If a female-to-male transgender gets fit is "he" natty or juicy?

>a guy with vagina
why does this turn me on more than a chick with a cunt

>boipucci and grillpucci all in one
how can cisfags even compete?

>left was literally perfect tomboymode
WHY IS THIS FUCKING ALLOWED

i agree. left is amazing. right has bigger muscles than me. what the fuck. what's the point in natty lifting seriously when some mentally ill woman can get so big

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No, she's a mentally ill woman on hormones.

>why does this turn me on more than a chick with a cunt
You're really really gay

imgur.com/a/MDr2J

which one?

why does she look good either way? the only trans surgery that works is FtM. otherway around only produces mongrels

can you fags just come out of the closet already

left, dat hit to waist ratio, also if she shaved her legs and wore a paper bag

Fat chick with a dick of course, but that's because I hate myself

>needs exogenous testosterone
>needs anormally high levels of testosterone
>XX tissue is more sensitive to androgens than XY tissue
What do you think? It's not transphobia to not let trans people compete, is human phisiology.

Objective concepts are transphobic, user.

We truly live in a fucked up world. This outpatient get's legally prescribed testosterone and at the same time MEN who want to become more masculine need to buy chinese bathtub chemicals and will get a fine for possessing steroids.

No. Androgens close and enlongate the lips, lower the ovaries, and extend the clitoris in order to form a fully developed (albeit, small) male gonad. That's how you and I got our penises (and all males), except we had that transition while we were in our mothers' uterus.
I don't know how they do it when they manage to keep a vagina in spite of the HRT, I mean, women using roids can end up with a penis if they're not careful.

NIPPLE ALERT

pics?

asking for a friendo

Looks a lot happier as a woman desu

Still got tiny fem hands

>muh fat chicks
I'll check those fat double dubs, too

Sad thing is - most women would take """him""" over 90% of guys without even thinking about it.

>there are only fat chicks or feminine men
No, you coping homo

Chicks on hormones don't end up with a dick

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He's attractive, yeah. Why are you so insecure?

All of my why on that fucking transformation

He's not that handsome to women. You think he's handsome because he's pretty. He has a very soft and feminine face.
'He' has a pointy little nose, round raised cheekbones, a point little chin, large almond eyes and lucious girly lips. Very good looking but very FEMININE.
If 'he' shaved that scruff off and grew long hair and applied a little makeup (no more than the average girl) 'he' would have a very cute/pretty girls face.

Truly women don't actually like pretty as much as they like masculine. A truly attractive man, to women, has brutish, sharp, square features. He has a wider face, sharper cheekbones, smaller eyes etc...

So many dudes obsess about pretty guys mistaking them for being handsome when they're really just recognising the same features they find attractive in women most of the time. In reality a balding, pudgy but brutishly masculine man will truly soak panties over a pretty little thing like this.

Sure keep pretending to know what women want, whatever makes you feel better.

They get fucking joocy, bruh

You mean exactly like you are doing?

I'm more qualified than you are.

so hol up

does end progression on the right still have a functioning vagina?

>4 months
Jesus fuck, what's even the point of lifting natty?

Aww man and yet you still get it wrong.

Left was my ideal tomboy

I really hope this is not true. Fucking disgusting

no it's more like this

trans aren't going to magically be not trans because they don't have internet access

Coming from the obviously straight dude that claims this
>In reality a balding, pudgy but brutishly masculine man will truly soak panties
That's pretty funny.

>In reality a balding, pudgy but brutishly masculine man will truly soak panties over a pretty little thing like this.
D E L U S I O N

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Still has a feminine face

Whats up with all this degeneracy nowadays? Penis goes in vagina and that's just the way it is.
I would like to rape that bitch until she gets fixed and worship cock

What's this person's name again?

mentally ill

retard

What is with all of these retards calling someone who is trans mentally ill?

Go fuck a cactus you intolerant losers

Kys literal faggots

I hope culture shock kills you one day. Sincerely.

lol. It doesn't form a real dick just a huge clit. Very different too since we piss through our dick whereas females piss hole is very much separate from their clit.

mentally ill

>getting this mad over other peoples problems
Faggot

You're obviously young. You've been taught to accept this hedonism in school and from hollywood. Its not natural, it is an abomination whether you're religious or not.

>inb4 I'm not young, I'm 26
Yeah even worse. You're either a female or a numale cuck if you think this shit is fine.

What do you even care? Why would you give a shit about other peoples life choices regarding their genitalia. Some fag wants to cut his dick off? His fucking problem, I couldn't care less.

>You've been taught to accept this hedonism in school and from hollywood.
>hedonism

ye, they're switching genders because it feels good just like gluttony :^)

>Its not natural, it is an abomination whether you're religious or not.

the entire 'born in the wrong body'-thing happens naturally

why not correct it and improve their lives?

Why argue from nature when more importantly the trans phenomenon is externally unverifiable AND undermines any meaning to male or female.

Fucking add that to the curriculum. These transgenereds live a life of psychotherapy and the suicide rates are astronomical. We should not be enabling them, we actually owe to them not to. Then for hollywood to act like they're some sort of hero? Its just fucking sick.

They kill themselves because of people like you.

Which I'm sure pleases you because you are a sick fuck with no empathy.

>the entire 'born in the wrong body'-thing happens naturally.

You can't appeal to nature. Its not found in nature. You can only appeal to humans. No other animal in the existence of this planet has mutilated its own genitalia and then acted like the opposite sex.

Yeah know, thats not true and you should know that. I don't go around bullying them, I want them to get help. They kill themselves because they're fucked in the head. You enabling them it the real problem, because they ride that slippery slope all the way to the fucking bottom and you cheer them along.

You're absolutely delusional if trans people existential anxiety comes from their supporters and not people like you lambasting them as being mentally ill.

Mentally ill

>You can't appeal to nature. Its not found in nature.

it's been found in humans for a long time

>No other animal in the existence of this planet has mutilated its own genitalia and then acted like the opposite sex.
>mutilated

implying the gender correction-part is even relevant to this

also, there's no mutilation being done. stop throwing in words carrying a bunch of irrelevant sentiment to enforce ur arguments famalam

if there are people born with the wrong somatic gender, and there are, why shouldn't they be allowed gender corrective surgery when it objectively helps out so many of them?

Yeah, I made a perfect point and you cant rebuke it. People like you are having 12 year olds taking hormones before they even know what the fuck is going on. And then you get on your high horse, virtue signalling to all the world to see that you're a nice person. Your heart is in the right place but you're ignoring how incredibly degenerate it is for a boy to want to be a woman. This world needs tough people right now more than ever. Tough love.

What the fuck do you mean? You have absolutely no evidence that this is the case.

That's so fucking ass-backwards even by psychology standards. Every other form of dysphoria is considered by and large abnormal with some form of help recommended, yet gender dysphoria is supposed to be welcomed. We should just accept the guy with BIID because he wants to cut off his leg and be the disabled person he feels like?

It's selective politics being applied to soft science, and you've drunk the kool-aid

>somatic gender
lel

Why is Veeky Forums so transphobic?

They are just people who are stuck in the wrong body.

Their suicide rate is much higher than the average person because of bullies like you guys.

Show me evidence that the majority of trans suicides are by trans people that are out of the closet, post transition with loving families and support.

Well let me go full red pill on you. This you will instantly deflect and I gaurantee you won't consider it for a second.

Plastic is everywhere. Plastic has xeno-estrogens in it. These estrogens leak into the water supply and into the food its wrapped around. You literally can't escape plastic. These estrogens, no doubt, are having a profound effect on the developmental hormone balances in young boys.

Now obviously this accounts for boys to girls and not girl to boy. But, you can start to see where the problem is when you thinking that the powers that be not be are not very nice people.

Source:
youtube.com/watch?v=3iJTBv3RV5g

Now fuck off, we're not going to see eye to eye on this.

Their anxiety comes from any number of things and the reason they fucking off themselves is because they eventually realise that going trans didn't solve a damn one of them and now they've irreparably fucked themselves over.

Their are so few legitimate gender dysphorics out there who genuinely have fucked up hormones and genetics that actually benefit from transitioning.

The rest of them, the ones that have exploded in number in the last 10 years, are typically mentally ill young men with heavy porno addictions that gradually convince themselves that their failings as men are due entirely to them actually being women. So they go about fucking up their hormones even more, realise that they've made their pathetic lives worse and then take the only remaining option.

They need shots of testosterone and some good lessons in manning the fuck up and learning to take responsibility in life instead of retreating into some perceived safe haven of femininity thinking that going tranny is going to fix everything. IT DOESN'T.

Enabling them is like giving a recovering alcoholic a litre of vodka. Some people need tough love to sort them the fuck out. Not a judgement free ticket to follow their delusions to their logical end.

No, it's poisoning society with this retarded bullshit

>if there are people born with the wrong somatic gender

Arbitrary decision, you got a brain/body mismatch and you could just as well adjust the brain

The whole trans thing is like installing an AMD driver for an NVIDIA card and instead of changing the driver you throw out your card and buy a new Card.

They end up with a huge clit which looks like a small "flesh" penis. The clitoral hood will transform into something which slightly resembles foreskin etc.

It will neve become a penis though since it can only happen while the child is first developing. You know urinary track formation, testicles etc.

It's just male insecurity, obviously amplified on a board like this.

Ironic considering how homoerotic the whole thing is.

People are genuinely scared of guys like that pictured in OP might be able to be successful with women. And as such this person must be discredited as mentally ill and a societal degenerate.

>hormone treatment
>natty
top kek

>you can start to see where the problem is when you thinking that the powers that be not be are not very nice people.

think I just had an aneurism.

You can start to see where the problem is when you start thinking that the power that be are not nice people.

juicy m8

Sauce please.

Show me evidence that bullying trans people is directly responsible for their suicides, separate from previous depressive or similar mental health issues.

They craft penises out of the vagina or something. Of course blood can't flow into it so they need a pump in the "testicles" to blow it up. It's literally one of the most depressing things I've seen

>Natural gender transition

Nah, he's not natty

this

Wonderful deflection, you obviously have no legitimate source to back you up. You're the one who made the claim. Back it up faggot.

tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19361653.2014.910483#.Vkd78vlViko

Fuck right off.

>hormones
>natty

no.
that thing is mentally fucking ill

ok how much test is it on?

>that fucking jaw change
>that fucking growth in bicep

>Ironic considering how homoerotic the whole thing is.
Its not gay to admire hard work and aesthetics.

Also, found the gayboy who lurks for the man porn.

Ffff, sooo I have a hypothetical question. How does one make that significant of a change going in reverse (mtf)? Lets say the person is already on HRT. What kind of diet and exercise would you do?

>Multiple regression analysis indicated that the exogenous variables of family rejection, social isolation, and loneliness were significant predictors of both transgender and cisgender adolescents’ reported levels of depression, suicidal thinking, and sexual risk behaviors. The implications of these findings are discussed.

It's fucking nothing. On the other hand.

>be mentally ill
>get depressed
seems about right

Not him, but here's one. Scroll down to the "It’s the Mental Illness, Y’all" part.

thefederalist.com/2016/07/07/evidence-the-transgender-suicide-rate-isnt-due-to-discrimination/