About to meet with my doctor regarding naturally occurring gynecomastia. Anyone go down this route before...

About to meet with my doctor regarding naturally occurring gynecomastia. Anyone go down this route before? Any advice would be appreciated. I'm in Canada if that makes any difference.

Thought I had bitch tits but I just lost weight and worked out my chest..turns out I was just fat af. Have u tried losing weight first user?

yeah man, ive lost about 20 lbs, down to about 187 right now. pretty vascular, and have abs showing. could probably still loose a few more but im 99% sure its gyno, not just excess fat

being 187lbs tells me absolutely nothing.

for all i know u are still >20% bodyfat

dont get surgery before u have tried dropping to 10-12%. this is simply because VAST MAJORITY of 'gynos' posted here are fukkeen always from skinnyfats who dont understand they are still FAT. ITS FUCKING UNFORTUNATE FAT STORAGE IN CHEST.

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heres a piic, it doesnt look like gyno in this pic i dont think. But when i wear certain shirts or if its warm out i get really puffy nipples.

>tfw you spend so much time in a chinese tranny board that you become so insecure about every inch of yourself

That's definitely gyno. It's not a lot but it's gyno. You're gonna need surgery.

I feel you bro, my gyno sucks and is a crippling insecurity of mine. I hate having to wear undershirts Everytime, and just in general hate having to be concious of the type of material I'm wearing. My puffy nipples ruin any aesthetics I could have. Especially in tshirts. Nonetheless , you look great brah, and your "gyno" is pretty much moot. Mine on the other hand..... Please just kill me now

Are you kidding dude dont waste your money. Even if there is gyno somewhere there its not noticable at all.

>People think this is gyno
>People with bodies like these are worried about how they look in shirts
>People like this meet with surgeons and consider surgery

No. You have no gyno, what you have is a really low self-esteem and/or body dysmorphia. I had level 3 gyno (as in, nipples below the breast fold pointing 45 degrees down on my normal weight), had surgery 1.5 months ago, and I will likely never have a flat chest or even normal looking nipples.

You look fucking great. You're a young, buff and smooth skinned white guy. Fuck paying to meet a surgeon for issues you don't have - go fucking slay all the women I never could, Anons. Godspeed.

I did. I have puffy nipples and he did a breast exam, and concluded that I did not have gyno. He said they'd go away if I lost weight. I'm not sure how much I buy it. I was around 18% at the time, im at 15% now and still have them.

free Canadian health care gave you tittys.. u should be grateful

jalen?

I appreciate your kind words but I definitely have gyno. I tried to pose in a way that would make it more prominent, but seriously look at how my pec rounds at the bottom like a literal titty? It's so embarrassing and I hate myself for it

Dude seriouslly im telli n you im looking for it and have it myself and your case is so minimal that i almost dont believe it. It shouldnt hold you back in any way at all save the money and go slay girls you have a made it bod bro no homo

im telling you man my friends all tease me about it, that might be just because ive mentioned to them its an insecurity of mine but still... shit hits deep ;_; . thanks tho user, ill take an extra scoop in your name before todays workout

Went trough it 3 times before giving up.

>1 visit with endocrinologyst
>tells me to wait because I'm losing weight
>years later visit another endocrinologyst
>get appointment with surgeon
>fucking piece of shit woman that embarassed me
>need them to call me to set an appointment
>they never do
>contact them
>"yes we'll let you know next week"
>never heard from them again
>try with a very expensive and famous surgeon
>200€ only for the visit
>3k€ for the operation
>wanna go trough with it
>have to postpone appointment for second visit because problems
>they stop answering my calls after that

And I just said fuck it.

I'm beginning to feel I fell for a troll. There's no way this is real.

Get new friends. That shit is hardly fucking noticeable.

If you have $4000 laying around, go for it but I would 100% spend that on something else

I am on the same boat, user. In certain weather and light, you cant really tell. But when it gets warm, or I dont have a pump, my nipple really puffs up.
I have low body fat, but my left chest seems to have like an excessive amount of fat built up.

>tfw 10-15 pounds underweight growing up but still had gyno tits sticking into my shirt

OP here, i just got back from the doctors, and he literally said exactly what you said. He said you dont have gyno. Gyno is behind the nipple, and that lump i was feeling was just the muscle that makes the nipple contract. We came to the agreement that it was a little body dismorphia and lack of self confidence.

Learn to push up and you will lose it.

>We came to the agreement that it was a little body dismorphia and lack of self confidence
When you say "we", you actually mean the doctor told you this and you nodded and by this time tomorrow you'd be convinced again that you have gyno, or some other bodily mutation or syndrome, right? Because there's no way someone who looks like you and is convinced they have gyno will let go of this stupid fucking idea just 'cause a doctor said so.

Kinda want to suck on your nipples. No homo.

OP here man, just got back from the doctors, and he said i was normal. And from looking at you keeping in mind what he talked to me about is exactly how i felt. I felt crazy insecure and hated myself for it. If anyone's gonna say something its probably someone out of shape trying to bring you down to their level.
I wont be able to change the way i see my nipples right away because of what a doctor said, but im coming to understand that it is body dismorphia holding me back from being happy with with i got. If you dont have something like pic related then, learn to try and understand its your mind fucking with your self image and try and get over it like im going to be doing.

Gyno occurs because of a build up of excess of estrogen in the body.

If you're really worried eat alot of cruciferous vegetables and take a greens supplement.

Take a dose of Vitamin E, Zinc, Vitamin B6 (P5P), and Resveratrol.

Also keeping a lower body fat will help.

This will help get rid of excess waste estrogen and prolactin in the body.

you think the better answer is continually worry and look to seek out answers that go against my doctors opinion and look for solutions for a problem he doesnt believe exists? Instead of trying to be happy with the shape I'm in and working to make it better?

>Gyno occurs because of a build up of excess of estrogen in the body
>Lots of mambo jumbo that supposedly helps keep estrogen low
No, nigger. There's gyno as result of extreme hormonal imbalance that either goes away (teenagers getting pumped with test) or stays (gym rats injecting steroids), or the result of genetic disposition which you can literally do nothing about. Gyno and large nipples run in my family, My grandfather had it, my brother had it and I have it, and we're not obese or even fat nor did any of us injected steroids.

Sometimes, you're just fucked by the genetical lottery. That's just life.

No, sonny, I'm saying someone with your level of body dismorphia will not just give it up after one doctor told them they don't have gyno. You will likely find something else to feel nervous about. Seek professional help to confront the root of your insecurities.

>pic unrelated

I totally agree with you on that, and i told him that too. He said to me, you've thought you've had gyno for over 6 years now, and i know your not going to change your mind after what i say. But just knowing a doctor doesnt think i have it is going to help me change the way i see it. He told me to come back and see him if im still having a problem thinking i have gyno.

Good luck man. Go fuck some women who will literally lick your abs and tell you you look like a roman god, that should raise your confidence.

That mumbo jumbo will help you with any gyno symptons but stay ignorant you bitch tit nigger.

if it really bothers you look into letrozole
Work up to a 2.5 mg dose Every day and keep on it 3 days to a week until the puffiness disappears
t. cheating fraud who aromatizes like a motherfucker

t. someone who knows nothing about gynocomastia and never seen anyone with it ever.

When your shaman spirits bullshit get to reduce breast tissue in humans, please publish a medical article and get a patent on your formula, you'll get billions from big pharma.

I had gyno surgery. doc took a shit ton out since it was pretty severe. It was like two tennis balls underneath my skin.

How many grams?
Any lipo?

doc said he took about a liter out and he did some slight lipo around the area to help even things out.

>tfw your chest looks like this but you're also 100 lbs/50kg overweight
>still have to lose a ton of weight to find out
>gyno or not will have bitch tits all through the process.

I had a similar problem, cutting from 270 -> 183 (today) still have a high BF% but I've noticed that over the last 10lbs they've really started to shrink.

I'm thinking I might be in the clear

funny enough I started at 270 as well. (maintain 230 these days). There's a guy I know with bigger tits than me. thing is he used to be fuarkn juicy. I'm hoping that like him I have really unfortunate fat storage. I have such a long way to go.

its comments like these that dig deep. Thanks user, you made my day that much worse.

ITT: people with fat tits think they have gyno and want to blow a few hundred to thousands of dollars on surgery when they could just eat less, exercise, and buy a could bottles of yohimbine.

pic related, faggots.

I still dont know if im supposed to take the 16mg all at once or throughout the day. until then this infographic means nothing to me

all at once r-tard

I did that the first time i cycled it, but when i bought another bottle to try it again a lot of forums had people mentioning they took a half dose twice a day. Sorry senpai, thanks for the help

you take it in the morning and don't eat breakfast. can do some cardio for added benefit. insulin counters its effect so taking it after or just before eating is pointless.

but I eat every 3-4 hours so it's useless for me.

Why is Veeky Forums so concerned about nipples.

>at 15% now and still have them
sorry to be an ass, but: duh

If you have gyno, is it a solid mass, or can it feel like a circular mass? I have tissue behind my nipple, but I hear people say that it's like a ball behind it, while mine feels like it's donut shaped. Immediately behind the nipple is empty but outside the aureola there's something.

Going to sound like a faggot,
Im female with a breast deformity that makes them look like this picture. Im having surgery next Friday for it, really nervous.

Its such a shameful thing to have, and i can agree its worse if youre a man with this. Never doubt getting surgery

Stay strong mates

>everyone on this board thinks they have gyno because muscle is moving fat around to their nipples
>Go on a cut for a while
>goes away

remains of however minor pubertal gyno. most ex-fat kids actually have it without really noticing. only worry if it doesn't go away at ridiculously low bf% or you get other gyno symptoms.

or so I was told. someone else please chime in to either confirm or call me a retard.

That's how some twats did it for some soccer study. Lyle says all at once and do the cardio.

>but I eat every 3-4 hours

Why?

And do you have to eat first thing in the fucking morning, after waking up? Take the yo then and do some cardio. It's not rocket science, man.

I'm in the process of losing weight, how much more do I have to lose before I can be sure this is gyno?

>how much more do I have to lose before I can be sure this is gyno?
A lot, also you need to work your chest more. I was losing weight for the longest time and thought I had gyno, worked my chest more and stuck to a low calorie diet and realized I was overthinking

Not him but what did you do for chest? I'm on a cut and I usually do bench, incline db bench, cable flyes, and dips, and it doesn't seem to do much for me

I go to work 5/7 days at 5am. I can fast for 3-4 hours, but won't be able to do any cardio until I get home from work ~4pm, is there any point to taking it?

Couldn't hurt

I visited my doc about Gyno a while ago. Had ultrasounds done revealing some rather small lumps, nothing that was too big apparently.

After blood work revealing lower test but normal estrogen levels, the doc decided to put me on pic related.

Been doing well ever since. Apparently Tamoxifen is used for women with breast cancer, and stops estrogen cells from working at breast tissue.

Doing a follow up soon once my dosage runs out, but the doc is happy with it so far.

So that's been my experience. If you're early enough the doc may want to put you on Tamoxifen.

Tamoxifen stops working when you stop taking it.

Yeah, but the idea of Tamoxifen is to stop breast tissue from forming/turning to scar tissue while fixing the root cause of the breast tissue growing in the first place through other means.

fuck ton of pushups almost daily as well as a good amount of what you stated

This only works if taken during or shortly after puberty, or if for some reason your test levels fall sharply and stay low. Otherwise, it's just gonna come back.

Post pic

And for my case, it was due to fast weight gain and dropped T levels. It's a case by case basis, definitely, but in my case it's been working alright.

does this fucking idiot honestly think anyone thinks that is gyno or that a single person even notices it? I am marginally higher bf % than you,toned but with less defined abs and my nipples have enlarged from my gyno and they literally poke out of my shirt,i cant even close my finger under my nipple cause the tissue is so large,dude you have 100% normal nips

you guys dont have gyno for shit,just enlarged nipples and possibly a very tiny lump,my nipples stick out like 2 cm cause of mine...honestly yours is not even noticable

>Gyno

Hypogonadism is literally worse than being a bald, ugly, manlet. Having low test literally means you can be dominated by anyone with normal test levels. Socially and romantically. Women can pick up subconsciously and will leave you without ever really knowing why. Enjoy your shitty sperm count btw, have fun knowing that no matter how many times you try and fail to knock up your bull dyke fat gf, chad will impregnate her in one go. Low test basically fucks you up everywhere and makes you a huge cuck.

it won't you stupid fuck,i have tried all of those ,i am surprised people even believe this.How does someone even think taking a bunch of supplements that literally anyone can buy even at their local supermarket would be able to destroy hardened fibrous breast tissue

Holy fuck man run some AI with your cycle what are you doing

i had it,tamoxifen saved me and when i stopped it slowly came back,slightly worse too .Stay on tamoxifen till you cn afford surgery then get it removed

if I go to a gyno doc can I find out definitively if I have gyno or not.

I had it, went to numerous doctors and specialists, they all told me surgery was really the only permanent option. Had surgery back in 2015. Chest has been flat ever since. Shits expensive though, expect to spend at least $8500

I have a fat chest at 17% bf.
I wish I had gyno because in france you can get the healcare to pay for the surgery.

>really nervous
Don't be. You'll likely do it under full anesthesia, you'll go into the O.R., lie on the table, they'll inject the solution to your vein and BAM! you'll wake up in the recovery room, all bandaged up. Have someone be with you to wait there for you when you wake up, you might be groggy and nurses and/or the doctor will want to talk to you immediately afterwards, give you instructions etc., so it's good to have someone sober listen in. I was slightly out of focus so I apparently told the doctor (I don't remember this), "look, I know what you're saying is important, but knowing how anesthesia works I'll probably won't remember anything - could you please repeat that later again when I'm on my feet?". He agreed and came back the next morning (I was there for the night).

If you need a breast lift you will likely have a "lollipop" scar around each areola - that's the thing that would bother me most, like how my scars forming scare me now. Don't worry, it's gonna be OK, trust your surgeon's experience and your body's ability to heal.

I heard they do lipo and breast tissue removal. is it possible to just get the breast tissue removed and I'll lose the fat on my own?

That depends on your fat distribution. Many gyno cases are made more extreme since there's too much fat around the chest area, making lipo necessary. But consult a licensed plastic surgeon if you're really serious about it.

What the fuck is wrong with you fags?

Thinking you need fucking surgery because you have puffy nips

brb saving up 10 grand for tit surgery

If your gyno is as extreme as some of the cases I've seen, it's worth every fucking dollar. Some people are lucky enough that their health insurance covers the costs.

>implying letrozole works

I think he was just saying your pecs were joocy.