>almost 1 year SS with accessories Does anyone else feel like they can't fit time/ resources into a proper large diet? I lost fat and gained some pretty well and got the preteen girl wet dream physique but I'd like to get actually big. Starting this year I'm going to begin 3.5k w day
6' btw
Nathaniel Allen
i'm glad you got rid of the nigger pants style.
Liam Johnson
>1 year SS why
Cooper Bell
Cause I bought a squat rack with a bench and ez bar as I simply can't fit in the time to go to the gym consistently
And it's super comfy to be able to eat 15 steps away from your gym
Easton Flores
I think you actually looked better before
John Lopez
How so
Gabriel Walker
he just needs to get bulkier, he looks fine, he's young.
William Cox
you can continue doing SS once u plateau, it wont matter. most people here dont even lift honestly.
Cooper Adams
his arms didnt grow at all is this normal? he said he did his accessories
Camden Morgan
I'm planning on joining a gym and switching to a 4 day split sometime after summer
Benjamin Richardson
How much did you weight then and now? Also please post your starting lifts and how much can you do for reps user
William Reyes
Here's an arm pic I could find I think this was taken after a Bi workout so my tris are nonexistent, I'll try and find a pic with decent distribution
Justin Williams
it looks ok since you started @ skelly split + dirty bulk will be alright for you
Bentley Price
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Andrew Gutierrez
Why do you think this is a good reason to do SS for 1 year
Carter Thompson
there's no way you did SS as prescribed for an entire year with that shit body
Sebastian Robinson
>one year on a beginner routine
Ethan Perry
I frankly don't have any choice If you wanna direct me to workout plans that only utilize a bench, squat rack, pull up bar, and curl bar be my guest as I'd be more than glad to try it
Benjamin Brown
The Texas Method You should buy Rippetoe's other book, Practical Programming.
Andrew Sanchez
Ice cream fitness is legit the best 3x day routine i found
Isaiah Taylor
>SS with loads of accessories it's shit. literally made for idiot beginners who (despite having no knowledge) think that standard SS is too little volume.
Easton Parker
wait, you don't have a simple barbell? How have you been doing SS in the first place?
James Jones
Isn't it too much volume? I'm a noob.
I'll end my cut soon, currently working around a couple injuries and I guess I'll be fully healed by the time I lose all the weight I want. I told a couple friends that also lift about Blaha's program and how I want to give a try when I start a slow bulk, and they both consider it to be "too much for me". I have a very fisical job btw.
How much did your lifts improve?
Liam Turner
I thought having a barbell was implied
Parker Hernandez
>He dosnt do isolations
Enjoy fridge mode faggot
Connor Edwards
ICF, same as SS, are BEGINNER strength programs. you shouldn't follow them for 1 year; and then especially not switch to another BEGINNER strength program
Christopher Robinson
im not trying to be an ass but what are your lifts? you're kind of tall but you're not like a skeleton lord. your shoulders are small, your arms are non existent. you gained a stronger core but your chest isn't much bigger. overall you look much better than before, but i think you could have done much better.
Caleb Jackson
Nigga i started lifting 3 months ago with icf and i am still on it. Its great so far. I will probably switch to a still 3 day full body routine because its just the best way to train your body
Thomas Hughes
So then you're fully capable of doing an intermediate program like the texas method then why have you been doing SS for a year did you have some bad months or something y'know no shame if you did shit happens
Joseph Smith
>i started lifting 3 months ago Great for you. OP stated he's been on SS for 1 year. So recommending it to him is retarded.
Robert Morgan
My arms look like straight shit in the op pic. I have pics up that show a little better angle on all the shit, but I can see what you're talking about. When I started I didn't even hit shoulders really until about a couple months later, and I think the core gains come from squatting. I don't know if it's visible in the pics but personally I feel like my chest had the biggest improvement just by seeing it grow
Brandon Ramirez
>routines this routine that
Just do your own set of exercises that use the equipment you have instead of using some texas ice cream starting ppl bro split strenght shit. Do you faggots dont have a brain or what.
Jonathan Lewis
can you post your starting lifts and current?
Jason Gonzalez
I didn't know what the hell I was doing for a while when I started, and it took a lot of trial and error (overtraining, studying and fixing form) but I believe I started to get my shit together around the end of last summer
Owen Turner
Exactly whats wrong with icf as an intermediate routine if you tweak it up a bit. Good big exercises+good isolation you really dont need anything more
Robert Jones
You're anorexic body doesn't match up with your arms...it honestly looks like you just did curls and sit-ups for a year with hardly any food
Joshua Price
A lot of people have been asking, and since I had no idea in hell what I was doing when I started, I really have no idea. I do know that about a month before I started I literally had a bench 1rm of fucking 80. I was a true skelly
Anthony Scott
????
Wyatt Williams
What's wrong is that you get far better results by following an intermediate program when you are intermediate.
Camden King
do a 6 day PPL if you can
and eat more
Noah Garcia
>Sticking to the easiest shit without even thinking a bit
Never gonna make it fag. That guy shilling blaha atleast had an idea to change up ICF creating his own better suited for him instead of doing some fucking routine of a literally who like you are saying
Samuel Jackson
>t. fat manlet
Lanklets have a hard time finding clothes that fit properly. If your waist is 27-28, you're pretty much SOL and have to buy a larger size. There is also length to deal with, so even if you find a 29 that you like, the length is manlet size so you have to wear them lower on your body.
Sebastian White
This is some kind of troll to discredit SS, or what?
David Hernandez
Here's my back too I actually never got to really work and isolate my back that much
Brody White
do PHUL
Noah Reed
started from skeleton + lots of fat and zero muscle mode, now im at the right picture but a little more bodyfat, currently cutting
been doing greyskull lp for like 7 months now. should i switch to a pplpplx or u/l split? or something else?
i dont want to get fat again
Hunter Perry
you don't know your current lifts?
Joseph Lee
I just go along with my workouts. I don't test my maxes just because I never get around to it
Lincoln Adams
>lifting for one year >this
Matthew Taylor
>28/29 >Calling people manlets T. 32/36
Henry Rogers
>All this people suggesting going to the gym 5 times a week or even 6 times a week
Do you faggots even do anything in your life. Just find a good 3 day full body routine and you are set and you will actually have time to do stuff
Jaxson Peterson
>instead of doing some fucking routine of a literally who I've not mentioned any routine. Just saying that OP should look into an intermediate routine. Instead of following a different beginner routine which that user mentioned (in his first post suggesting ICF he made no mention of tweaking it up). And chances are, OP (and that guy) are better off following tried and tested intermediate routines made by people who know what they are doing. Instead of taking a bastardized beginner routine, made to appeal to idiots, and changing it up to what they think might be better suited to them (but probably isn't and gives them worse progress then they could have gotten).
Easton Foster
the term ''beginner'' is based on strength levels not on time lifting you dyel
post how much you bench I guarantee its nothing
Caleb Edwards
Well what sort of weight do you do your reps with? You look really fucking skinny but you have nice aesthetics so I for one am curious
John Robinson
you can still have current lifts without knowing your maxes. in fact that's more important.
what do you ohp/bench/squat for 3x5, and what do you deadlift for 1x5? or whatever kind of working set you do?
Owen Myers
I don't think so. This is a very plausible result of doing the SS routine while not eating nearly as much as Rip thinks you should.
Adam Bailey
>ICF >For idiots
???
James Phillips
Yeah I need to eat more. I just had a 1k cal lunch with 134gP with 39gC and 34gF and I'm full as hell, which I want to eventually work up to eating 3 or so times a day My lifts are light as hell. Bench 130 3x5 Squat 190 3x5 OHP 95 3x5
Eli Foster
Just to be clear these are not maxes, they're just what I used last time I lifted
Isaiah Morris
>school >gym 6days/week >still going out how about you would reconsider not sitting on fucking couch half of your day or spending 10h/day sleeping
Robert Edwards
You have basically wasted a year. Why the fuck didn't you eat SOMETHING while doing SS for a goddamn year? Am I suppose to assume that you're either-
A) an idiot B) Someone who likes to waste his own time C) Just trolling D) A combination of the above?
Lincoln Ross
fuck off normie
Parker Ortiz
>in school >not sleeping enough Enjoy being a midget
Adrian Perez
>all tall people have the same waist size >what is a lanklet skeleton
Ayden Hill
Dude you arent eating enough, your bench and ohp should be a lot more after a whole YEAR of lifting.
Alexander Smith
>implying 6-8h isn't enough >implying i am not past puberty Fuck off normie, I am in college. Are you even 18?
Benjamin Reed
The year figure is misleading. I started to actually work out correctly around august
Chase Wood
there is a good reason SS doesn't include any isolations by default. (though it does describe quite a few assistance exercises). but people who just start out often only look at the main exercises and think it's not enough. and then they find ICF and think it's better because it looks more like what they imagined.
Adrian Russell
But isolation is good and needed from day 1 you dont have to bench 200kg to do bicep curls
What the fuck are you even saying?
Dylan Perez
Dude thats still a really long time
Nathan Gutierrez
eat at least 200g of peanuts or peanut butter everyday, its like 1000 calories, also eat a fucking lot of chicken and meat, do lot of arms work and chest
Elijah Mitchell
Kys retard
Gabriel Lopez
you look the same but with less fat, all you had to do was run more
Jose Martin
and i didnt mean that in a bad way, i meant it as in you already looked Veeky Forums before
did your lifts improve in weight number?
Jayden Johnson
but your abs look great now man
Isaac Russell
Lifts basically doubled I have no idea how the pic on the left is fit lmao
Xavier Taylor
>I don'T have any arguments to defend the sub-par program I'm following >I know! I'll tell him to kill himself! That'll show him!
Logan Carter
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Isaac Martin
ONE YEAR???????????????????
Matthew Parker
Yo OP, you did good, theres nothing wrong with full body training SS style, you obviously didnt eat as much as you couldve to maximize mass gains but that's fine, everyone here is overreacting. It takes time to get things right and make good gains, for some longer than others. For getting bigger, just keep eating big and doing a good amount of volume on your lifts - make sure youre getting stronger though. For your lagging back, hit pullups 3xweek minimum, make them a big focus. Have a weekly rep goal and add a few pullups each week distributed over your 3 sessions.
Try not to focus on biceps too much for a while as your front delt and bicep are larger in comparison to your upper chest, giving you that hollow, small look new (skinny) lifters get beacuse of all the rapid front delt growth.
Dominic Peterson
You didnt give any against isolations neither you fucking stupid idiot
Isaac Evans
op here honestly pretty demoralized, I thought i had made decent progress from the changes i've felt but i guess not. I really don't know how i'm gonna start eating more etc to get a better physique
Joseph Foster
Bigger meals man, what would you normally eat for breakfast every day?
Matthew Rivera
barely anything, I just scarf down a small bowl or rice or something before leaving
Carson Cruz
Theres your problem, gotta eat big.
5 scrambled eggs with cheese, 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with peanut butter, 1/4 cup of oats and a banana. Thats like 1500 calories and around 70 grams of protein, it took me a couple of days to adjust to eating a lot more food when I first started but its easy now.
How do you expect to get big and strong if you are eating a bowl of rice for a meal?
Jacob Jones
hey man, don't get too down on yourself. you've done more lifting in one year than some people will ever do in their entire life. the most important thing to do here is not to give up and to learn from this. you already have the work ethic, you just gotta back it up with the nutritional part.
you're gonna make it brah. we're all gonna make it.
Blake Scott
you're fine. think of it this way: you're at the literal perfect position to start lifting big, eating clean, and getting jacked without having to worry about dirty or clean bulking. Some people like myself have to really work hard and longer than you to get to that starting position
Xavier Nelson
here are comments you might get from people that most dyels never will >wow your biceps are big! >abs! solid... >WOW! your veins are amazing >I love your back~
Oliver Stewart
Eat more OP, you can't build more muscle if you don't have the mass with which to do it.
Jack Lee
You have good genetics, OP. Small waist and your shoulders apparently are large, which is good. Just lift hard, eat a lot, and sleep 8 hours per day, it's not rocket science, OP.
Grayson Rogers
Buy a weight gainer to help gain muscle mass
Adam Jenkins
You've done about as well as you could have on the number of calories you've been eating. You'll probably have to consistently eat a lot more than you want to in order to gain weight quickly, and during that process, your lifts will go up faster than they ever have before. You'll also see your abs disappear since you'll gain some fat, but if you're so in love with your visible abs that this bothers you, then you can just go on a cut afterwards.
If you do gain a lot of weight, staying on SS for a little while longer may be better than switching to a new program; adding 15 pounds to your squat ever week is obviously better than adding 5 pounds to your squat every week like the Texas Method would have you do, and I think you would be able to make that kind of progress on your lifts for at least a few weeks if you were eating enough.
Daniel Thomas
will I be a similar size to OP when I cut?
James Wright
how many calories were you eating op? What your height and weight?