>Do nothing but OHP >Get told by Veeky Forums that my shoulders are DYEL mode >Start doing lateral raises as well >Get told by Veeky Forums I have good delts and naturally wide shoulders
Did anyone else fall for the "OHP is all you need for shoulders" meme?
Easton Fisher
>doing OHP in stronglifts >seeing hardly no shoulder gains
so i need to include lateral raises?
Is it better to go as heavy as i can in the 5-7 rep range or should I go lower weight/higher reps?
Adrian Green
I do 10-20 reps
Jacob Martinez
Never go really heavy it quickly turns into you tossing the weights up using mostly your traps. For lat raises stick to around 12 reps or so, do them slowly and controlled, but make sure to actually fatigue the muscle(obviously)
Levi Perez
i have this broscience theory that muscleparts who are constantly in movement and under preasure react better to high reps rather than 3x5 or whatever like calves, shoulders, wrists perhaps etc
William Fisher
Do some face pulls faggot.
Ian Walker
OHP + lateral raises + rear delt flys
there you go, all you need.
You're a retard if you train front deltoids considering theyre the most overworked muscle in the entire body
Matthew Collins
Behind the neck presses, face pulls and lateral raises are the perfect combination for big, powerful delts.
OHP is a full body strength and function exercise and deserves recognition for that, not as a shoulder builder. There are better shoulder builders if you have the mobility for them.
Carson Davis
You have bad shoulder genetics.
Jackson Morales
This. My front delts are way bigger than my side and rear delts because of all the pressing I do. When I see people doing front raises I just think "why?"
Alexander Allen
not the guy you quoted but im doing an upper/lower split. what's a good rep range assuming i do 3-4 sets of each exercise on different upper days?
Benjamin Cox
I do 3x5 for OHP and the rest 3x8(as heavy with good form that I can)
it really doesnt matter if its 5 reps or 12 as long as its the heaviest you can perform those reps/the last rep is the last one you can perform it's been proven and shown in a lot of studies, I prefer doing more reps and ligther weight on acessories but still bringing it to failure like you do in those 3x5 where the last rep is really the last rep you can do
Dylan Wilson
Also how do I properly do lateral raises? Most people do them with their arms straight out and at their sides, but other people say you should lean forward a bit so your hands are in front of your legs?
Aaron Perez
post pictures before & after adding in lateral raises
David Butler
What are you opinions on seated shoulder dumbell presses in the 5x5 range? Currently doing 60lb dumbbells.
Elijah Brooks
You fucking nailed it. My shouldersare popping out like crazy amd the only time i isolate them is lateral raises at 3×20 with 10lb dumbells
Luke Young
Shoulders need heavy work (OHP) as well as lighter isolation movements. The shoulder is actually made of 7 different muscles and you need variation to hit them all effectively.
I always do incline bench shoulder raises to end my workout. Using a 15 lb dumbbell I do sets of 10 out in front, behind my back and then at a 45 degree angle to hit the shoulder from every angle.
Christian Reyes
>Did anyone else fall for the "OHP is all you need for shoulders" meme? Yes, me too
Brandon Lewis
Dog, I've had the exact same experience.
Jeremiah Clark
Are rear delt flies and facepulls the same muscle?
Chase Phillips
pretty true
Charles Ward
This
Colton Long
One arm dumbbell press is the goat.
Ethan Green
>Able to do 80lb dumbbell shoulder press >Told my girl that my shoulders weren't attractive >Started doing lateral raises >"user, you have such massive shoulders"
I haven't stopped doing lateral raises
Noah Perez
You're probably doing OHP wrong.
But a lot comes down to bone structure and muscle insertion points.
Some lifts are better for certain things for certain people.
My shoulders respond very well to both.
Cameron White
I just do 3-5x3-5 OHP 4-5x10-20 Lu raises with baby weight
shoulders+traps are goat
Christian Gonzalez
lean forwards bend your elbows and knees slightly and DO NOT raise your elbows above your shoulders because you will snap your shit up
William Russell
>Adding volume works
wow you should be a scientist!!!!
Daniel Ross
enjoy your fat supraspinatus and your impigment you fucking fagot >7 different muscles
Joshua Howard
>all these people haven't been doing lateral raises already
r u dumb?
Jaxon Jenkins
How do I add snatch presses into my routine (Greyskull LP)? I can do 43 kg for 8 reps and symmetric strength tells me that makes me "proficient" (1 rep max would be 55kg apparently) although I've only tried them once and have only been liftan for 6 weeks. Also I've heard they're great for rear delts/traps and not nearly as harmful as some people pretend. I'm thinking of rotating them with Dips (do dips on OHP days and Snatch Press on Bench days), keeping the reps high (probably 8). Would that be ok or are they too similar to OHP? Would really like to do those as it seems like I'd be good at them.
Isaiah Harris
Yea been thinking bout that too. My lifts are shit tho so once I get good numbers and my calves/traps/forearms are still shitty I'll prob increase reps.
Christopher Thompson
its not broscience, its slow twitch vs fast twitch muscle fibers. Slow twitch fibers are the ones that are designed to work for hours on end. These are your shoulders, your traps, your calves, your forearms and hands and feet. So if they are deigned to work for long times, then you have to work them with little weight for a long time in order to see volume growth. Why do you think swimmers have such good shoulders? because they use them to swim for HOURS on end, everyday.
Fast twitch muscles are the ones designed to produce much more force, but they fatigue much more easily. So triceps, biceps, quads hamstrings etc etc. These muscles respond better to explosive workouts, lots of weight, but less repetitions, since they fatigue more easily.
Jacob Hill
read more into it, do not believe me just because I said something that complies with what yu believe.
This does not epply to people who consume anabolic steroids.