What's stopping you guys firm giving vegan a go?

Humans are omnivores.
Also meat is clearly way more efficient.

I see no point in forcibly limiting my diet so I can walk around with a false sense of superiority.

Vegan diets are a 1st world fad born from boredom that boring uninteresting people use as a way to make their lives seem special.

This so much

how do you know Im not lad??

This

I can't imagine the shits this guy must take

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While a decent vegan diet surely is a better / healthier dietary option than your average American or European diet, it sucks for a multitude of reasons (gf is vegan, plenty of experience here, tried it myself too)

>every meal requires planning and forethought
>healthy vegan diets are difficult to pull off, especially if you want to hit all your macros, nutrients and not suffer from any deficencies
>vegan alternatives are somewhat expensive
>some vegan alternatives are simply disgusting (vegan cheese)
>even if you like cooking, it becomes a chore because it will bore you and become repetitive at one point
>depending on where you live, eating out and finding vegan products may be really difficult and/or impossible
>being a consisent vegan greatly reduces fun and quality of life

why are you such a heartless monster user?
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28479977?dopt=Abstract

I like the taste of meat.

the effort i'd have to go through to let everyone know im vegan

I mean pushing them out. That diet has literally no fiber

>eating food of my food
why would i do that?

>implying counting calories and eating chicken, broccoli and rice everyday isn't a eating disorder

he eats regular food too. his total calories is around 8000

I also eat regular food too. its not that bad

i would if there was some synthetic protein on the same level of cow/chicken/fish meat but there just isnt
maybe in a decade

Gf is vegan.
Made me some cookies
Crumbly pieces of shit
Veganisms no butter rule ruins even baked goods

I eat more than 400 calories

I've done it for 6 months in the past. I was having stomach issues and wanted to see if it alleviated them. I felt good, had good endurance, felt wide awake and light on my feet, but weak af. All my numbers dropped. Stomach problems improved, and I still do it now and again if I feel them flare up, but no intention of making a permanent change. I give zero fucks about killing animals for food. I care about how they're reared, because that affects the quality of the meat and what I'm putting into my own body in terms of chems, but I have no moral compunction whatsoever with killing them, whether to eat or for sport.
Just like I don't care whether you live or die. Your death would make no discernible difference to my life or the lives of the people I care about. I don't believe in any such thing as humanity or a higher purpose, so I definitely don't believe in some cosmic fraternity with the animal kingdom.
Eat, sleep, reproduce. Same purpose as every other living thing on this rock. You can enjoy the ride or waste it all in an existential crisis. Your choice.

I did. Tried it for four months and then again for 2 weeks. Way too restrictive for me. Was always thinking about eating meat, couldn't eat out with friends, couldn't drink anything outside.

kilocalories*

I bulk on 4500 calories with a fairly high protein content. Even with all kinds of legumes and nuts and seeds, which technically aren't even vegetables in the sense of your pic, I would still rupture my stomach trying to fit that all in before I even reached my daily goal kek

brb eating a literal 25lbs of leafy greens, barfing like five times to make space

i want to suck on ur gfs milk factories

Sheeit. What's he look like?

>Projecting being fat and constantly overeating on everyone
Fuck off fatty with lack of self control

>Just like I don't care whether you live or die. Your death would make no discernible difference to my life or the lives of the people I care about.
>Eat, sleep, reproduce. Same purpose as every other living thing on this rock. You can enjoy the ride or waste it all in an existential crisis. Your choice.

>eating only 400 calories per meal
for what purpose?

always requiring a full belly for sufficient energy is fucking annoying.

I tried pawning the turd pucks onto my fat fuck co workers, but they refused to eat them, they were so tasteless and disappointing. Into the trash they went.

Veganism is dumb.

That's not his gf. That's a twitch streamer who ironically does /pol/ shit in public

like the one who isnt isley. he squats ~300kg and is on gear

Because I don't want my balls to fall off and grow a pussy

Basically that which is depicted in OP's pic. Good luck with bulking up from concentration camp survivor mode with carrots and apples. Meat and milk products makes it so much easier

Red pill me on carbs Veeky Forums, why should I give up the potato?

Carbs are good, if you aren't epileptic you shouldn't do keto.

you mean aside from the obvious answer of to avoid brain damage?
i wouldn't want to feel like the pic all the way on the right. stomach being completely full like that is actually very uncomfortable. plus I can barely finish my normal meals

I guess that comes across as edgy, but I genuinely mean it. Giving a shit about people I don't know is just plain irrational. It's bad enough that I worry for people I have a genuine emotional connection to - can't fight biology, hey ho. Plus those relationships do actually enrich my life and make it an enjoyable experience. It's therefore rational to care about what happens to them.
I grew up in a rural community. I used to help out on nearby farms. I've killed a lot of animals, mostly for meat or mercy. Shot a fuckload of deer for the delicious venison, but also because it's fun, and because we have no wolves left to control their population and they would otherwise destroy all the vegetation in the area.
Vegans are tiresome af. If civilization is interrupted for any reason, all of these idiots will be dead within a few weeks at most. Is that edgy too?

yeah it's stupid to eat vegan 100%
gradient chicken tender are 2.37 at my walmart tho so i eat a lot of those. i eat cheese occasionally, if i found chao cheese i'd give it a go. i don't mind spending 5 bucks on a packet of cheese slices because i never ate cheese to begin with. i make a. egan white cheddar mac n cheese that's amazing. but yeah honestly go full vegan if you want but i say three servings of dairy a week is where i cut it.

I see, so for example would carbs from naturally occuring sources such as potatoes be fine (in moderation of course) whereas starchy foods such as white bread be avoided?

tbqh besides the weird moonface, garagebro is my /comfywinterbulk/ goal body, even though I'm natty.

>t.

I'm not looking to embrace mental illness

Starch causes an insulin spike which tells your body to store fat, so I would recommend it sparingly. I usually get most of my carbs from fruits in vegetables. I would never recommend wheat products though.

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Ok, thanks for the advice!

Meat for the strong men, milk for the babes

This is axiomatic friends.

>voluntarily lowering yourself in the food chain

Why don't you give crawling everywhere a go?
It's bound to make you stronger.

Milk is a great way to fuck your hormones up.

is this actually possible? mom science says oil will fuck up your heart

You cant go anemic from eating meat. try again

I love meat more than I love cocks.

saturated fats are not directly linked to heart disease. theres a corrilation because people who eat alot of satfat are usually fat. and fat people have heart disease

this doesnt apply to us because we're fit and active

A glass a day isn't going to harm you though and is great for getting calcium

Because vegetarianism is superior

Also
>oil
>not vegan

Wow, the lack of amino acids sure have made you stupid

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Yeah I cant fucking wait to get #swoleleft, suck dick and vote democrat

Fedora wearers would die even faster than the vegans. Lot of meat on them though. Would have no problem eating if I couldn't find any deer.

But isn't masculinity evil to these beta as fuck faggots?

You just know 'xir' has probably got every STD going

It is, but it's also a tranny that has a fucking Syrian flag, don't expect logic or consistency with these people.

so I can drink a cup of olive oil a day with no problems as a supplement?

>eating just 400 calories in each meal

C'mon

You'd have to disinfect that bar after 'it' is done with it to avoid getting gonorrhea

>no problem

there are some problems. I consume ~1/2 a cup a day. it puts alot of stress on your digestive system

also, a whole cup would probably put you way above your tdee. youre not a powerlifter on gear. youd get fat and have all the side effects of that

you can use it as a supplement to help you gain weight tho in reasonable amounts

Veganism is actually redpilled, but whatever. Keep shilling the meat and dairy industry, cuck.

well what are reasonable amounts? 1/2 a cup? I'm not technically underweight but I gain weight pretty fast when I try and exert myself on eating. It's pretty hard tho for lack of calorie dense food. I started eating peanut butter and granola but I'd like to supplement some more.

I see it as a meme. Plants are good for you there is no doubt but to go full bore and eat zero animal products would be damn near impossible if it wasn't for today's technology.

>not eating 18 meals of 400 calories each a day

>redpilled
>shill
>cuck
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I'm sure this thread is full of misinformation.

Check out my boy Greger's videos.

youtube.com/user/NutritionFactsOrg/videos

>he thinks he can build muscle without bulking with oil and chicken
plebs

here is my super secret recipe for oil soup:
>stock
>miso
>spices
>veg of your choice (I like peppers spring onion and green beans)
>meat of your choice (I like fish)

>1/2 cup of olive oil
>100g butter

>6 scrambled eggs

>tons of rice

easily ~2000+ calories and because its in soup its easy to eat. literally a blind mongoloid could cook it too

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this must be both revolting and yummy at the same time. mirin the dedication to make a trip for it

I prefer not being a faggot

No real reasons given at any point in time in this thread, but muh uhhh NUTRIENTS!!! You don't know shit about nutrition of you think you can't get all your nutrition from a vegan diet or think you have to eat 20 lbs a day.

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My heterosexuality.