FUCK THIS

>t. fat guy coping

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Fuck the fat faggots on this board. You think fucking Zyzz did SS? You think jeff seid does a 5x5? Dont come here for advice come for the lolz.

This board praises skellies and fatfucks

Skinnyfat, yeah

But not for long.

Stop being fat, stop believing memes

keepnus updated in one year after your meme gains from volume stop coming and you completely stall because you arent roiding like schmucks at gym

T. Autistic dyel cuck

Why dont you post your fucking body fitness guru? Oh wait you wont, youre a skinnyfat faggot, lets see the results of that
>nonmeme training

*flexes a 'cep*

What no timestamp user?

>While doing a rear lat spread.

How about you post an image that isnt from a CBT fuckbitch?

heres my timestamp
*unzips dick*

100% natty ego lifting strength training physique

I'm doing a brosplit and I'm the strongest I've been in my life. It hardly matters what routine you do as long as it's decent and hits all the muscles, and works for you.

I know for a fact thats not you.

I know this guy. We are in Virginia and I doubt he is on Veeky Forums. Nice try. If that is actually you, then get the fuck off this forum, you already made it.

right arm more pumped than left, post jerkoff pic spotted

Keep in mind Eric has been lifting for 18 years. That's 17 more years than the average fitizen.

Damn I actually have respect for you since ive seen your twink photos. I will stop badmouthing your in every thread that i see your shitty, drawn on facial hair

Eric bugenheimer or something equally nazi

>he hasen't seen the twinkiest

step the fuck back, we bout to go on a fitness journey lads

>tell everyone to hop on brosplits from men's health and spot train8ing body parts once per week
>dumbasses do this and end up looking the same with a little more definition for 5 years
>stays on SS for the full 6 months and then cuts and does PPL for another few months
>ends up looking better than them faster.
D E V I L I S H

This is probably the "I need abs" low point of my life

>Skinnyfat, yeah
>But not for long.

so you're going from skinnyfat to fatass fat?

>if you're following a strength routine stop what you are doing.

Don't worry, it took me almost a year to understand strength training is a meme if your goal is aesthetics.

Only retards and newfags will disagree with you.

Looks very good but do you have APT/hyperlordosis?

I don't think so mayn, u tell me

>tehe

why is everyone acting like this isn't the most blatant bait in the world

>Not strength training until you plateau so you can lift heavier weights on your aesthetic routines later to get better results

How is this not intuitive to you all? Are you stupid? You do strength training until you're at like 1.5/2.5/3.5/4.5 and then when you're no longer a weakling THEN you start shaping your body once it has the baseline material to build off of.

>gotta download (2) the cake before you decorate it

a-user I....

Why not PPL then?
Seems like you are too emotional to think for yourself considering your goals. First you started a strength routine when you only wanted aesthetics. Now you haven't achieved that goal, because of your own stupidity, and you falsely accuse Veeky Forums, and reject everything it says.
You want an easy way out, Veeky Forums tells you there is no easy way, and ironically accepting that fact is the easiest way. But you are too much of a faggot to put effort into anything you choose to delude yourself with make believe realities and wishful thinkings that are in reality much less fruitful than what is recommended here.
I guess it is good that you choose this path this early, you would never make it anyways.

Linear Progression is a myth imo, no-one's strength increases 5lb between sessions.

>Mine did!

No shitbrain you started with the bar and "linear progressed" to the strength you were at when you started.

Like seriously how does no-one see through that con?

how do i add strength into a push pull legs? did i meme myself because i started doing 2.5 months ago after doing home gym for a year. Also how do you get arms to grow iv been lifting for 1.3 years and my arms only grew a fucking half inch!! currently they are 14 3/4 and im a fucking manlet at 5"8 fuck strength im going to go on a damn brosplit and i hope that will give me some fucking growth

This people who think they're mutually exclusive have fallen for the memes
>But I want to be strong. I don't care about being some ottermode faggot. I want to get goddamn STRONG.
>Thus, having the highest possible relative strength should be your primary concern, rather than the greatest absolute strength. This, of course, flies in the face of the conventional online wisdom that "he who lifts the most wins", as anyone who's not a sloppy fucking mass of adipose tissue would be far more impressed with a stupendous lift by a guy with visable musculature than they would with a Louis Cyr lookalike's world-shattering lift. This is why everyone shits their pants about Stan Efferding, Joe Ladnier, and Matt Kroczaleski when there's a new record broken in the squat by a different circus fat man every 45 minutes. This is also the reason why most of you know who 170 lb Bulgarian Olympic Ivan Stoitsov is, and have seen his pic a thousand times, but have no idea who Tatiana Kashirina is, in spite of the fact that she probably clean and jerks what you deadlift.
>If you're wondering why no one knows the name of a fat Russian chick who holds the world record in the clean and press and the snatch (a chick who probably outlifts the vast majority of us on just about everything), don't. Fat people aren't really people- they're placeholders where people should be. No one wants to look at them, strong or not, nor be around them long enough to locate their genitalia and fuck. They look like shit, wheeze when they breathe, and are in mortal danger of stroking out when doing anything other than doing a single repetition on one of their pet exercises or eating. This doesn't change much when a fat guy or girl picks up something heavy- we expect them to be able to do so when the object they're lifting is a fraction of their bodyweight, no matter how heavy that object is. Thus, if really doesn't matter that a fat person is all that strong.

>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2011/08/what-exactly-is-ideal-to-cut-or-not-to.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2009/03/you-can-be-strong-as-fuck-or-ripped-to.html

>waste a year that you could be getting aesthetic

Veeky Forumss advice should always he ignored. You dipshits tell every new person to bulk and do SS, they look like shit and leave

THE NEW STICKY:
1. Cut to 10-12% bodyfat, cardio
2. Brosplit and clean bulk until your lifts plateau
3. Strength train and suppliment with hypertrophy after your sets are done

Seriously its fucking easy, almost 90% of the people here could be near their ideal physique within a year if you didnt keep fucking them off with le SS and bulk/cut memes

After starting gym with SS a week ago every other thread I see is someone telling how shit strenght training is. Ok fine, what about this: a beginner does a strenght routine for ~month, gets strong enough to bench like one pl8 and then starts training for aesthetics? Is there seriously something wrong this? It's better than doing brosplit from the start without having any idea of even the basic barbell movements, no?

fpbp

Who gives a shit about getting a relatively max lift right now in "the basic lifts" if they lack the absolute work capacity to use it to build mass and the far more important strength endurance?

Just do both...

The best part is we have trips that look decent without lifting heavy or doing any compounds and they just get accused of roiding

Please tell me you understand why brosplits are considered a meme.

If not, I'll spoonfeed your ass.

YOU ARE WORKING EACH MUSCLE GROUP ONCE A WEEK. THAT IS NOT ENOUGH VOLUME. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL YOU SLOBBERING FUCKING CAVEMAN.

DO PPL OR U/L

DAMN

Yet people are on it and achieve a great physique.

It only takes twice as long.

Because they spend years doing it. Do you understand what volume is? Are you actually stupid enough to think that you can only work a muscle group once a week and that'll be enough volume, especially if your goal is to "get big"?

Why are you intentionally trying to make things take longer? Are you mentally ill?

It is enough volume you retard. Train on a brosplit 4 times a week and you will get better results than any other meme routine everyone here so loves.

Do you know what a bro split is?

YOU MIGHT BE TRAINING FOUR TIMES A WEEK, BUT EACH BODY PART GETS EXERCISED ONCE IN THAT WEEK.

I WANT NU/fit/ TO FUCKING LEAVE. YES I AM MAD.

Frequency matters too. Your muscles only grow for 48 hours even if you blast the fuck out of them.

You're better off training each body part at least twice a week, with the volume split into multiple sessions.

PPL, UL, or Full body 3-4 times a week are all superior to a brosplit. Nothing says that you can't do extra accessory volume on a strength routine either.

Brosplits are just bad programs in general. Unless you're doing 8 hour arms or some shit, no muscle group needs a week to heal.

But I want to be strong?

Sure but hit each muscle twice a week please so do something like 2 body parts every time. Thank s

this is a good post

Honest question

If you train only 3 times a week, wouldnt a brosplit or PPL be the same since you train each muscle group only once a week?

Moot question, if you train PPL you shouldn't be on 3x/week. Most PPL are 5x programs.

If you brosplit 3x/week, just take 1/3 of the volume and put it on each of three days for full-body, same volume but more frequency.

1year in- Strength training routine
1RM
265BP
365SQ
470DL
185OHP
6'2" 215lbs pictured

I'm happy I did a strength training routine, I have PE so staying at a relatively higher bf helps me hide it a bit

Back

Here's my starting point, 1 year ago

Fucking good job user. I'm impressed.

Thanks man, I needed that today

Mirin hard

mirin those numbers. Slayed the 1234 goal. you made it.

Because this board is comprised mainly of faggots and trolls

i LP'd my squat till it hit 315

LP isn't as much about strength as it is about neural adaptation and becoming good at the skill that is correct form. also, by the end of LP your muscles will be larger and heavier so yeah you're wrong there

No they do steroids.

>implying I wouldn't be happy looking like I could tear a lesser man in half

I think people are underestimating how volume you can add by skipping leg day

Imagine a brosplit of Chest/Back and Shoulders/Arms where the big movements are Bench, Barbell Row, and OHP, but after that it's all accessary.

Then you go 6 times a week like ABABABx, and you're hitting everything in you're upperbody three times a week. I spent a month on SL from skinnyfat mode and got to a 65kg bench and then got bored and just fell into a habit of doing this and it's working a miracle.

The truth is it's impossible not to get swole lifting 6 times a week with good nutrition.