to SS. does 5'7 185 sound as a fit bear mode person or delusional fat?
>captcha related macho horne
Nicholas Hall
oops, I just meant the middle number. Like I went from 230 to 229.
Ryan Powell
>ss while fat
Don't do that, man. Jesus... SS is for skinny dude or for when you lose all your fat.
Jacob Lopez
>damage control thanks for giving me laughs before I head out to the gym
Jose Bell
no it's not. pls stop. this is why y'all are so fucking fat.
Jaxon White
>damage control by handing out (you)s like candy
nah m8.
Joshua Harris
I did that when I started, now I train ppl with high volume. I'm gonna start PSMF tomorrow and get fit while saving money for steroids, sounds like a good plan?
Isaiah Evans
that's the ten not the tenth
Thomas Gonzalez
yeah, the lower calorie option was no cheese...which, i'll do next time.
Hunter Bailey
Just lift and cut normally, forget this fucking meal replacement meme
David Cooper
fuck I literally look like jason blaha why am I so delusonal about how fat I am? I mean I used to be 250 pounds of pure fatness but still
Jaxson Cook
why? PSMF is faster and I am also on testosterone so I should preserve my muscle mass better than normal people
Nicholas Perez
my advice is tight but not too tight clothing so it doesnt snag on things. just dont drop weights or be really loud. females dont want to talk too you and if you're cutting while bulking do high protein low etc and eat at a deficit still and i reccomment 1600-2500cals (I stay at 1400-1600 and get 100G+ protein a day)
it's extremely important to count cals and nutrition when you're doing this.
it's not til you run out of fat reserves that you have to be like "oh sht"
if you want a list of food reccommend eating like a lot of calisthenic body builders on youtube do and you'll be ok.