Is this a meme

>75 mg DMAA
>350 mg caffeine
Those alone make for some real results.
I've gone with 40mg DMAA and 250mg caffeine, and that already makes a tangible improvement for heavy lifting

Depends are you me and have low tolerance to stimulants then no. Otherwise yes.

Oh fuck is this a common thing? I think it's messing with my sleep too.

Of course, they are stimulant bombs.

Work yourself to be tired as fuck, and dont take serious pre workouts too late in the afternoon

Good enough for going from comatose to productive at 5am

Just got pic related and tried it for the first time today and felt nothing

>dat tingle

Yeah dumbass its the same as drinking black coffee before bed

Then you must double your dosage of course

>wow why is something that has CAFFEINE making me feel more awake???

I'm 6ft 200 lbs and 2 scoops of this doesn't make me feel the tingle anymore. Should I try lmao3scoops???

Fkn this.

You will lift more and it will give you a ton of energy with a cost.. you will have shit sleeps and it may effect recovery, it will make you high strung as stims do.

I would advise against pre workout other than going for PR's

upgrade to a better formula.

Hey Veeky Forums I work with a guy who is 5'8" 300lbs has a big round stomach. I gave him a few play punches in the stomach joking around when I asked if he wanted a coffee and it was hard as a rock. I though it would be soft and jiggly?

Any reason why it's so hard?

Didn't want to make a thread for it figured you guys are pretty knowledgeable and someone here would know the answer

I didn't feel anything my first time, either. Second time around I used half as much water and nearly double the amount, so maybe 6 oz of water and a scoop and a half. It made all the fucking difference man, I've been killing all of my workouts ever since and don't plan on changing preworkout unless I develop a heart problem or something

I imagine he tensed up and was flexing his abs before you touched him, I do that all the time instinctively

I used to think preworkout was a meme, just made me need to shit myself within minutes of drinking it.

I did try some octodrine based preworkout recently though which was pretty good, but if you take it too late in the day it can leave you feeling pretty uncomfortable in bed

Well that is 21 stones no wonder he's hard as a rock

> 1235+782
> Still using preworkout

I feel sorry for anyone who needs the powdered jew to motivate themselves

What exact product is this from?

That's just beta alanine which isn't really effective for lifting research shows. Also it's like creatine it builds up in your system over time for its benefits. But normies think the tingles give them power.

this is why you have qtddtot threads

Tingle power has been shown to increase the number of muscles in your body by 600%

Refer to this

Pic related is the best pre workout, hands down.

$22 a container, 45 servings in each.

OP I recommend you try this one.

I've tried like 4 different Preworkouts and C4 is probably the best one I've tried so far. I haven't got a pump from any of them that I've noticed, but I've been more motivated at the gym on C4 and I've hit some PR's and stuff so it's not bad, and the tingles are pretty nuts. I'm like 220lbs and 6'1 and on 2 scoops my hands and legs tingle heaps.

These dudes have confirmed that tingles = strength so I'm gonna try 3 tonight, wish me luck.

> shock berry
> berry
> would berry muh dim

it's intramuscular fat packed around his organs and he's gonna die soon prolly

>intramuscular fat
sry meant visceral fat

Nope. Best preworkout I have tried

Best pre workout is a banana

>C4
careful not to blow up user

Mesomorph has no caffeine, its high in stimulants though. I like it.

I use c4 and it makes me be able to go a full hour to an hour 20 min with amazing intensity and little rest. Without it I usually do 40 minutes and not nearly as hard. And this is coming from someone that drinks two big cups of coffee in the morning and 2 sips a day. I've been hooked on caffeine for a few years now. Whatever it is there's obviously something more than just caffeine in it that works for me.

how about this stuff?

Can confirm, fucked up my sleep patter really badly. Only use it in the morning once a fortnight or when you go for PRs as said.
It is a meme.
>falling for the cellulor jew

What is some god tier pre-workout, I want some shit that will get me fucking PUMPED UP. Preferably full body tingles that other user was talking about too. Also a plus if shady and borderline illegal.

C4 effects everyone differently. At $20 a can I can honestly say it's decent. For me I experience no crash as compared to coffee or any other caffeine drinks. It's a great starter pwo but there's better ones out there but with all pwo sups a tolerance will be built so it's best to alternate. Also if you take 2 scoops don't take it all at once, 1 scoop 15 minutes before and one scoop a ten (sublingual absorption) 20 minutes into workout if you're there for an hour.

C4 gives body tingles big time. It's simply the beta-alanine if that's what you're looking for so compare mg.

Alright thanks man

God of Rage > Dust, normie

Supplement store owner here. If you buy c4 youre a cuck.

From a logical standpoint, youre paying dirt cheap prices for a pre-workout because its literallly only efficaciously and clinically dosed in ONE ingredient(spoiler:caffeine). For fucks sake, youre paying for a god damn SIX GRAM scoop. You dont really get efficacious doses of anythiing until you hit the 3 scoop serving, and by that point youre either
1. overloading yourself with caff
2. paying 25 bucks for the jar to last you all of 10-12 workouts.
From a marketing perspective, c4 is pretty genius in that they have made themselves the top pick by normies, and if youre new to stims, youll probably feel it, But for anyone whos been taking a solid pre for a while, youll know c4 is god damn dog shit.

pick related. The best damn pre on the market. (Sorry dmaa fags, im not a drug addict)

Yeah, ive built a tolerance
I usually have to use 2-3 scoops of dust extreme to noticebly feel anything.

My fellow DMAA vets.
Do you know of literally anywhere online to still order DMAA powder?
I remember nutrishop used to sell it for a good price but with that lawsuit that happened months ago everywhere stopped selling it and im pissed. I wish i had known they were gonna stop i would have bulk bought a fucking kilo.

What's your body fat?

Considering C4 and Alpha Amino combined has exactly the same ingredients plus more PLUS bcaa's for the same cost if not less you can fuck off.

total waste of time and money imo. only benefit is sometimes it makes you mentally alert through a long workout, but you quickly build up a tolerance and by the time you're taking 2 scoops to make it work your body is adjusting to around 400mg of caffeine which is just retarded.

pre-workouts WILL cause you heart problems down the road

Yes.

Alibaba, provided you don't mind dealing with the Chinese

>but who was servings
>Not with the same level of stim
>not with nearly as much pure citrulline and betaine
you can fuck off you double nigger

keep getting cucked by GNC and cellucor