Sup Veeky Forums, what do you take as a pre? I like to shy away from chems so I usually just load up on carbs as a pre and take a caffeine pill since it's about the same dosage as a cup of coffee.
Pic related, eat one everyday with a low cal greek yogurt as a pre. It's god tier.
Definitely nothing sugary, makes me too comfortable and fucks up my workout I usually drink 5-6 teaspoons of coffee with water, and eat some nuts
William Sullivan
They're being sued for lying about the protein count
Juan Torres
die shill
shitty protein shitty company leave my board
Liam Scott
Just bought GAT nitroflwx, had high reviewed and I generally don't take pwos so hopefully it'll be effective
William Gray
Lol how much did they fluff the protein count?
Adam Reed
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Gavin Gonzalez
Is there any other answer?
Jack Gray
It only has 4-9g protein
Adrian Kelly
Per serving or the whole cookie?
Lincoln Ramirez
UH OH... BUSTED!!!
OP I just ordered stuff to make my own pre-workout, it should be arriving today.
Caffiene, Beta Alanine, Cittruline Malate, Creatine, L-Theanine, & DMAA for when I really wanna fuck shit up. Also got some BCAA's for fasted workouts.
Also make sure I have some simple and complex carbs before I workout.
Oh man, is that comparable to powder? 25mg would be like one baby scoop. It's gotta be different right?
Ethan Scott
The labeling is misleading it says it's 60 servings of 25mg. A lot of people take 25-75mg per session it seems like. There's 60mg in mesomorph I think. So if you really like DMAA you might not be saving a whole lot of money with this stuff, might be better off buying mesomorph. I didn't do the calculations though.
Noah Hernandez
Yeah my bad, I didn't see that. 60 servings for $20 isn't that bad a price. I avoid creatine so that's my problem. Always wanted to make my own mix.
Ian Evans
I take L-arginine, BCAAs and a PWO.
The arginine definitely helps with my pump and BCAAs help with endurance. The purpose of the PWO is mostly just the stimulants and beta-alanine. Though I would like a good PWO, my current one is shit.
My buddy recommended Mutant Mayhem. Is it good? How about mutant madness as mayhem seems to be out of stock everywhere?
I'd like to try ricky piana's full as fuck but they're hard to get in europe. The original Craze was great, before they pulled it out of market. Craze v2 is probably the second best I've tried in terms of mental stimulant but it's expensive and I'm not sure if it even has beta-alanine in it.
Lucas Scott
If you want stim and pump get Mesomorph or Dust Extreme.
Gabriel Russell
I started buying legion pulse and realized what an actual good pre-workout is like, but didn't want to pay $40 a container so I decided to make my own. The initial cost is higher but way cheaper in the long run, and you can customize it. If i work out later in the evening I'll go easy on the stims, for instance.
I might sell some to friends to make back some of the cost. I bought mostly 1kg bags from bulk supplements. If I get enough interest I'll start buying in 5kg quantities and it will get real cheap.
David Gutierrez
>I started buying legion pulse I liked Pulse as well. It was really simple and had exactly what I wanted in to. But yeah price was a little shit. I have two kinds of preworkouts.
One I take just for the caffeine and BCAAs. The other is for extended lift days or test days. It's a weird balance, but I don't drink coffee anymore as I just use preworkout instead.
Nathan Clark
Mesomorph looks great on paper. I wonder about its availability in Europe. Couldn't see it on my regular store but anywhere within EU is fine. Have to google further when I get on a computer.
Leo Morales
a1supplements.com/ Here you go buddy. They ship outside the US I believe. It's buy 1 get 1 50% off right now. 50 freedom dollars for 2 of those bad boys. Your shipping will suck but you'll live.
Ian Young
Coffee upsets my stomach. I also love the tingles from a good PWO.
I do the Rice Piano thing and make my pre-workout an hour ahead of time. Throw a bunch of ice in there and put it in the freezer. It becomes a slushie.
Jason Lopez
Yeah that's exactly what I want to do. I actually really like trying new PWOs, it's kind of a hobby I guess. But making my own is def a goal. Was just missing DMAA for my testing pre workout.
Definitely don't want to take that every day.
Luis Gonzalez
Shipping this shit through customs has me worrying. When it comes to supplements there's a lot of gray area what's legal where. If it's sold in the EU it's in the clear.
Carson Wilson
Theres better websites that sell powders just gotta look around. I just got 500g dmaa for $300.00 last august which lasts til 2019 but they lost their manufacturer.
You build a tolerance to dmaa so fast its kind of too bad, but that first week or 2 you feel like the juggernaut.
Charles Taylor
whole
and thats shitty protein, not high quality, so there is even less bioavailability from it, so less will get absorbed than the 4-9
Brandon Peterson
Mix of this: >Green tea >Cittruline Malate >Creatine >Arginin-alfa-ketoglutarate
Hudson Cruz
I looked around and couldn't find much. There's a lot of legislation currently happening. Also don't want to invest $300 on it yet.
Do you cycle on/off or just keep upping the dose? What's the difference between DMAA and Caffiene in your experience?
Andrew Walker
DMAA is extreme focus. Like caffeine if you had 0 tolerance.