Any advice on NoFap?

IF no fap doesn't work why are there so many posts and videos of people claiming it works???It's all just a ruse?

It's because beta faggots can't accept the fact that they're just beta faggots so they desperately look for excuses as to why they're beta faggots

If you're an autist, stopping to masturbate isn't gonna make you less of an autist

If you get harder erections by watching porn than without (imagination, stimulation, real sex) you probably have a some degree of erectile dysfunction resulting from porn use and you should stop. It´s a simple test anyone can try out.

>increase in test
Bullshit. also, kek
>Increased energy
Also, bullshit. also, extra kek

see

:^)
le meme GOTTEM xdddddddd

>ITT: Masturbation addicts trying to justify their destructive habits

Quads dont lie

I'm a man and I have my needs. Since sex is unavailable at this moment (or any other for that matter), I fap. Makes sense to me

I see. Thanks for the clarification, Veeky Forumsizens.

If anything, at least it should steel my willpower, then.

All the reason I need to break my no fap

fpbp

Every fucking day there are 3 NoFap threads. Are these threads really fucking necessary? I might I understand once every 3 days or a week.
Is it really that tough to sift through the archive and read upon previous no fap threads? Wtf is wrong with you people?

yes, the winning move is not to give in to this shit. havent you notice you behave like an ape in heat when you are horny? keep the levels low, milk yourself regularly and spare the rest of the world your hormone trip

Weak-willed faggots can't last very long without fapping and will excuse it with "muh male needs". Are you one of those faggots?

>yes, the winning move is not to give in to this shit. havent you notice you behave like an ape in heat when you are horny? keep the levels low, milk yourself regularly and spare the rest of the world your hormone trip

>He doesn't want to behave like an alpha super testosterone gorilla dick nigga that makes dyke pussy wet

Confirmed for never making it

nofap made me do some shit i regret so i rather to just fap i used to think that it mights make my testosterone levels higher but after reading about it a bit
it barely does anything to yours testosterone and its better to just do some cold showers or some shit

>nofap made me do some shit i regret
Did you fuck a dude or a fat chick?

nothing serious just tried anal play and eating my cum as soon as i cum though i realize that this is fucking retarded

Why not a fat dude?

So what? It's great. It works for me. IDGAF that it's placebo.

Go jerk of a dick while you get jerked off by a man's hand, faggot.

I get sexually triggered at almost anything. A facebook picture of a girl with the slightest hint of cleavage or even tight fitting shirt makes me want to jerk off. I'm constantly thinking about boobs and ass and sex. Is this a sign of hight test or am I just a sexual deviant who is addicted to jerking off?

Sounds to me like you're 16 years old

I'm 26 and that's why I'm curious about it.

meant for

Well, then you are just one horny muther fucker.

I hate it. It makes me so awkward around attractive women because the moment I lay eyes on them all I can think about is what their faces would look like as I gazed down on them while fucking their brains out

youtube.com/watch?v=N-o2nnDF_So

Sounds to me like you need to be sorted out.

I know what you mean, I have a tendency to do the same. But try to find flaws in the woman and focus on them to try to knock her off the pedestal that you've created for her.

This. The amount of energy wasted on fapping is less than wasted on a light jog. The amount of nutrients is easily replaced by food

I wish i had so much test

mirin' digits

Doens't give extra gains, but can help with dumping some fucked up fetishes

Placebo, fags start to feel confindent for the first time in their life and call it superpowers. But trust me you can also fap and feel confident

I'm a month into no fap. My nut did bust while I was sleeping, I was dreaming about some qt and went complete erect.

Hmm not fapping for 90 days stopped me from doing fucked up shit like that. For each their own I guess

>edged for 7 and a half hours and busted a nut
fuck i suck at nofap

Testosterone has been shown to peak up until the 7th day of abstinence. So just fap once a week unless you're having sex. And do noporn.

k lad

source?

This guy gets it. No porn is easier to achieve and maintain and will lead to less masturbation. It's not easy but starting with no fap is really difficult.

i doubt it makes any difference though if its just for one day

here you go
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241

fair point. maybe fap once every two weeks then. idk.

even if you do every two weeks it will be the same as fapping once a week because it says after the 7th day it drops to baseline

wait, where does it say that?

i remember i read a study that said the same thing as the thing you linked but then it said that on the 8th day it went down ill try and find it

The graphs I've found confirm what you said I just didn't see it mentioned in the abstract of the one I posted.

i read somewhere that if you stop fapping your androgen receptors become more sensitive to testosterone and if you fap they become more sensitive to estrogen still i dont know if the change is anything significant

Interresting study, makes me wonder why does this happen? Did the ancient mans body urged him to have sex once every 7 days for a reason, or maybe 7 days is somehow connected to god n shieet XDD

There's also this one
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
>In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.

>makes me wonder why does this happen?
same. why on the 7th day? and why does it drop back to baseline? there might be an in depth explanation in the full study but I haven't read it.

Just fap every 8th day.

This sounds a bit like bro-science because it's not my profession, but because you're test peaks at around the 7th day without ejaculation, and after it goes back to normal levels of production, it "increases" your androgen receptors if you stop that cycle right after it has peaked; in turn increasing your over all test levels. See for stats.

It could be bullshit, but it was posted by a science-user who covered a whole study with actual science and statistics. I don't know the thread but someone made a scrot of it.

I've fucked 15+ guys in the last two weeks. I'm making gains. You'll be ok no matter how much you wank.

nigga you gay

Perhaps it's a similar thing to the menstrual cycle

Makes sense.

>they think increased energy is the energy saved from the act of physically fapping
fucking kek

That was a lot of interesting responses. Thanks everyone.

I'll continue to research a bit on my one, but the 8 day cycle sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Thanks bud.

>I might just go all the way and start NoFap.
There's no reason to. Fapping doesn't fuck up your dopamine, increase testosterone or any of the other meme pseudoscince people want to meme you.
>Can you give me some comprehensive insights on what the actual benefits of that are?
here aren't any, they are memes.
>Now come on then, I would appreciate your advice.
Quit porn if you really think you have a problem. Keep fapping, and doing so when you're otherwise not having sex, and also eat more protein, sleep more. and workout more/harder than you already do to increase test and help your body/dick if you're concerned about that. But don't buy into pseudoscience and don't make yourself need to believe any excuse just to not fap.
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=5c392185e96536fa
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
>press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html?m=1
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/
>(cont.)

>(cont.)
>So there is no increase in testosterone, I take it?
No.
>What about increased energy?
No as well.
>This thing can't just be a meme, you guys have been going on about this for years
It is.
And these , .
Been over this. The so called test increase is minuscule and insignificant it might as well not have happened at all and on top of that long on no fap testosterone tanks; and actual methods of increasing test do so mountains more effectively.
There is no reason to cycle your faps. It does nothing

currently on day 10
I feel more energetic and my mind feel clearer.
I feel less desire to fap than with my last streak and more interested in normal women.
Even if it's a placebo it does free up a lot of time which I otherwise would use to fap.

>One chinese study
>7th day tests rise and then go to normal

We don´t even know who the subjects were.

Were they young guys going through their puberty with normal testosterone and fapped for 2 years or having sex frequently with a girlfriend? We don´t know

Were they chronic masturbators in their late 20s who had been masturbating to high speed internet porn for the last 15 years? We don´t know

Were they healthy monastic tantric practicioners who had been celibate for the last 30 years while rigously practicing semen retention and martial arts? We don´t know

Before anyone spouts the fucking bro-science, "2 weeks and it goes down" or "7 days and then you can fap"

We really don´t know shit about how ejaculation affects testosterone. There has not been a good study made on the subject where we would take like 1000 healthy young males with normal testosterone YET who fapped daily and they would stop for a year and we would take their testosterone again.

Insthead, we have one Chinese study made on the subject we don´t really know anything about the subjects health, nutrition, habits, how long they have been masturbating etc.

I ask the question 'what purpose would lowering testosterone serve post ejaculation?'.

Think about it. What evolutionary sense does it make for dudes who fuck a lot to be rewarded with a significant drop in test and therefore lose their competitive edge and therefore their ability to reproduce? It's counter productive as far as the individual is concerned.

It would make more sense to me that regardless of ejaculation your test is going to remain, for all intents and purposes, roughly the same; certainly not enough of a change to cause any noticeable symptoms.

If masturbation causes any significant T loss I'd say it's a symptom of psychological issues: self abuse, guilt/shame, depression that accompany frequent masturbation and have absolutely nothing to do with the actual physical act of cuuuumming.

Which is why I advocate for a no porn lifestyle. Cut out the excess stimulus, naturally reduce masturbation frequency to every few days.
I think that true nofap, potentially going months without ejaculation is just going to be detrimental to your reproductive system and hormones. I think it's more a case of use it or lose it.
I bet a lot of dudes get into the 5th week or so and just experience a total loss of libido.

And why abstain? It's a totally natural function. Just do it without pornographic stimulus. Use your imagination or memory. Wank only when your body tells you it's necessary (constant boners).

What happens if you go too far? All I can ever find are flaws in women, kek.

>potentially going months without ejaculation is just going to be detrimental to your reproductive system and hormones. I think it's more a case of use it or lose it.

This is not true to 99% of the animal kingdom who mostly stay sexuall inactive year around until spring and heat.

Lowered test after sex? No, test is in fact raised so you can continue to have sex and bond with her as if she's yours so you can produce offspring.

Lowered test after masturbation? It makes perfect sense. Your test is so high, and you have no partner so jacking off will drop it through the floor. Heavy masturbation is basically a form of self castration and will in fact make you for all intents and pourposes into a woman.
Your gains will drop, your fat will accumulate, if you're a teen who's still growing your dick size will be stunted your mass gains will be stunted you'll be weak.
You'll lose your manhood in every sense of the word.

Giving up or outright abstaining from jacking off is good and will lead to great physical and mental gains. Period.

>Lowered test after masturbation? It makes perfect sense. Your test is so high, and you have no partner so jacking off will drop it through the floor. Heavy masturbation is basically a form of self castration and will in fact make you for all intents and pourposes into a woman.
>Your gains will drop, your fat will accumulate, if you're a teen who's still growing your dick size will be stunted your mass gains will be stunted you'll be weak.
>You'll lose your manhood in every sense of the word.
>Giving up or outright abstaining from jacking off is good and will lead to great physical and mental gains. Period.
Not it won't. these are even more memes and I just covered them.

Placebo or not I become much more acutely aware of girls' mannerisms and how they're responding to me. I think this is a result of better eye contact.

Currently I'm on test e 500mg/week and have been doing nofap for I think a week and a half now and as of like 3 days ago my aggression levels have shot through the roof which is good when it comes to the gym and while boxing but becomes a problem nearly everywhere else.

It's like anything dude, each individual is going to respond differently. Try it out and if you enjoy any perceived changes, real or not real, then keep going. If not, just scale back if you feel you beat it too much.

How does you body know the difference between ejaculation during sex and ejaculation during masturbation?

You better have an answer because your entire supposition relies on that being a fact.

I don't think the body differentiates. I don't think masturbation lowers test because sex doesn't lower test.

What the fuck does 99% of the animal kingdom have to do with us? Last time I checked no other animal can form and manipulate abstractions. No other animal has developed written language.
We don't hibernate, we're not tied to seasons when it comes to mating periods. Hell, when the winter rolled in and we were all forced into our caves for warmth what the fuck do you think we were doing?
We mate year round and have for thousands and thousands of years.
Going months without busting a nut, I think, is a sure fire way to demolish your libido and basically castrate yourself.

>that idiot on omegle who watches youtubers 24/7

Are you joking?

You're on 500mg of test a week and you think not wanking is what is making a difference?
Compared to what you're supplementing not wanking could not possibly produce any noticeable difference in your physiology.

The perceived changes for you regarding no fap are purely psychological aka placebo.

Your reasoning for why you fair better with women though is interesting. I believe this is the reason guys should stop with porn altogether. You lose a sense of shame you might not even know you had and suddenly you feel decent, you feel capable, you feel worthy and then you start interacting with people as a human being and that's when you start making eye contact and stop sperging out in social situations.

>I think, is a sure fire way to demolish your libido and basically castrate yourself.
Happens with what's referred to as "flatlining". If you don't use your dick for a while your body just assumes you don't need it and it stops on you

kek

Dude, we've all read your retarded bullshit and you're fucking stupid.
You're fucking stupid and you're persistent in your fucking stupiding.
NOTHING IN ANY OF THAT SHIT SAYS THAT FREQUENT MASTURBATION IS GOOD.
NOTHING IN ANY OF THAT SHIT SAYS THAT MASTURBATION IS EVEN NEEDED

I'm going to report your dumb ass for fucking spam and I'm going to continue to do so till you are fucking range banned.

The sight, the smell, the touch and taste of a woman.
Jacking off without her juices her warmth and her sounds of pleasure and pain doesn't create the same sense of physical completeness.

Sure you can teach yourself to jack off in a way where you can have nonstop orgasms for hours and have an orgasm and ejaculation so intense that you black out. I've done it, I've basically mastered that useless bullshit.
But it's hollow and you lose something of yourself when you do it. When you give that to a woman, you gain far far more back from her and I get the feeling that she loves everything that she's given.

this. quit watching porn, it's an addiction that fucks with your brain. you'll still want to fap but not as frequently. people don't fap everyday because they have such an uncontrollable sex drive, they do it because their brain is addicted to porn.

as far as increased test levels are concerned I'd put that in the broscience bin, but you do feel more energetic and motivated to do shit.

>You're on 500mg of test a week and you think not wanking is what is making a difference?
Compared to what you're supplementing not wanking could not possibly produce any noticeable difference in your physiology.

No, (other than the aggression) and I didn't think I made it sound that way either. Chill. I avoid fapping atm simply because I try to use the time for other things, and I'm only relaying my experience to the OP.

In regards to the aggression, the test actually mellows me out most of the time save a few exceptions because little things no longer bother me as much. As soon as I had the willpower to keep my hand off my dick for a few nights that pent up energy really started to show in outwards aggression. But I also get very aggressive if I don't beat off for a week or so off cycle as well, so this time around I'm sure the two are working together for even more aggression.

It's just my experience with it. I'm not preaching like the various jerk off forums do.

No masturbation for someone on gear means that he is far more aware of women and is more overtly sexual.

You know what's hilarious? How athletes we know for a fact are on assfulls of steroids are cited as way the old wives tail of not having sex before a match is bullshit.

How gear heads who've been on steroids for longer then they've been alive actually have to gall to say no-fap is bullshit.

For me, contracting oneitis, finding a girl I could flirt with/cons9ider myself to have a future with fixed it.

I went from fapping five-ten times a day to 0-1 once I met and become enamored with my soon to be gf, up until I actually consummated with the girl, and now that we're a couple I don't fap at all.

>Dude, we've all read your retarded bullshit and you're fucking stupid.
>You're fucking stupid and you're persistent in your fucking stupiding.
>NOTHING IN ANY OF THAT SHIT SAYS THAT FREQUENT MASTURBATION IS GOOD.
>NOTHING IN ANY OF THAT SHIT SAYS THAT MASTURBATION IS EVEN NEEDED
If you're going to keep arguing these memes you definitely haven't read anything
>I'm going to report your dumb ass for fucking spam and I'm going to continue to do so till you are fucking range banned.
>I'm going to to try to get you banned for posting facts I don't like that hurt my feelings

It's not bro science. It's been proven to be 100% true.

Hah! Funny you say that because I have a very similar situation. Good for you brotha.

That's all well and good but from a physiological point of view I don't think it makes nearly enough of a difference for it to be worthwhile to stop masturbating entirely.
It's a need, it's a necessary release valve to keep your hormones in check.
I make a distinction between masturbation and masturbation with porn. That is where the real difference lies and is where the real benefit is to be found.
As far as I'm concerned masturbating without porn once every three days or so (or as your body dictates) is much preferable to just stopping altogether.
Nofap is useful only in that it encourages dudes to stop using porn. The actual abstinence from masturbation is detrimental if taken too far. It's really only the abstinence from frequent hardcore stimulus that creates the positive benefit.
That has been my experience anyway.

It absolutely could, I'm on always on a blast/cruise, and if I don't get fucked even for a day I have aggression issues, it's rare, the wife takes good care of me but for whatever reason if I don't get off God help the people I work with the next day, they will feel the wraith.

How many time are you going to keep memeing when this has been covered already

Dude I don't have the fucking time or amount of fucks to link you to the thousands of scientifically proven facts that outright states that you're a fucking retard.

I don't have the time to sit here and tell you that sex and jacking off are different. I just don't.

And I'm going to get you banned because you have been spamming the board with this bullshit since last year and even after you've been proven wrong YOU STILL SPAM THAT SHIT HERE

No, masturbation is not needed in any way.
Masturbation with porn will destroy your mind and body and giving it up for lent and fucking instead will lead to a greater sense of well being and strength.

Period.

memeing

I spent two days going over every single non shitty blog link and telling you exactly why you're stupid and wrong.

I am not going to do it again. NOTHING in those posts actually says that masturbation is a good thing or is NEEDED.
Nothing.

I literally just maaturbate to pictures on facebook and thought though

It really hasn't been proven at all. Even it it were an 'increase' in test doesn't mean shit on it's own. It would have to be a very significant amount to make any physiological difference and it would rely on the sympathetic cooperation of many other hormones for it to actually have a positive effect.

I mean your body tries to maintain an equilibrium. If you're raising your test beyond normal levels you're just going to start producing more estrogen to offset it.
The only test benefit nofap could have is to restore some who is deficient to base levels but then you could probably do that by supplementing zinc.

The results from this are all mental gains baby. It's all about breaking the addiction. It's all about taking control of your compulsions. That's where the motivation and confidence really come from. That's why I say stop using porn, that's really what is doing the damage, not fulfilling a necessary biological need every few days.

Cleaning out your pipes is good for you a couple times a week. Keeps things ticking over. Keeps your libido active and in use.

Besides if you get out there and actually start talking to chicks and start fucking a few it's all a moot point anyway because you can do nofap and still cum when you need to (basically just becomes noporn at that point).
It's like dudes on noporn get a girl and fuck her loads and cum loads but surely that's breaking nofap because they're cumming? It's all mental.

Day 12.

It's like climbing a hill. At first you think it'll be easy, but soon you realize the slope is at a greater incline with each step. You will reach a point of absolute distress. You will REALLY want to fap, but I promise, this is the turning point. Nail biting, unrelentless urges to look at porn unlike any other. Don't. If you can hold off, the day after will feel AMAZING. I had so much energy, I wanted to wake up at 5:00 in the morning to work out, and I did just that. Once you beat that first horrible urge, you know you can keep going. This is the longest I've been and I feel much better just going about my day.

Keep a journal, as if you are writing to yourself, and look back and read what you said. This allows you to see how far you've come and gives you purpose to NOT go back to where you were.

Good luck friend.

Weird question, but does this apply to written porn and erotica as well? I just like it because it leaves more to the imagination. But is it as bad and addictive for you as video porn?

The only argument you keep coming back with is autistic screeching, projection and even more pseudoscience. You don't the right to call anyone stupid, retarded or wrong, especially if this is how you're going to argue. And nothing you've posted has disproven me, I've posted proper research and science has my back. The thing you're supposed to do when you loose an argument is concede

Not as bad, but don't go out of your way to read it for enhancing your imagination...thats what REAL sexual experience is for.

Find someone you can trust and love, and your imagination will run wild.