/Fraud/ steroids general

yeah "fitness model" and "natty" doesn't go on the same sentence unless there is a "are not" between them.
also if you are really smart you will lift and probably see that test isn't harmful as media tell it is

You guys take any preworkout? I love the shit. Goes great with the sdrol pumps.

On the days where I don't use PWO I usually think about how I'll never reach my full potential as a human being and how I'll never be the successful person my parents wanted me to be. It really helps get the blood pumping. The sweating from it can get a little crazy, but it helps to hide my tears. It's pretty intense and helps with focusing especially with the negatives in your life. Anyone else?

Natty fag here. Is putrid sweat a sign of steroid use? There are 2 guys at my gym whose sweat smells fucking terrible and I frequently wonder if it's because of roids? I know for a fact one of them is on roids but the other one I'm not sure about (he's old and strong but a has like 25% bf). You can tell they were at the gym before you even 30 minutes after they leave because of that terrible stench.

Putrid sweat is a sign of poor hygiene and perhaps body chemistry

Steroids can change body chemistry but it's not always deterministic;

Short answer: NO

I take my orals pre with Viagra and Cialis plus some carbs and coffee

I notice a slight difference but they're probably just gross

Okay, I'll tell you my secret, for nattys, to find out if a guy is on steroids. Catch him when he's in the locker room. Watch for anything unusual when he interacts with his locker. Right when he's changing his clothes after his sweaty workout, tell him you want to compare your penises. Most likely his will be an inch or three larger than yours. Go ahead an kiss him and take a large swath of his saliva back into your mouth. Then spit onto his dick with the mixture of your/his saliva, and kiss the tip. Then have him lay down on the bench, and take it from there, boy. Make sure to show him a good time, he works out very hard. As he's pounding your ass, if he cums more than 3 times in your creamy colon, then he's definitely on steroids.

Hoped that helped! :)

no
t. had putrid sweat when I was natty
it's more to do with diet and hygiene

Im looking to start a second cycle. its been 2 years since the first test only cycle.

What would the ideal stack be? Im considering running tren and an oral to kickstart.

Any suggestions welcome

Math degrees are nothing more than going to University and doing the required reading for 3 years while understanding logic

I have a double major in CS and Math and honestly SOME of the math classes felt supplementary to some of the crazy shit Computational Science has you learning.

>If I were really smart I would risk my intelligence to find out if I'm still smart

>Be any person with medical background
>Don't use steroids

What do you guys do to counter test flu?

never had it

That explains why all the dyel twinks want a piece of this. They're just trying to reveal my power level. Fuck, and I thought they genuinely wanted to be (n-no homo) buttbros. I need a moment now :(

Yeah me neither after bncing for about 8 months, but now when i injected 375mg yesterday, which is about the same which I've done before. It swole and now my delt is rock hard and hurts, no red spots or anything like that though. Just overall feeling very shitty, bones hurt, headaches, dizzyness, etc...

>What do you guys do to counter test flu?
Is like 24 hour. Don't be pussy. Make muscle.

I wanted eggs so bad today but I got home from the gym and had to eat something and my mom couldn't cook eggs and so I ate graham crackers and peanut butter.

For dinner I only have room for 160 kcals of fish and 75 kcals of broccoli

Fuark

lmao

100% troll or the dbol he had was flintstones gummies

Well there's this guy. STEM PhD.

>and my mom couldn't cook eggs and so

How about a /fraud/ thread with only source talk

yeah probably. I just had some tremendous keks reading through that thread.

>

>read book
>I GOT BRAINS NOW Xd! su smurt!

>mfw I've made more gains with creatine and a decent diet than I did with any SARM

Trying to put on some significant mass on my legs and back, I was thinking of running an Anadrol + Dbol cycle.

Any thoughts? Maybe some brief dosage recommendations for someone who's never done AAS?

Read the steroids wiki

No one posted it?

>oral only cycle
>too lazy to use google
You're a fucking moron.

Im currently on a cruise of 150 mg test E ew and am planning on going on a 2 week vacation in may. I only long ester test I can get my hands on is Decanoate but I dont know much about it other than it having a roughly month long release rate, a half life of 15 days and terminal half life of 7.5 days and its only 62% of the actual hormone. So if im taking 300mg of Test E at rating of 70% during a 2 week test that gives me 210mg of test so would I have to take 340mg of Test Decanoate?

Also how do I go about switch esters with out causing a major spike and or crash or do I just inject the test dec on my last scheduled pin day before my trip?

Well obviously I would run Test E in addition, I thought that was a given

~1.5g tren e EW .5mg caber ED

Let's gooooooooooo.

that sounds just ridiculous enough to work

Well it's been working so I guess.

Jesus that's a lot of fucking tren

I'm on 200mg a week test e
300 week tren e and getting crazy good results, it was my fist tren run and I was scared though lol. Only one scared now is my wife, fuck my dick is diamonds 24/7 on this shit

it should be at that dose. aren't you the user with fistfuls of mDHT and other stuff on top of it? mirin dedication

somewhat related question, how is that much (in comparison) caber treating you? I guess you need it but that would probably wreck me

I know we can source gear but caber might be ok? Where you get your shit at? I hear terrible things about rc caber and it's not easy to find pharma grade, and rc companies put out good caber?

So Clenbuterol isn't natty?
Anyone use it? How effective is it? Also the legality of it seems like a gray area

Will it help if I'm fat on a cut but lifting heavy 4x a week? I've made great progress, down 90lbs, but I think this will really help push my last 30lbs without losing my gains.

No. It's trash.

Why?

>aren't you the user with fistfuls of mDHT and other stuff on top of it?
Yeah.

>caber might be ok
Well it's legal so I guess so. Indian pharmacies usually have it. I got it from a Turkish one.

> 120lb cut

Its a shit stim that dries you out if you already ripped. Other than that the sides and quickly building tolerance make it worthless.

I'm 19 and 5'8.
Should I take HGH or are there major side effects that are going to fuck me over for the rest of my life?

I started at 310lbs man. 38% bf.
I'm at ~220lbs and 24% now.

Should I stick to an ECA stack then? I haven't tried ECA but it seems highly recommended.

You should learn how to eat properly.

Will a clinic give me testosterone

I'm LOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>TSH 6.9

RIP ur thyroid

Yes, I have, that's how I lost 90lbs friendo. Obviously if I was going to do clen or an ECA stack I'd do it with a proper and healthy diet, not use it as an excuse to eat like shit.

>clen or an ECA stack
>thinking these are comparable

>ECA
>A

LMAO

nope

My was over 7 but when we took more bloods everything was normal..

Clen is obviously a lot stronger and potentially dangerous. The A is still good if you're a fatass like myself and the EC will help with appetite and a smaller amount of thermogenesis than clen, but without common side effects.

They're still comparable, even if one is infinitely more potent.

Don't even bother asking for advice on this general, man. If you're over 15%, everyone just chimps out about you being fat and ignores your question.

Ask Reddit instead, they'll actually try to help. No guarantees on them actually knowing what they're talking about, though.

>The "effective dosage" at which aspirin was added to the EC stack was at 325 mg 3 times a day
>Doses of 1,000 mg per day of aspirin caused gastrointestinal symptoms and bleeding that, in some cases, were clinically significant. In the largest postinfarction study (the Aspirin Myocardial Infarction Study (AMIS) with 4,500 people), the percentage of incidences of gastrointestinal symptoms for the aspirin (1,000 mg of a standard, solid-tablet formulation) and placebo-treated subjects, respectively, were stomach pain (14.5%, 4.4%), heartburn (11.9%, 4.8%), nausea and/or vomiting (7.6%, 2.1%), hospitalization for GI disorder (4.9%, 3.5%). In the A.I. and other trials, aspirin-treated patients had increased rates of gross gastrointestinal bleeding.

The downside with GH is it makes your penis grow too long and thick it starts to hurt women

not if you're over 13 breh

The layout of reddit hurts my eyes, it's so fucking ugly and difficult to read. I was trying to read information there but damn it's awful.
I figured /fraud/ was just a circle jerk, saw as /owg/ and /plg/, but I wanted to try anyways.

I'd be doing baby aspirin anyways.

dinitrophenol

DNP seems scarier than clen.

because it actually works

but I mean.. if you aren't man enough...

The urologist I work for would give you a script.

I'm going through Defy Medical at the moment, they want me to call and schedule a phone consultation but looking at my blood results it looks to be a liver problem so I don't want to get cucked out of $250 just to have him tell me to take some vitamins or a thyroid pill and then come back in 3 months.

Though I've heard only good things about Defy so maybe I should be more hopeful.

>537 ng/dl total test
>script
nope.jpg

just gotta find out why his free test is cucked, but that's definitely not getting a script for trt

>flexing, look 10% bf
>unflexed, look 20% bf

Under 35?
Probably No - They will assume you have used before.
got same issue, going to see an endo soon, with the same worry as
>pay 300
>please meditate
>come again
>300 again

...

Goodnight boyo

I know for a fact it definitely would

If it is a place known for TRT, you're good.

>tfw just found out my test is 243 ng/dl
fugg
At least I know why I feel so terrible.
What kind of test should I ask the endocrinologist for?

Total Testosterone
Bioavailable testosterone (aka Free and Loosely Bound)
Free Testosterone
SHBG
DHT
Estradiol (specify “sensitive” assay for males)
LH
FSH
Prolactin
Cortisol
Thyroid Panel (complete)
PSA ( age dependent)
CBC
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Lipid Panel
Vitamin D

~$200

You're trying to tell me that there are potential medical problems caused by steroids? Holy fuck, user, I didn't know that, I didn't fucking know that. I bet no one in this entire thread knew that, except you, of course. Thank you, user. Now I can truly disregard roids, based on this ass shattering information you have provided. Before I was blind, now I truly see

no I mean what kind of testosterone for trt.
isn't there cyp and somethi ng else?

Friend gave me a 30 day supply of Clomid he didn't need anymore

Is there any downside to taking 25mg a day just for the hell of it

just some minor blindness

Not the guy who asked but another

Get it done through a private medical lab instead.

to the people with low test, did you have any hint at all that you had low test beforehand? little muscle development/body hair?

if your test is under that range then you should not have to convince and endocrinologist to give you shots/t cream/whatever

I have severe brain fog. I think my test crashed when I took Levaquin, an antibiotic. I have depersonalization/derealization and some fatigue.
every day is hell. If more testosterone doesn't help then I'll probably just kill myself desu

but, do you have chest hair?

and muscles?

That's very unlikely to be caused by testosterone.

lots of chest hair. no muscles really
I don't think you know what you are talking about but ok

That sounds way more like a mental disorder than low testosterone. All the problems in your life aren't caused by hormones.

fuck you NORMIE

Yeah go see a psychiatrist, not an endocrinologist.

Bullshit man, test will truly enhance your mental health. I feel so good on test you have no fucking idea. If he so were to still feel bad he could always visit a psychiatrist whilst on test

Faggot

I don't know about what caused your drop, but my shit was kind of like that, I was only down to 325ng/dl and seriously considered 1rm neck stretches on a daily basis, before my test went down I was an active happy dude, I self prescribed trt and I have my life back, my test was down from a chronic back injury and opiod use, I don't take any anymore, and my back is better from all the time in the gym, a year ago I wanted to put a bullet in my head and there doc wanted to make me have surgery, now I'm back to being happy and pulling 600lbs in my deads. Moral of the story get your shit checked

someone help me out here, I did a short cycle like 6 months ago and now I got my testosterone checked to see how the roids affected my natty levels, but my free testosterone actually went up from 14ng to 16 ng,

wtf how is this possible

This isn't uncommon.