Anti-Depressives and Supplements

My psychiatrist advises me to stop taking supplements ( whey protein ) because supposedly it interferes with my anti-depressives.
(4 years with a depression )
Is it true?

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Absolutely not. I'm on venlafaxin 150mg and slam down 3 scoops and 5g creatine every day without side effects. Gl son get well

Maybe get your second opinion from a different doctor instead of Veeky Forums?

Maybe you should stop taking your anti-depressives because they're interfering with your whey. Then, jump on test.

t. Anti-Psychiatrist

Lol I've been on effexor before and now on lexapro and that's never been an issue. Your psychiatrist is a gains goblin.

It might be. I was taking 25mg of zoloft and then I discovered quest bars and was eating at last one a day, sometimes 2, then suddenly my need for zoloft went to 50mg in about 5-6 days. I thought it just meant I was allergic to whey or something and stopped eating them. This just happened this week. So I think it's possible.

Also I've lost interest in about everything and started getting suicidal ideation atm. After months of lifting fine, this has hit me less than a week of daily whey protein bars. I think this is very plausible

I think the reason there are so many people saying its not possible is because they are already taking such normal to huge doses. I was taking 25mg because it was just enough for me to get out of bed and do the shit I meant to do that day and its possibly the whey fucked up that delicate balance.

I can't take a lot of zoloft because I get manic like a mf.

maybe when you posted which anti-depressants you are taking, someone would gave his opinion. Also, you can do google research on your own.
Me personally, I am taking 100mg sertraline and 2-4 scoops and I everything works fine.
Generally, I think most of AD medication should be fine with whey.
However, if you are taking something special, it is possible to have adverse effect.

here. I would like to hear from someone who's had the same experience and recovered. It's been 3 days and I didn't even workout yesterday. Someone tell me it will get better.

Found this post on bodybuilding.com of a guy who had that experience. forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=110076871

He was also taking a low-ish (50mg) dose like me. So I think the consensus is this: If you're taking a low dose, 75mg and below, and then add whey, you may need to up you zoloft because whey absolutely can interfere. If you're taking a normal to high dose, perhaps it won't make a difference.

This is important: If you are taking a high dose, and the anti-depressive you're taking doesn't seem to be effective, and you are also taking whey, it is probably the whey and you should just eat more chicken.

OP please respond s I know you're getting this.

Zoloft fucks with you more than most other anti-depressives.

It turned me into an emotionless zombie. It was kinda cool to never get mad at anything. But then you realize anger is a necessary emotion to get you out of pit of darkness, so to speak.

Meanwhile my best friend (2 years later) turned into a rageaholic for a few months when the dosage was bumped up by 40-50 mg.

Honestly, I'd try bupropoion before the "stronger" antidepressants. Doesn't abolish apathy but it abolishes the worst of the pit of darkness feeling I'd get normally.

What's the carb/sugar content of the bars?

Which protein bars are you taking? I did notice when I ate some quest bars that were high the erythritol i had issues eith anxiety but i think it was more an issue with low blood sugar causing anxiety.

How long have you been on your meds? I know when I started lexapro even at a low dosage I had some what of an increase in anxiety and depression but it got better. Still can occasionally go through a small patch here and there.

Zoloft at high doses turns me into a manic pixie boy. I sing almost compulsively and love the shit out of every moment, usually.

>What's the carb/sugar content of the bars?
4-6 net carbs depending on which flavor you get.

>Low blood sugar
I've been keto for months. It wasn't blood sugar.

A year I think. I've been on 25mg for about 3 months. I'd been tapering down up to this point, trying to stand on my own two feet. I'd say, given how swiftly my symptoms came back with a vengeance, with suicidal ideation and lowkey panic attacks without any change whatsoever in weeks except the protein bars I can definitely say that for me it was the bars, if not they whey specifically.

I got by for months on 25mg and workout out regularly and now here I am, barely getting out of bed. Didn't even work out yesterday. It's getting better but this is the textbook definition of a counter-indication.

It didn't just make it not work, because I went off zoloft for a week or so to see how I'd do without it, to see how I'm progressing, and all that did is make my motivation to workout go down and make me a little sad. Not want to kill myself.

>Zoloft fucks with you more than most other anti-depressives.
If we're posting anecdotal stuff, I've been on Zoloft for 7-8 months and suffer from very little side effects, just tiredness for the most part earlier in the day than before.

I have anger issues because I live with someone I literally find myself hoping has died on a daily basis. I take zoloft as much for the anger supression as anything else, tbqh. Anyone with a narcissistic parent can probably relate.

Yeah that's pretty common for everyone to react differently. When I was on effexor my dick didn't work but that was it. But it does have a short half life so before I would take my next dosage I would start to get a little withdrawal symptoms

After a few years off of them I tried Zoloft because I wanted to see if dick would work and no withdrawal symptoms. 4th night of taking them I woke up dizzy then started to have this weird shocking feeling going through out my body. Didn't know what was going on and went to the er. Shocking feeling kept coming and going, heart rate was up and blood pressure was like 180 or 100 or something stupid because I was having s full blown panic attack by that point. Finally they gave me a dosage of ativan and in s few minutes I was good.

I went and saw a psychiatrist after that and he started me on 5mg for 2 weeks then to take a full 10mg after that and same shit happened when I went to the 10mg pill. Turns out I have a sensitivity to ssris that I had to build a tolerance up for. After 2 months of 5mg I finally went to 10mg without any issues. And my dick still works.

Well then, I guess Zoloft is more of a wild crapshoot than I thought.

PS: If you smoke and want to stop smoking (and have some form of depression), take bupropion. Hogs the nicotine receptors so you feel nothing from smoking. Makes it a lot easier to quit than nicotine patches.

>anxiety meds
>keeps me from passing out
>keeps me sane
>side effect is weight loss
>never taken since
>power through

Mental illness is 100% mental wtf

>Shocking feeling kept coming and going, heart rate was up and blood pressure was like 180 or 100 or something stupid because I was having s full blown panic attack by that point
I had this for the first week actually, thankfully it went away. I've read a ton of horror stories regarding ED on Zoloft as well, people literally unable to orgasm etc, but luckily my junk still works.

Yeah, googling Zoloft side effects is honestly terrifying if you have no idea what you're getting into. Everyone seems to have the most bizzare and seemingly unrelated side effects.

Went to 5mg then to 10mg of lexapro for that last paragraph*

Mental illness is mostly a networking problem. We don't have a clear understanding of how to finely tune the networks like some IT specialist.

But we know certain chemicals and based on that, we forge hammers to bash various regions and hope that input creates a desired output.

Honestly the demonization of psychedelics has probably been one of the greatest tragedies. Under the guidance of a shaman-like figure (someone who can keep cool in a state), you discover pyramids of validation and self-worth. And your ability to model and rotate 3-D objects mentally increases drastically.

I got off it cold turkey and for a week I was tripping balls and imagining a guy in the clouds showing me, while I was walking in a park, my "kingdom and inheritance".

Pseudo religious experience that allowed me to understand those who have faith. I'd have it to if I felt a presence no matter where I went.

Maybe a little. But depression can be unlike that, at the least. For me, depression isn't like being sad. It's like, joy and interest is electricity and my mind is a river. For some reason, (BPA, pollution, effluence, fluoride in the water, chemtrails, take you pick) that river runs dry and I can't get joy from the things that I know I enjoy no matter what. Can't power through that. When I get like that, the thought of killing myself and is literally the only thing that gives me joy.

CONT.

Imagine this: Some network of neurons in your brain is full of moral judgments and "tribal validation" decides to ping your set of states that comprise ordinary common sense reality.

God is real for a lot of people but God is a network of neurons devoted to higher-order evaluation. Unfortunately it also comes with a bunch of OCD, or so it appears.

Yeah even on the switch to lexapro still had the same issues with the shocking feeling. Would hit around my neck and go over my head. Feels weird and terrifying. Had some issues with nausea as well first month or so. Had to just bring pepto with me to work. I had one friend who took lexapro and would not stop throwing up. Side effects suck but once you get past them and get used to your meds or find a good pill or dosage it's so worth it though. Even now if I go through a small patch of anxiety or depression it's over quickly, I'm not locking myself in my house ignoring every social event or fearing doing normal things like going to the store.

You were doing so well, then you went full retard. The end is near. September 23rd, 2017. I doubt you'll repent but remember this date and know what going on when it happens.

Now that's just plain schizophrenia, a nightmare of tangled networks where random data is inserted in the wrong slots. So to speak.

Idiot.

Pinche Cerote.

But honestly, it makes more sense to think of your "self" as an amalgamation of networks that run in RT and which are constantly processing data in the back end. It eases that spirit of moralization which blames a "you" for shit you honestly had lessened or no control over.

*rolls eyes*

*drops spaghetti in front of you*

I-I-I'm s-s-sorry....

*hands still shaking*

False, psychedelics gave me severe HPPD therefore ruining my life and subsequently causing me to become very depressed.

I'm sorry about that. Which one was it and how much? For curiosity's sake.

I've had to hold down a guy and force feed him water by drenching a towel and putting over his screaming mouth like a horse bit.

Fuck, really? The day before my birthday? FML

I used to take SSRIs and benzos. You should make an effort to get off them. Doctors don't even know what causes certain mental conditions and they know even less about how medications treat those conditions. Stop taking the chemical Jew.

When I was formally diagnosed with OCD one of the first questions the doctor asked me was whether I was religious or had obsessions about religion.

Taking meds was probably one of the worst decisions of my life. Toward the end of it they were trying to get me to take fucking Risperdal for OCD and that's when I called it quits. Fucking doctors.

>"Oh here's some pills for you. We don't know how they work or why, in some cases they don't work at all.
>"Oh btw, taking these pills might make you want to kill yourself."

Same here. Everytime I stare at something >10 seconds I start to see the melting/breathing effect from tryptamines.

Guess that's what I deserve after a 4 aco dmt/ etiz binge for about a month straight.

A lot of times I start waving my hands in front of my face to make sure I'm not actually tripping and get really paranoid someone might have drugged me and I actually AM tripping.

Got caught doing it a few times in public and at work but oh well.

this is a good idea if you also start meditating.
t.aguywhomeditates

Smoked weed every day for months at school and did some DXM occasionally, took shrooms three times but felt no effects. Smoked DMT once as well but didn't trip, just felt weird and buzzy in my head. In the second semester I stopped smoking frequently but then had an incredibly bad DXM trip that triggered the onset of my HPPD. Basically my friend went full creep mode on me (asked if he could suck my dick like wtf bro) and made me really uncomfortable while tripping, but shit hit the fan after smoking an entire blunt while peaking. This guy turned into an entity made entirely of polygons. I'm talking like old school runescape goldeneye n64 graphics. Niggas face was made of triangles and it tripped me the fuck out. But when he asked if I was okay it came out in this slow, deep, booming demon voice, which freaked me the fuck out. Stood up too quickly from some bench we had been seated on and sprained my ankle without knowing (DXM can anesthetize nearly on the same level as PCP) and once we arrived back at his the pain signals began hitting me with no pain even present. The delusions started and I became convinced that my leg was broken. I also thought my friend was attempting to rape me, when he offered me some water I swore that he put shit inside of it like some kind of date rape drug. So yeah I've been stuck with nonstop visuals 24/7 for over an entire year. Visual snow, motion trails, excessive floaters, severe tinnitus, negative and positive afterimages, starbursting, ghosting+ double vision, halos, photosensitivity, the works man. This all causes me to feel extreme depersonalization/derealization as well.
I've also experienced some of what this guy has, walls breathing and things appearing to shift around while sober.

Needless to say I had to drop out from college. But at least still got my cats :^)

Ah I've got terrible HPPD after a friend ODd me on BK2CB - lied about the amount he had given me in a bomb, was actually like 5 times the amount - shit was grim.

I'm 5 years down the line now man - visuals still there but all the residual weird feelings have gone now.

Don't take oxcarbazepine.
I have epilepsy(?) now due to the rebound phenomenon. They tout it as a mood stabilizer and never mention anything about it being a seizure med. I don't know how long the effects will last, I'm still self-tapering 7 months later, and still get seizures. I'll admit it was a power move on their part
>heroin addict
> assuming I relapse id probably immediately quit the meds altogether
> within 24 hours would seize, more than likely leading to an arrest.

Also a dick move. cunts