What causes depression?

Lack of gains

Depends if you got biological depression.
But either way its your own fucked up mind and though process.

Not enough serotonin production in the brain

This. I had an awesome childhood. Lots of friends and girlfriends. I was the class clown, bullied a lot of people. Got into a lot of trouble, had a lot of fun growing up.

Then 8th grade hit me like a brick wall. I lost every single friend I ever had and became the school loner. I became severely depressed and none of the girls would have sex with me. All of the teachers said, "oh! But he's such a good looking boy!" Sexually I became masochistic.

Suicidal thoughts lead me into a psychiatric ward and being diagnosed with bipolar disorder at age 21.

An older black janitor working at the hospital took a break and sat next to me in the common room. He told me the story of his life, getting into street gangs, spending most of his adult life in prison, giving his mother a heart attack. He advised my skinny ass to get into lifting weights and to "be a man".

I listened to his advice and now I'm here.

Now you're on Veeky Forums?

You peaked before 8th grade?

If that story is true, you're truly pathetic.

you're shit talking a stranger on an image board pal, hes not the pathetic one.

Feeling unimportant to people who are important to me.

Who says I peaked? I'm a king. My engineering buddies are fascinated by how many girls I can pull just by having a pretty face.

Didn't say I wasn't. But I didn't peak in middle school.

Depression is a complex "illness".
It does seem to have a genetic component. I guess this can be explained by epigenetic change (methylation) of the Glucocorticoid receptors. These changes occur in the fetus, or early childhood. The decrease in receptor decrease the HPA axis feedback, resulting in higher cortisol levels and thus stress. So I believe these and perhaps other epigenetic changes makes one more susceptible to bad situations --> depression.

There's also a mono-amine hypothesis, that it's caused by a monoamine deficiency at certain sites in the brain, but this has been dispproved, I believe

Lack of sleep, vitamin and mineral deficiencies, underlying psychiatric problems, lack of motivation, dissolution, bottled anger, frustration, any number of things really but there is a big difference between being sad and frustrated and being depressed

Literally? An imbalance of chemicals in the mind. What causes those can vary from person to person. Maybe you were born wrong and your mind naturally fucked itself. Maybe you've been through traumatic experiences and you've damaged your ability to produce those chemicals which led to your depression. Maybe you've just been dealt a bad hand and have been shit on all your life.

Depression is a choice. It's entirely up to you, no matter what every 21st century meme psych will tell you.

I have an 8 inch cock too. Only 2 girls have seen it.

The following are thoughts based on what I've learned from university.

So we aren't fully sure how alot of drugs work. This is true for anti-depressants as well, we know they cause various changes in brain chemistry, but we aren't 100% sure if that chemical change is the specific mechanism by which it works. A very likely hypothesis is that anti-depressants (specifically the SSRI's) work via chronic up-regulation of 5-HT release by inhibiting the auto-receptors (inhibitory actions) at both the terminal and dendritic ends of the neuron.

Given this mechanism, and going by what I said earlier, perhaps epigenetic regulation (perhaps upregulation?) of the genes make auto-receptors "stronger" and chronically down-regulating 5HT release

Oneitis is a hell of a drug user. She needs you more than you need her, no matter how much your hormones try to suggest otherwise

idk , meditate

Except it's not.

Resistance to feelings and thoughts. Thia causes tension and discomfort and becomes a bad habit making you feel depressed.

Dump her before getting hurt.

There's a stark difference between 'feeling sad' and depression. Depression is when you flat out stop doing anything you like or need to do in terms of work, etc. I remember a heavy bout of depression a few years ago when I just stopped going to university for my final year. I would just lie in bed for hours after being awake and would only get up to piss, shit, shower and food.

Yes, it is.

It's rage and angst turned inwards. And obviously those are entirely under your control.

What a coincidence that one of the "symptoms" of depression is being a douchebag to everybody. It's almost like an excuse justifying your own choice of poor behavior and outlook.

You just did an amazing job of proving you have no idea how depression works. There is situational depression which is temporary and can be chalked up to someone having a bad time that they're really bummed about. With a positive outlook and some dedication, they can get through it. Then you have clinical depression. That is the heavy shit that people develop after years of horrible trauma that erodes the brain and permanently damages its ability to make essential mood-maintaining chemicals. Clinical depression is as much someone's choice as it would be an ant's choice getting stepped on.

Rage turned inwards just results in pic related faggot.

But what if something is situational but has long-term consqeuences. Ie. Your prom date ignoring you then tells you she's leaving because she's tired, and then you see her dancing with some other guy 30 minutes later. How long am I supposed to feel?

Thanks for the infographic, user. Mind if I save it?

>You just did an amazing job of proving you have no idea how depression works.
psych undergrad, spent alot of time reading on this too outside of school. I know more than you do about it. yeah, "technically", it's all chemicals, blablaba, but what normies (like you) dont acknowledge is basically everything in "your" brain is decided by chemicals. if you claim depression isnt your fault, then you have to go all the way and say nothing else is "your" fault either.

depression is mostly a choice. even outside of the mental state, for most people how they choose to react to certain environmental influence that would lead to it (in theory) is still entirely up to them.

>having no gf

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that we live in a zoo that our brains haven't evolved into handle completely. Some people can deal with it. Others have a harder time.

>psych undergrad
Ah, another example of school failing its students. I'm glad you shared that with us.

Are your parents happy you're learning fuck-all as you arrogantly piss away their hard-earned money?

That's interesting

my life

Trust me, that's not it

Modern society.

Underage detected

Young adult detected

unrequited love?

or is that despair

I don't know, my grandmother and mother have it but they numb themselves with ssri.

I had a rough childhood and trauma but i manage to keep my head above water with philosophy and shit, but it seems i exhausted this option.

Positive thinking and other shit like that don't keep from feel intense sorrow for what happened to me theses times. I took alprazolam/xanax from my mother and it seems it can calm me.

i'm searching into lsd microdosing and ketamine.

Meeting the girl of my dreams just long enough to start daydreaming about dating her, then after deciding to make a move I find out she has a boyfriend.

The Adderall induced mood swings doesn't help.

>if you claim depression isnt your fault, then you have to go all the way and say nothing else is "your" fault either
There are neuroscientist, actual scientist I mean,not psychologist, that claim that "free will" just doesn't exist.

technology
> total connectedness yet isolation
> only seeing parts of others' lives that are better than yours
> need to never get outside and LIVE

100% serious.

lack of vitality .

t b h depression has a strong underlying genetic factor that can be precipitated by your mother during the pre-natal period. this includes diet, drug use, stress -> hormones, etc.

additionally, postnatal behavioural strategies encoded on you by your parents will dictate how well you can cope with said genetic predisposition.

to make it easier to grasp, in this life, there are people who can be aware of a negative situation but remain stoic and cope.

that thing you're depressed about, there are literally people with the genetic coding that makes them far more resistant to that stressor, and therefore they will not be depressed.

full blown clinical depression (i.e. not just feeling 'dull' or 'down') is an entirely different bag of tricks

sounds like broscience bro

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I got plastered on a bottle of wine yesterday and I'm pretty damn depressed about that. So I'd say when you mental state is "embarrassment > pride in oneself" you become depressed.

the same thing happened to me. from grade 1-9 i had no filter and would bully kids without realizing i was, i was just really outgoing and confident. I always said what i thought was funny and didn't care if someone thought it was rude. I had a lot of friends and my sisters friends would always message her and ask if i liked them.
after having a panic attack i started getting social anxiety.i forgot how to talk to people i guess and stopped talking to all my outgoing friends and just playing videogames. stopped going to school regularly until i dropped out in 12th grade. been a neet for 3 years. at least I know justbeyourself isnt a meme right?

>all this bro science and pseudo science

>she doesn't look at me the way she used to.
>tfw I know that feel
Fuck man, nothing Is worse than that, it's like seeing the tides hide at the beginning of a tsunami, you just know how bad it's going to feel.

Not being lean

reality consistently failing to meet your expectations

You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. And for that you should be extremely thankful.

He knows exactly what he's talking about. Psychology is a meme. Don't fucking listen to the drug pushers.

1) Stop watching porn and fapping so much
2) Eat healthy
3) Work very hard on your sleep. It is extremely important. Different things work for different people. Try not to use pills to help.

I was a depressed cunt for the longest time. You just have to pick yourself up by the fucking bootstraps. Get some sunlight, go outside. Learn some stuff and work on your weaknesses.

>depression is mostly a choice.
Yeah, and having a broken leg is just choosing not to walk, right?

This is actually true in my experience. Whenever I am sad i will just go to the bathroom at uni and flash my abbs in the mirror.

d-delet this

not seeing progress and anxiety

Well it's a "choice" in the sense that yeah, it's entirely true that you CHOOSE how to take things that happen in life.

But if you've been fucked up since you were a kid, you most likely haven't learned healthy ways to process things that happen. Then, it's up to you to choose to get someone to teach you.

After you've been taught alternative coping mechanisms, then, yes, it is absolutely a matter of choice to use your old ways or the new ways.

However if you haven't had enough help and "proof" that the new coping mechanisms actually work better than your old ways, it's hard to do. Everyone needs support for different things.

There is an insane universal irony where one's depression is basically balanced by one's ego.
>care only about yourself=omg my problems i'm so lonely can't find human connection
>care primarily about others and live compassionately=i know i'm feeling down today but others depend on me, life is a struggle worth fighting for

took me years to realize this, but through my fathers example, i think this is the key to happiness

Being fat. Losing weight is a mixed bag. Sometimes I look in the mirror and see how different my face is and feel really good. Then I notice how fat I still am and get really suicidal. I start thinking about how once I'm at my goal weight I'll still be ugly and it's not just my fat making me ugly.

I've dropped 50 pounds so far, but I still need a good 60. My goal is 160. I'm 6'0, I've heard people say 180 but I've seen a lot of skinnyfat disgusting bodies on Veeky Forums around my height and even at 155 they're flabby and disgusting.

secondopinionphysician.com/five-biotypes-of-depression/

>if the only being that matters is yourself, that's kindof like (1)happiness%world of suffering
>if you care about 15 people, it's (15)happiness%world of suffering + (+1happiness per positive influence)

>go outside
>don't know how to talk to people
>don't know what to do
>walk in circles for hours
>go back home

Extended fasts will metabolise your loose skin while you lose weight. Look it up breh. Its a part of the anti-aging effects of autophagy which is activated during a fast.

You dont need to ask user

I'm doing that. Longest I've gone is 3 days, and I wanted to continue but my mom bought me dinner and I didn't want to not eat it because I would have felt really bad.

Gonna try 5 days starting tomorrow and seeing how it goes. Been loving the fast threads on Veeky Forums lately.

Based Sagan.

Yeah I'm monitoring and answering questions over here: Feel free to ask questions and peruse the thread if you want dudes.

nah dude, the prevalence of depression amongst tribal peoples is near 0

The red pill. I hate the state of the world and I hate that I'm powerless to do anything about it.

Whenever I look my flabby self in the mirror, I don't see my progress. I see that there's work to do. And because I look at myself so often, I don't even notice the changes in my body. I only notice them by literally touching myself. By putting my hands on my hips and feeling them close more, or by having less of my hand go up my ass when I'm wiping and washing it.

>I'll still be ugly and it's not just my fat making me ugly.

Unless you're planning on romancing yourself your personal opinion about yourself means nothing. The only thing that matters is your target audience's opinion.

Orientalist nonsense. Depression has existed all over the world since the beginning of recorded history.

Nice bait

ALIMONY

Even if that were true, do you even correlation vs. causality? Autism didn't exist either in pre-1960's society because there were no proper diagnostics/labels, hence people rambling about 'oy vey einstein had assburgers'

Doing what you are "supposed" to do instead of what you want to do and rejecting oneself. Also not taking responsibility for your life.

Try this: stand naked in front of a mirror every day for several minutes, look at yourself and say "i accept myself". Cry if you feel like it. Process oneself, look at what you are in your eyes, accept the story you have to live through.

Remember: accepting doesn't mean liking. Liking may or may not come one day through a change of perspective or whatever but you can accept yourself right here and now.

Also responsibility doesn't mean fault: whatever happened to you, whatever cards you are dealt with are not your fault but it is your responsibility to live and thrive with that.

All of this shit gives you UNLIMITED POWER and with that energy and shoo shoos depression away. Also standard "diet-exercise-light social interactions" will probably help. Also vitamins d3, b12, whatever else.

Godbless.

at least you have nice traps

Fun fact: you can stop being depressed when you stop being a bitch and embrace some discomfort on different aspects

Being genetically inferior.

>bro just b urself ur chemical imbalances in da brain r bullshit n read marcus aurelius bro

>Unbalanced diet for years
Yes thi-

>shitty pseudo science image
Aw fuck off