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an undefined term because I have never done a low bar squat and obv when you divide something by 0 ur answer is undefined

Hurt my ankle running, lads.

Hopefully the pain just goes away on it's own.
It's not swollen.

Thats what you get for running

>log press
>speed yokes
>zercher yoke relay

Strongman stuff is so much more fun than PL, but it kicks the shit out of my joints.

What's everyone training today (or next)?

Man fuck bulking. I just spent 20 minutes shitting. Based off weighing myself before and after it was a 3 kilo shit.

Tomorrow I got squats, bench, and close grip bench.

Comparing clean and deadlift is a good way of comparing a person's strength and explosive ability.

Pretty unathletic ratio :^)

Any advice for getting my deadlift up? Pretty late into SS, hit a 230lbs 5RM on my squat, 150 5RM bench, 105 5RM OHP all in the last 2 weeks, but Deadlift is only at 245. I added DB rows a while ago, but not sure if that's really doing much.

Why was it called the US Open anyway? Doesn't "open" usually mean you don't need to qualify?

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>i added DB rows a while ...........

Just no.

You can have an open that has a 400 wilks or other grading in competition requirement as far as i know.

>Deadlifting 1030 pounds...
>... with the Rogue Elephant Bar

Is it easier with the elephant bar?

ive had to miss 2 days of c6w from being sick should i keep going or restart

repeat the days you missed. If too hard. Deload and restart

Fell for the high bar meme and am switching to low bar after slow squat gains

How do you keep your wrists from hurting? I have wrists wraps but also want to fix the underlying problem

Dude, that's the best part of bulkan. It's like meditation. You can be spend some time to contemplate the meaning of lift without having to tense up in order to hold in a shit that could choke a walrus.

And people tend to leave you alone when you're taking a dump. Nice and peaceful.

I find holding it without thumbs, like suicide grip style, makes me use my rear delts to hold the bar more, while my hands just stabilize it.

You could also be having wrist issues from mobility issues. Poor mobility in the shoulders can restrict your range of motion in your arms, so your forearms try to compensate, which puts extra stress on the tendons in your forearms, which is felt as pain in the wrist. This is also a major cause of "wrist pain" from cleans.

>Late into SS
>Can't squat 3playt

Eat moar. It is never enough.

Also, a video of your deadlift would be super handy in diagnosing why you aren't good at it.

ALSO, if you're doing squats or deadlifts in sneakers or Converse (don't be that fag that says Converses are adequate lifting shoes), that's why you suck at them.

Not that guy but what are some good deadlift shoes?

I've currently been using Adidas Powerlift 2 as an all purpose shoe for squats and deadlifts. It's got a quarter inch heel.

I've been looking into getting a pair of shoes with a higher heel for squats and oly lifts, and a totally flat pair for deadlifts.

Yeah it's definitely a shoulder mobility issue.

Did haack win?

Or did he lose and get banned from the ipf?

>tfw ow mine knees
I just joined the stifflegged romanian deadlift and box front squat master race.

I deadlift 3x bodyweight in converses...

2nd place and ban

>x bodyweight
Stop using that manlet metric.
Post wilks.

I'm 83kgs.

However, having said that I've done that in converses I also have a pair of deadlift slippers on the way because i suspect converses actually have a lot of rubber increasing my ROM.

But calling them inadequate isn't very accurate seeing as you can deadlift heavy in them perfectly fine. Maybe not 100% optimal.

Also they're convenient because I can walk to the gym in them as opposed to having 2 pairs of shoes in gym bag.

What should I do? Shoulder dislocations?

2nd I think $10k prize money.
Lost balance on his 2nd squat attempt so hit the same weight for his 3rd attempt at rep8.
Pollack and Haack both totalled 855 but he lost on wilks

MobilityWOD stuff is pretty goofy sometimes but it works.

youtube.com/watch?v=eveYJP1indI

youtube.com/watch?v=Un1PDhrU3h0

youtube.com/watch?v=q0Elx93duAA

youtube.com/watch?v=skHV4sTF3hI

Yeah I dislike Kelly Memett but thank you.

I think he's annoying as hell but his weird stretches fixed my shoulder clicking, front rack pain and shitty hip mobility, so I have to give him that.

Why are Candito's eyes so large relative to his head?

The eye reps in c6w

I could have sworn the Powerlift 2.0s were a .6 inch heel.

I used to use exactly those shoes, reasonably effectively. I got me some Sabo deadlift shoes last week, and despite being literally impossible to fully lace with the laces that came with them (going to have to get some hockey skate laces or some shit to lace them all the way up), they seem to be perfectly adequate as well. Time will sort of tell if they're much better than the Powerlifts, or if I wasted $80, when I test a max in probably two-ish months.

I have also heard that wrestling shoes (the Olympic type wrestling, not the fun wrestling) are an option. Though they might be a bit slippery if pulling like a bitch (read: sumo)

That's because you aren't eating enough.

>tfw ow mine back
REMOVE LOW BAR
HIGH BAR IS ONLY TRUE SQUAT
FUCK YOU RIPPLETITS

what shoes are better to dl in than regular flat shoes or barefoot nigga you arent making sense

>doesn't know what i eat
>doesn't know how long i've been lifting.

Please keep the shitposting to a minimum.

>Sabo deadlift shoes

Lol please kindly kys.

>wrestling shoes slippery for sumo

I sumo in deadlift slippers.

You're truly upping your bullshit output today tripfag.

(Weight lifted-378.7*ln(bodyweight)+2000)/10 = Nuckols coefficient for unequipped male powerlifters.
Score of 100 is the average score for the top 10% in each weight class.

how am i making gains on my cut on the TM?

Jordan Feigenbaum made gains while cutting on TM for like 11-12 weeks IIRC.

It's not unheard of if you periodize it intelligently but don't expect to be putting on much muscle or making long term progress.

I-is that balrog dabbing?

...

His starting position is as far away from the bench as my bottom position is.

Can I add a second RD to the TM? If so, where is best to put it?

I find keeping the form dialed in for squats in particular is very important to hitting good weight consistently. Switched over to squatting twice a week during LP to 3 times a week for the TM and the improvement in my technique has resulted in the weight jumping up almot by itself.

I was thinking:

Mon: VD
Tue: RD
Thur: RD
Fri: ID

But i'm not sure if having RD before ID is a bad thing.

Thanks

no

do something else if you want 4 days a week

that's what happen when you train like isley. sheiko eye pops for maximal eye hypertrophy.

jokes aside isley's going to blind himself one day.

any suggestions? not looking for some bulgarian style thing where its constant light weights. the reason i like 3 times a week VD is because you get good practice with heavy, medium and light weights. i'd rather keep doing the TM cause of the gains obviously but maybe there is some way to tweak the TM so i'm doing more reps?

*3 times a week TM

so youre making progress but you want to change it?

WHY

WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

be happy youre making progress ffs

haack always killing the fashion game

Can't even add 5lbs weekly to my 135 bench on Nuckols beginner. Kill me

>bulgarian style thing where its constant light weights

WUt

The beginner ones are better than SS but it's still not a whole ton of volume. If your top end numbers are moving up stay with it, if not, the intermed ones are awesome.

blees be on kilogrms

PL is growing so insanely hard in my country. Thinking I might just have to go equipped.

getting a little sick of benching constantly

considering doing an HLM type setup where I'm benching 5x5s on tuesdays, ohping 5x5s on thursdays, and close gripping 5x5s on saturdays

anyone run something like that before?

because i could make MORE progress doing more of what is making me make progress

gotta get out of that mentality of being happy with sub optimal gains man

what's the difference between equipped and unequipped?

why is sumo allowed?

what;s the point of AMRAP sets on 5/3/1? on nuckols' programs its sometimes used as a means to gauge the weight used next week or something which i understand, but why are they useful in 5/3/1 given that the increases in weight are a constant from month to month?

Wilks favors fatties tho lmao

doesnt always work like that

and im one of the few people here who does preach training as efficiently as possible

but more is not always better

i understand that more wouldn't be better if i was talking about adding sets to VD or ID or something but why is getting more practice a bad thing, given that there's not enough stress on RD to negatively affect ID?

not h8ing just haven't discussed this before

doing twice as much 'recovery' stops it being recovery

5-20 lbs a month per lift is excellent progress

you can see his ass clearly launches off the bench

In old 5/3/1, that was basically your main work for the day. In new 5/3/1, you do a million times more main work and actually make progress. Read Beyond 5/3/1 if you decide you want to run the program. And drop OHP day for a second bench day.

I'll try another week just to see. Yeah I think it tends to my 80%, 4 reps that are slowly increasing and the higher reps aren't increasing much.

Is intmed high the better choice over the normal?

makes sense breh, thanks

I loved it, easy progress every month with only one real ballbuster of a day per month (W3D1).

can i also drop bench day for a second OHP day? not powerlifting related but thought this was the best place to ask

they're used to tire you out and kneecap the amount of volume you can do that day

What's the better intensity day rotation on the texas method:

5RM --> 3RM --> 2x2--> 5x1--> 1RM + back off

or the same but 2RM instead of 2x2? other suggestions very welcome

I just switched away from Knuckles intermediate bench because I was bored.
What I do now isn't exactly the most powerlifting specific but the variation stops me from quitting entirely. The volume is also quite a bit higher than it needs to be, but I wanted to include everything I could think of.
Pic related.

I also haven't done a low bar squat or a conventional/sumo deadlift in months.

is there actually any point in the light blue if you've just done 5x10-15 reps of another press at RPE 9? for example i can't imagine anything close to meaingful weights being used on thursday's DB bench

When you fail or feel like you will fail to get the 5RM, stop at 3 and do another set of 3 for 2x3.

Keep doing 2x3 until you will not make the 3rd rep in one of the sets, then do 3x2.

Keep doing 3x2 until you will not make the 2nd rep in one of the sets, then do 5x1.

Then try for a 1RM the next week or some week after.
Then either reset or change programs.

They're there to make you SWEAT and BLEED because we train with INTENSITY and PASSION not that I expect some soaking wet 132lbs cunt to understand the iron crusade.

Basically no reason except for marketing(set PR:s every week with Wendlers amazing program!)

small skinny twink manlet who would be easy to kill detected

I know progress is different for people etc but what sort of monthly progress did you make?

Yeah, I haven't been doing this long, right now it is not much.
I hadn't done DB bench before starting this and so it was a strange experience to be so unstable, and so I have chosen to keep using DBs.

In later weeks when the first press is for low reps, the secondary press will probably begin to feel more meaning full.

Who knows though, I'm really just trying to do something interesting. I might end up changing plans if I don't like this in a few weeks.

Can you guys recommend me a program thats
>periodized
>preferably 4 days a week
>good for a guy who just hit lmao 1/2/3/3.5 and can't make linear progress anymore
I'm on canditos beginner LP right now.
Been thinking about doing Sheiko but the beginner programs that I found were all 3 days a week.

>reset
how would i reset that? would i go back to 5s at the weight i transitioned to 3s with and try to improve those all over again, or would i start with a higher weight than this?

i can see progres taking a very long time if i have to go all the way back to the old 5 weight after every cycle

Does anyone know what the guy that won the USPA superfatties class totaled?

Do you have base knowledge about programming and training? The best thing would probably be to make your own programming so you can progress at a pace that suits you and build your weaknesses.

Doing a 4-day sheiko for 4 weeks then maxing could probably work too, Jeffrey did something like that with 3-day sheiko in his pl-club iirc.

5/3/1 fits the bill

if you want high volume (presumably you do because you picked sheiko) do the building the monolith variation of it

or you could do a split TM template but don't expect great upper body gains without accessorizing quite heavily

Thanks guys

related question, I would have thought that roughly 1/2/3/4 or where you can't make progress on an LP anymore is "intermediate" which is where I'm standing now

running out of LP is the only requirement for being intermediate. if you can't progress workout to workout anymore, you are intermediate becaue you require intermediate programming to make gains.

also, where can I get the sheiko templates? The ones I found were either 3 day routines or for CMS/MS lifters