I'd just like to start off by saying that among all the real martial arts, boxing is the weakest one and is the most "sport" of all of them followed by greco roman wrestling.
I'd also like to say that grappling trumps striking
I'd like to say that you should do BJJ AND either greco roman or judo so you can learn take downs WHICH ARE IMPORTANT in real hand to hand fights.
caporeia or whatever is effective but it takes too much time to get good at compared to the advantage it gives you in striking.
Be sure to sacrifice chickens to the infinite eyed seal god in Darhanva every tuesday to gain favor with the lords of hand to hand
who the fuck defends themselves in todays day and age?
Colton Diaz
This is the way I look at it, how do you win a fight?
By putting someone else to sleep, or breaking their will right?
What's the fastest way to do this? by knocking them out of course.
What's the fastest way to knock someone out? by getting from point a to point b in so many seconds right?
In a street fight, do you imagine a grappler is going to get from point a to point b before someone else lights your face up ?
If the other person is untrained sure, but if my shots are almost 100% accurate and you can't even keep track of my fists how are you going to get me to the ground before I touch your face, ribs, body 10-15 times?
Also with grappling how do you defend yourself against a multiple person scenario?
Do you grapple one of them submit him and hope the others dont do anything?
Of course it is better to be well rounded and of course it is better to use a gun
Colton Mitchell
Shit thread 101
Jayden Lewis
You are thinking of fighting efficiency in terms of time to end the fight, but that is not what determines combat efficiency. It should be determined as a ratio of damage to your opponent vs damage your opponent has done to you. Striking arts allow your opponent to attack you, grappling is about controlling the opponents body and one done properly does not leave the opportunity for them to attack you, making it the most efficient way of disabling the other person while not taking harm yourself.
As far as the MULTIPLE ATTACKER scenario THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MYTH TO DISPELL.
If you get attacked by multiple attackers, the primary advantage they have is they are all going to run up and grab you, that is grapple you, and once restrained the other guys are going to beat on you. they are not going to all box or strike with you all at once, they are going to restrain, when this happens if you have no grappling tools you will get restrained.
When fighting multiple people you need grappling to stay free from their attempts to restrain you so you can swing your arms and run away. (if fighting experienced fighters)
Sometimes you are fighting normies and you can take them all with striking.
Brayden Campbell
what is the fucking point of this thread
just to troll boxing fags? you're probably garbage at whatever martial art you do anyway
Jason Sanders
Why does Veeky Forums have a boxing cult on it?
Lincoln Nelson
Well yeah, boxing is literally a sport. It's not impractical weaboo dancing like most martial arts but knowing how to throw a punch carries over into real life.
Nathaniel Diaz
I want to start learning a martial art but I'm afraid it will fuck with my gains
Oliver Parker
Because it's a great sport. And heavy bag rounds are the funnest cardio.
Jordan Rogers
What will actually happen is you'll get tackled to the ground or sucker-punched and then stomped on when you're down.
Isaac Watson
If your aim is to just be a juicy gym-rat then yeah it'll affect your gains if you're serious about the training. Your body adapts to what you put it through so you'll end up with different kinds of gains.
Owen Rivera
sure, but if you don't try to grapple them off you you are just gonna get beat on.
I'm just pointing out the flaw of the multiple attackers argument against grappling.
whether you learned striking or not they are gonna tackle you and beat on you, your probably gonna end up on the ground, so grappling would be more helpful in that situation than striking.
You can hide behind one of the guys bodies if they are in your guard so the other guys don't have such clear shots on you.
Jacob Parker
I'm worried about being the gym making me too tired to train and vice-versa
Hudson Smith
I started a new job working with a 5'5 52 year old Filipino man who never shuts up. Here are some of the things about martial arts he's said.
>Five black belts (jiu jitsu, aikido, kempo, Muay Thai and jiu jitsu) >Registered lethal weapon. Could go to prison if he doesn't tell them he can kill >Showed up Steven segal while sparring >He was a black belt at the 132 pound weight class "before UFC MMA" but his master wouldn't give him a title fight >His master was also taller and weighed "over 200 pounds" >Fought on televised "martial art" competitions but never for a title >Constantly has to defend himself and people pick fights on him for being short >Not allowed to demonstrate full power, tell people he's trained or provide proof >Looked like he was Bruce Lee "but more ripped" >His daughter could defeat some UFC fighters >Thinks muscles are pointless and only slow you down >Constantly has people telling him he's tough and that no one should pick on him >Only gave up fighting because his ex wife feared for his life >Was a burly ranch hand as a kid who the animals loved >"I just remembered" he wrestled in high school and would slam and toss heavyweights while weighing 130 pounds. He could have beaten then in competition but they didn't want to face him. Finished undefeated. >Would be in the UFC or MMA right now if he were younger
Noah Gray
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Alexander Flores
why do you need to hate yourself for sanshou
Jayden Hill
Practicing martial arts when you dont compete is literally the biggest waste of time there is.
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Pulls out knife >Ded
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Pulls out gun >Ded
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Throws high kick >Miss >Get fucked
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Robbers friends show up >Get fuck stomped
> >Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >pulls out dildo >Gets mauled
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Robber lifts more than 4pl8 >Get destroyed
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Be manlet >Get fucked
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Robber turns out to be a trap >Fall for her charms and suck the dickie
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Yakuza >Wake up with your dick in a cheese grinder
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Itallian mafia >Wake up with your balls mashed for tonights spagethi
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Robber throws pigeon >Get kaw kawed
You fucktards
Ethan Morales
agreed
Hunter Flores
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Robber turns out to be Jason Baha >Navy seal >Mercenary >10year long World of Warcraft vet >Master of providing security >Benches 5pl8 easy >Holds cups like a mad man >Destroys you with his glorious dad lifting bod
Hudson Sullivan
>guy wants to rob you in an alley >oh boi no I can finally use my years of practice >pulls out katana >teleports behind you >N-NANI?! >hee... looks like... I win >slashes you in half with one strike >nothin personelle kid
Ryan Bell
That's why I spent my free time in high school studying the art of the blade instead of socialising. So as soon as get my parents to buy me a katana I'll be unstoppable. >guns Useless when I slice the barrel and slide off >knives I will carry two Sai to parry against weak knives >deadlifting heavy That will simply render my attacker too slow to properly fight >pigeons This HAS to be a joke. Pigeons are nothing compared to folded Nippon steel.
Bitches don't know bout my forbidden sword technique "dance of a thousand dragons".
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice" >pulls out penis >this was never a robbery
Wyatt Martin
Youtube "McDojo choreographed martial art techniques against rapists"
Never looked it up myself but I bet its funny
Gavin Garcia
I've been torturing and dissmembering pigeons ever since I was rejected to 8th grade prom by Vanessa. My parents kitchen knives destroy them and their blades aren't even folded 5 times let alone 1 million times.
Adam Martin
Well there are no belts in Muay Thai so he's 100% making shit up
>Also with grappling how do you defend yourself against a multiple person scenario?
Nothing you do will give you an advantage in a multiple person scenario. You should never train anything except gun-fu for such a scenario because that is the only option that will give you any significant leverage. If not a gun, practice nike-fu for running away as fast as possible.
By all means, debate the best way to win, whatever it means to you (less damage, faster KO, faster end to the fight) but please do it for a 1v1, unarmed fight.
Joseph Perry
>Fall for her charms and suck the dickie
Xavier Rivera
Wow a jiu jitsu guy beat a wrestler at jiu jitsu. Really makes me think. (It doesnt) The wrestler would win in wrestling.
Anthony Fisher
>this video somehow discredits boxing Literally how retarded can you get?
Alexander Russell
I want to learn kung fu primarily as a form of physical meditation that both serves as an extension of my lifting and a means to express/control my anger and inner violence but I'd also like techniques semi useful in a fight. Not punchy kicky dancing. Any recommendations? I've been considering Tae Kwon Do but I'm a big, stocky, brute with short limbs and a long torso.
Lincoln Price
Just go to a boxing gym you weirdo Heavy bag drills are therapeutic, stress relieving and great cardio. Sparring is also fun and keeps you sharp. And you won't dance like a queer and learn impractical shit.
Eli Davis
Wrestling is the most "sport " out of them, and this a good thing.
Elk in the woods, bears, etc all critters engage in ceremonial combat to show dominance. It's practical, evolved behavior that lets people know whose boss while keeping eyeballs and testicles intact. "Combat training" is gay.
Liam Campbell
Pretty much any martial art (assuming you go to a good dojo) is great exercise and probably good for reliving stress. So just pick whatever interests you and see if you like it. I do judo and it's a fuckin blast.
Samuel Green
kung fu is useless. Do a real martial art instead of LARPing as magic chinese warrior. The meditative aspect is present in pretty much any martial art, my personal favourite is judo
Luis Walker
>If the other person is untrained sure, but if my shots are almost 100% accurate and you can't even keep track of my fists how are you going to get me to the ground before I touch your face, ribs, body 10-15 times? have you ever watched mma dude? excellent strikers get taken down all the time.
Luis Jenkins
Oh boy, here I go baiting again!
Josiah Nguyen
This so much. >can barely force myself to run for 30 minutes >gym adds heavy bags >get handwraps, wreck my knuckles >get bag gloves, spend 1 hr doing 30-30-30 >puddle of sweat on the floor Feels fucking great m8. This cut can't come soon enough.
Michael Parker
Because the person who made that couldn't be bothered to look at Sanshou for like 5 minutes and hopes no one will pick out that he knew shit about it.
Juan Morris
And excellent grapplers get ktfo'd all the time
Adrian Diaz
Are you the guy who has that weird mow hawk, star wars shower curtain and dirty mirror
Jacob Hall
lol if you want to get good at punching, which is undoubtly a pretty effective way of striking, boxing will make you very good at that
plus alot of the foundation skills of boxing translate to other martial arts and combat spors in general eg timing, reflexive striking, movement and angles
grapplers gt knocked out and boxers get choked, it's just a different game but they're both good
ps fuck you nerd
Jack Torres
>If you are poor train Boxing and Judo h-haha what a coincidence
William Mitchell
Police officer, bouncer and paramedics. They have to defend themself because of their job. Next to that, normal people who went outside and get attacked.
Hunter Morgan
watching a fight becomes 100 times more boring once they fall on the ground and grapple in homoerotic poses.
Cooper Flores
It's nice to see you know what you're talking about.
In other news yeah capoeira does take a fuck off long time but I believe it can be transformed into something much more efficient as far as pedagogy and physical training go. However this as of right now doesn't exist so is moot.
Jackson Clark
Most Eastern striking arts come from Kung Fu. Karate is a descendant of White Crane for example. The grappling ones are different tho.
John Hernandez
This I can tell you're a college kid that avoids confrontation, a neet. Or ust plain retarded.
Jace Cooper
For street fights all you need is a good hook
Hunter Cooper
Judo and boxing are not, and if they are expensive where you are lovinmg you are gettig ripped off. I pay £2.50 a week to do Judo
Logan Morales
In western Europe most robbers stab you first/stomp your head into the ground for fun, afterwards they take your money if they need some. Good luck giving your money and thinking they will not kill you.
Andrew Gray
>What's the fastest way to knock someone out? by getting from point a to point b in so many seconds right?
The thing is user most people GREATLY underestimate exactly how good at this they are. When you inevetibly don't make contact with those first spazzy punches, you are then opened up to getting clinched, now you will struggle to get the distance and leverage to throw a decent hand again, by the time you have realised this, a "just ok" grappler will be hip tossing you to the hard floor. Your right about being well rounded and not messing around with multiple opponents though and obviously gun-fu beats everyone.
Henry Wood
Anyone who says boxing is not GOD tier is wrong, but a lot of anons ARE right about box only fags, they have beautiful bobbing and weaving, so well suited to tge sport of boxing will have you eat a shin when a kickboker or muay thai guy has a go.
>boxing is the weakest one and is the most "sport" of all of them
in an episode of mayweather vs i dont know, one of his security guards who is natty and was a former mma fighter got his nose broken by a 180lbs fighter in a sparring match.
Christopher Sanders
About to start muay thai. any muay fags got any good advice? been doing bjj for a while so not my first martial art
Camden Sullivan
>Guy wants to rob you in alley >"Oh boi, now I can finally use my years of practice." >Robber lifts more than 4pl8 >Get destroyed
The only questionable one
Christopher Anderson
Must be why if there is ever a match of mayweather vs mcgregor that only bocing will ne allowed. Its not like connor would just straight up MURDER him or anythingp
Dominic Perez
I started with luta livre and now Im training both, luta livre and muay thai (I can train both in my gym). Its hell of a fun, but the "pain" is different. We had sparred with mma gloves in luta livre, but the hits and kicks of the muay thai fighter are way faster and stronger than the ones of the luta livre fighter. Just have fun. Its a really good sport.
