previous post Who is /fat/ for? Fat members of Veeky Forums who want >Lose weight >Get a more Veeky Forums body by lifting weights >Autistically change your diet to some ultra vegetable no sweets autism because extremism is always good am i right ;^) Here we ask others for advice and give moral support to one another if you are too weak to survive solo. We all know losing weight when you are fat is easy if you just reduce calorie intake, literally piece of cake. At the end of the day this is a support general whose goal is to help and motivate the chubby channers who need to lose weight for a number of reason. Please be warned that there are some chronic idiots who post in this general giving horrible advice to troll or to reassure their extremist autism works for themselves, don't bother, always remember calorie intake, if it is lesser than how many calories your body burns you ll be fine. And remember, if you are a loser when fat you ll still be a loser if you are thin, your weight isn't the problem.
>Sticky >Even though it is easier to ask, ignore the read the sticky fags >Calculate your Body Fat Percentage fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy (Gonna need waist/neck measurements) >Calculate your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) If you eat 500 less than that daily you lose weight, can go lower but never very low tdeecalculator.net/ >Plan your weight loss week by week losertown.org/eats/cal.php >Track your calories and macros with MyFitnessPal, works best on smartphones myfitnesspal.com/
>month into my cut >lifts have completely stalled >go out last night, binge eat >shit at least 4 times >at the gym today, first OHP rep feels featherweight >increase weight by 5kg >smash through 5x5
what????
I had to keep checking I wasn't miscalculating the weight on the bar. eating more food is like cheating
man fuck cutting
Jackson Richardson
>1500 calories today >not hungry
Jaxon Allen
2 cups of corn flakes 200 cal 1 cup yogurt 200 call 1 cup almond milk 30 cal 1 banana 105cal Rate breakfast . What should I strive for a healthy breaky?
Brandon Clark
>corn flakes
Aaron Moore
>3000 calories yesterday >went to bed hungry
Julian Fisher
>22 >5'7" 230 lbs >thought I would lean out by now >shitty sleep condition+anxiety makes me impulsive as fuck >manage to have bitches mirin despite looking like shit would love to lose the weight but I have absolutely no consistency in my life. I want to shoot myself.
Ethan Peterson
any other tall fat guys? i lost 50 lbs last year but saw no difference aside from a belt loop change, got demoralized and gained it back no doubt if I was short i would've looked like a different person losing that much
Luke Cook
>lost 5kg in 4 months >probably 5 more to not look like shit >been stalling for the past few weeks >Veeky Forums said shoulder and arms don't look to bad >but body is shit
Probably will have to cut to 1500cal to reach my bf% goal. And the funny thing is that even then I'll look like garbage because gyne and loose skin.
Tyler Williams
Protip, nobody cares how much you can lift, only how you leek.
Chase Hernandez
that looks like my ex gfs dad
Asher Davis
Are carb blockers a meme?
Nolan Cox
why only a 500 calorie a day deficit?
I've eating 1200 calories a day when needing 3000 to maintain and my fat loss was phenomenal
Michael Davis
Bruh it takes so long to feel different then all of a sudden it just comes off. Keep it up man, i promise one day you'll be dicking a 9 and thinking back to the night you decided it was worth it
"Question: So there is evidence of metabolic derangement, but do you think it is permanent even when returning to normal caloric intake?
Answer: The studies of the post-obese (see next question) suggest that, even at weight maintenance (i.e. when calories have been returned to normal), there is still a small overall reduction in basal metabolic rate (on the order of perhaps 5%) compared to someone who is ‘naturally’ of that weight. Meaning that if you compare someone who is 180 pounds without dieting to someone who has dieted down to 180 pounds, the second person will show a slightly reduced metabolic rate compared to the predicted values. But the effect is slight when calories are brought back to maintenance.
As I discussed in the original Q&A, it looks like the main impact in terms of reducing daily energy expenditure is on spontaneous activity levels; this probably explains why exercise seems to have so much bigger of an impact on weight maintenance than weight loss (as I discussed in Exercise and Weight/Fat Loss Part 2).
I am unaware of any research examining if this is maintained in the long-term (i.e. will the post-obese continue to show decreases in spontaneous activity). However, the long-term studies of the post-obese (ranging from 2-5 years if my memory serves correctly) suggest that the effect on basal metabolic rate never goes away. So yes, it’s effectively permanent; it’s simply small."
Aaron Cooper
>leek
What did I mean by this
Jack Sanchez
>22 >204 > 2200 calories per day havent cheated in 3 weeks ever since i did a IF for 36 hours i actually have to firce myself to eat to get my protein goals
Owen Sullivan
how do i get rid of my big fat gut? my arms and legs and even fupa are getting super tight but my stomach is just a barrel
James Howard
its the last to go my bro ;(
Andrew Sullivan
Tell me Fat what troubles are trying to eat away ?
Brandon Moore
its fucking huge, like it looks bloated
Aaron Reyes
try taking another 250 off. You could definitely cut more comfortably
Tyler Russell
Well, that was simple. Lost 5 kg in three weeks, just by eating a little below my TDEE.
145 kg now. I hope I'll keep on dropping 5 kg every month or so, should be good enough to start actually training around vacation, since right now I'm too fat for SS or running.
Leo Miller
i had a really bad breakup about a month ago with no closure, i suffer from severe separation anxiety and this person knew this, so without giving me closure im going crazy, i cant sleep very well which hurts my workouts im sure, i dont have an appetite which does help i guess? i dont crave any food i just feel empty all the time, oh and when i do fall asleep i have nightmares.
Adam Morris
i moved and i cant see my friends and my brother has cancer so im sad
Nathaniel Harris
1,058 calories per day.
Thats 4 slices of wholemeal bread, 1 can of tuna in springwater
a low carb protein shake w water
3 cups of coffee
1/3-1/2 of a chicken breast with 3/4 a cup of cous cous
get on my level.
Dominic Murphy
you gonna get scurvy eat your veggies
Isaiah Gray
500 a day is a pound a week. Very easy to manage and be consistent with. Consistency is everything. Cutting more is fine, but I wouldn't go below 1200.
I think this needs an addition. Someone who dieted down and has lowered BMR compared to the average of people at that weight and BF% can of course gain muscle mass and weight and increase their BMR. If I understand correctly, their new BMR would still be slightly lower than the average of people at that weight and BF%. So, perhaps after a huge weight loss you'll always have a BMR slightly lower than average but you can still increase your BMR to a higher level like everybody else.
You don't have to suffer from getting to eat less than 2000kcal to maintain weight forever after weight loss.
Brandon Murphy
F i b e r O n e i b e r
O n e
Hunter Watson
It'll slow down eventually man. And start doing other things instead of SS and running. Just get moving and sweat.
Kevin Smith
Ill eat a fuckin raw lemon cunt idgaf no pirate disease is gonna stop this train
I can't hear you try eating less
Leo Evans
>it’s simply small. Yeah, exactly. Will probably be easily cancelled out by the increased bmr of gaining muscle mass.
Leo Ross
You're isn't maintainable where 2200 is. Don't get cocky fat boy.
Kevin Clark
>roasted maggots
Thomas Phillips
consistency is everything
Luke Rodriguez
the fact that I'm so fat. there has never been a reason for me to eat besides general stress and compulsiveness. it's fucking disgusting and I hate myself. I want to eat like normal people but I realized I have no idea how normal people eat. why is no one else this hungry? why am I different?
Carter Morgan
Well, I bet I'll get a motivation boost to drop weight when it'll slow down when I'll be able to buy a fucking shirt or pants at a normal shop. Practically most of my fat went into my ass and thights.
Connor Lee
You're soft, lazy and lack self control. That's why you're different. Eat better foods that are more filling and you won't want to pig out constantly.
Brayden Allen
I have the mental strength of the Buddha
Jose Reyes
I'm willing to bet roasted maggots have one of the highest protein/calorie ratios possible.
Jason Smith
No one likes a fat sassy faggot man. Chill and learn to eat better, not just starve yourself
Bentley White
that app wont let me save my fucking calorie diary entries because Im consuming 1058 calories a day and you need to eat 1200 min as a male or they basically say fuck you
James Peterson
is there something better then mfp for cal tracking? eating less then 1200 makes it not want to help you
Cameron Thomas
Hahaha. Even a shitty app knows you're a retard.
Ian Lopez
yeah it's called a pen and paper
Samuel Long
Cronometer
Charles Taylor
And you don't have to stop at merely cancelling it out.
I hope this will reassure fatties of not being afraid of metabolic slowdown. It can be recovered from and you can even get it back to the level you had before dieting down.
For example, the calculator in the OP gives the same sedentary TDEE for 135kg at 40% BF and 90kg at 10% BF. Add that with lifting regularly and you can probably enjoy eating 3000kcal to maintain.
Hudson Reed
Can't hear you eat less tubby
Sebastian Wilson
Just eat 1200 calories, this isn't a fucking race
Leo Gray
Calling people tubby in the /fat/ thread is pretty fucking stupid man, we all know what we are.
post height/weight/age
Christopher Powell
6'0, 175lbs. My food and training are fine thanks. In about 2yrs your fat ass might crack sub 200lbs then ppl will stop mocking you.
Chase Sanders
i falling behind my friends, i'm in no way a loser neet, just an average student (though i think i'm starting to burn out). just my friends are so much better at life. they are all chads getting jobs while i still study. one is his way to become a manager at a fortune 500 company with 110k people. hes even in the program to become future ceo. the other one has multiple amzing job offers and can whatever he wants.
you grown up with the feeling that you can be anything. your parents believe in you. and then one day you realise you're just average joe. This keeps me awake for a few nights every few weeks and i stay awake and eat comfort food.
Jonathan Jones
>packet of jaffa cakes sitting downstairs, unopened >mfw
Ryder Price
>jaffa cakes Put it in the bin, now.
NOW O W
Luis Russell
im trying to eat away the fact that im fat. its a vicious cycle, feels fucking bad man
Christian Long
Didn't Layne Norton do research into this and said it could be resolved through reverse dieting?
I remember him and Lyle falling out over it during one of Lyle's manic episodes.
Thomas Lee
I think it's clear that you can increase your metabolic rate after it's been reduced by dieting. It'd be strange if your BMR stayed at the level you dieted down to even after you gained weight back.
Even I have the experience of increasing calories by 50 every two weeks and finding my weight being maintained even once I'd gone up 200kcal. I'm pretty sure this is generally applicable. Not sure about changing body fat set points that Norton talks about.
Matthew Adams
How inconsistent have you been to only lose 5kg in 4 months?
Dominic Green
Father has cancer friends have abandoned me I'm a fat uncharismatic piece of shit
"But insulin also is involved in fat storage which is where it gets its ‘bad’ characterization. Insulin activates an enzyme called lipoprotein lipase which is involved in breaking fatty acids off of chylomicrons for storage. However, this isn’t the only important step in fat storage.
Contrary to popular belief (espoused by people still reading literature from the 1970’s), insulin is neither the only nor single most important hormone involved in fat storage. Rather, a little compound called acylation stimulation protein (ASP) has been described as “the most potent stimulator of fat storage in the fat cell”. And ASP levels can go up without an increase in insulin (although insulin plays a role).
As another effect of insulin on body-fat levels, and this is discussed in some detail in The Stubborn Fat Solution, insulin drastically inhibits lipolysis (fat mobilization) from fat cells. Even fasting insulin levels inhibit lipolysis by up to 50%, even small increases essentially turn off lipolysis completely. Some could easily interpret this as meaning that ‘eating carbs stops fat loss’. Or it might lead them to conclude that a carbohydrate based diet would make fat loss impossible."
Thomas Kelly
In the last month very, But I'm very inactive outside of working out.
Christian Howard
>5'7" 230 lbs >manage to have bitches mirin despite looking like shit
Your mother and sister don't count, m8.
Jack Bennett
I think it should be separately noted:
"people who are better aerobically trained show a lower GI response than those who are less well trained."
More cardio you do, bigger the window of fat mobilization you will have, overall. If I am interpreting this correctly.
Dylan Jones
Why sometimes when I binge and I weigh myself the day after my weight goes down? Even though I've definitely eaten more calories?
Mason Lopez
Maybe binging moves your digestive track along
Elijah Turner
weight loss/gain isn't instantaneous your weight can fluctuate by like 5 pounds every day
Where is the fat priest when I need him? I have cheat meals to confess. I overate this weekend, although it was calculated into my calorie intake during the last week that I would. Still, I could have ate a little less.
Eli Bailey
I went out of town to California. In n Out everyday. Worth it. I'm doing a couple days of water fast as penance.
Mason Watson
Broke my 5 day fast yesterday. Had a bowl of spaghetti and chili (my kryptonite) and a big glass of milk. Probably 1300 calories.
I haven't eaten since (~16 hours ago) and am going to resume fasting. Feeling great.
I'm down 40 pounds from last summer, 8 lbs to go until lean.
Connor Allen
I am eating 20 chicken nuggets and a light coke :DDD
Liam Barnes
fucking faggot, I went on a road 3 day trip and still under ate
Jose Morales
3 day road trip
Chase Hall
Good for (You).
Thomas Wilson
Is that loss?
John Perry
if you didn't start at at LEAST 35 bmi then you are not welcome in /fat/ skinny :^)
Cameron Nguyen
You don't own these threads.
Oliver Carter
Probably because of the nigger >muh anorexia propaganda. Like they would be considered enablers if they let people eat so little.
John Stewart
Well you're still awake and posting, why not go for a run right now?
Christopher Ross
Tell me your most filling recipes pls.
Filling>taste
Logan Cooper
took a break from the diet for sanity reasons, stayed at maintenance levels just fine, back to it today
hope you all are doing fine
Blake Watson
how many calories does frying add to an egg?
Ian Edwards
chocolate with crushed oreo biscuit crepe
Caleb Sanchez
I am not a man of science, but I assume it can't be anymore than the calories of the egg and whatever butter or oil you fry it in.
Jose Bell
Because energy storage tissues are only a part of your total body weight which is what you measure when you step on the scale.
Isaac Flores
6 months diet 1 month maintenance
I guess I could start again today.
Caleb Richardson
Hey guys I am 6"2 89Kg I am 18 and almost out of school, Can you guys give some non try hard starvation diets and exercises plans I have a life time gym membership so thats cool Be nice my first post on Veeky Forums
Gabriel Sanchez
read sticky and OP
Jordan Scott
Stop making this thread, its very apparent that its a result of the r9k influx lately, and its starting to become annoying. You're doing nothing but adding to the mediocrity of Veeky Forums. You dont even discuss proper weightloss in here its all normie tier meme diet.
Read the sticky you fucking shitter, and how are you even fat at sub 100kg 187-188cm tall?
Landon Reed
too late, already did sorry
Thomas Diaz
I am losing weight while eating lower portions of tasty things and drinking diet coke which has 0 calories
Andrew Evans
while sitting on your ass huh? enjoy being skinnyfat.
Jace Barnes
Yeah yeah we get it. You're smarter and better then everyone.
Julian Hernandez
if that was on purpose it was genius
Camden Cox
Kill yourself, sedentary fatass :)
Justin Ortiz
You can weigh the oil/butter you add to the pan, you know. Put the pan on the scale, add the butter/oil. Obviously, if you add nothing, the calories are unchanged compared to boiliing it. Perhaps ever so slightly lowered due to some parts of the egg getting burned black.