Does running work your glutes, hams, and calves? I feel like my posterior chain is 9/10 now after years of running 10k's

>youve never tested or developed your strength so you dont really have any
do you know how stupid this sounds?

it doesnt sound stupid at all. endurance exercise doesnt produce strength, it produces better endurance, so youve never developed strength. if youve never shown any strength, then you are, until proven otherwise, weak. if someone asks me what my best deadlift is, I dont tell them what I think Im capable of if I test my 1rm, I tell them what I hit for a 1rm even if it was a while ago and I could probably do more

Not glutes so much. Calves depends on your gait: run with "minimal" shoes which force you to run on your toes for example and you will feel it in your calves the next day if you're not used to it.

The user you're replying to is correct. Unless you're doing a fuckload of sprinting you will have the bare minimum of muscle to deliver your race pace as anything extra is waste.

running a fast 10k is roughly equivelent to 620 Wh
deadlifting 600 pounds for 3 reps is equivelent to 2.93 Wh assuming each rep takes 3 seconds and you don't count time elpased between reps.
Laughable since endurance is a major component of strength. The ability to produce force is only really useful for hitting things when you consider your biomechanics. Boxers do cardio.

how do I keep my peroneal tendon from always seizing up when running this is hell it doesn't loosen up for another 3 miles once it starts

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i have no idea what that is but try asking a fucking doctor rather than dragging your broken little body through my glorious running thread. Take some time off. Walk for a while. Get to know your body. Don't break it again or you'll end up having to pay for it.

>Tone

stop trying to redefine strength so it describes you. if you cant generate force alot of force, youre not strong

not trying to redefine anything. Wh is derived from force.

running is cardio

in relation to time. strength has nothing to do with time. it is a single, near maximal exertion of force

Running teaches form, breathing, and endurance as well as killing body fat and giving you strong legs.

Now I'm beginning to train strength and would not go without a good amount of cardio. Biking, running, w/e, it gives you mad circulatory system gains that potentiates everything else

Even if you walk up/down stairs for 15-20 minutes warmup

Running for long distance like 10ks works the slow twitch muscle fibers which are small and more durable, they get stronger via endurance workouts; trying to differentiate between endurance and strength is splitting hairs cause it doesn't work the larger fast twitch fiber muscles much at all. Sprinting on the other hand primarily works fast twitch fibers like the calves, abs, glutes, etc. which are larger in size and designed for short but intensive burst of energy. Running 10Ks would develop slow twitch fibers.

So you don't generate force when moving your body outside of the gym? My life is a lie

3600 joules for 3 seconds of that 10k vs 970 joules for 3 seconds of 600 lbs deadlift

if sprints had much carry over to strength, they would be more integral to strength training. even is spints are intensive compared to LD running, its still low intensity compared to heavy squats for example
relatively small forces over distance or time, not maximal force
now your doing the same thing but with distance instead of time. energy exerted has nothing to do with how strong you are. producing force to overcome resistance does

yes you dong

google "gait analysis" and you can find exactly when certain muscles will be active

force is in relation to distance faggot

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysterical_strength
powerlifters BTFO

rather distance in part defines force

f=m.a

strength is producing LARGE forces for SHORT periods or distances. you have tries to use energy and Wh to equate strength to endurance by saying that that producing a SMALL force over a LARGE distance or time results in equallt high energy or Wh

do you see the problem with your argument?

>tfw the guy lifting 1kg 100 times ks as strong as the guy lifting 100kg one time

My life is a lie

>strength is only squats and deadlifts

good job

>Such examples, however, have not been proven and have been dismissed by doctors across the world

hmmmmmmmmmmmm. also, if this was real, a powerlifter would still be as proportionally strong. if a normie with adrenaline=average PLer strength, then a PLer on adrenaline would still be stronger

no, but these are good indicators. what we can say for sure is that strength is NOT running fast

No. Youre making up a definition if strength that is exclusive...and still if you include time in your own argument...you just say the time needs to be immeasurably minute...

But sprinting is included in many strength training programs, it just isn't lifting so people overlook it.
youtube.com/watch?v=Uxwh2IIg_Z0

how else you you define strength. I suppose thing like carries/holds show strength and can be done for time/distance. but still have to involve producing maximal force against gravity. not in the realm of running

shit video
t. Mid distance runner

its used as GPP/cardio work. not to develop strength. GPP oriented training blocks are there to lay a foundation of general fitness so you dont get gassed and can recover from volume blocks

>The extra strength is commonly attributed to increased adrenaline production, though supporting evidence is scarce, and inconclusive when available; research into the phenomenon is difficult, though it is thought that it is theoretically possible
It isn't wrong or right for certain. And those examples aren't powerlifters and they've achieved those things which are greater than what any powerlifter so it's possible to be stronger than them if you have the right adrenaline rush and they don't. People who've never deadlifted in their lives have been able to lift cars, I doubt most powerlifters would ever be able to without hysterical strength.

this video contains GCSE tier "science". also, sprint athletes train with weights to develop ftmf

I dunno how to define strength really. It's a virtue...there are strong chess players who would make poorly as lifters...it is perhaps the ability to do more than what is necessary

Calves are fast twitch fiber muscle and are worked during sprinting among other muscles. My own claves doubled in sized by doing sprints, calf raises didn't do shit no matter how I was lifting, and a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle. There's enough slow twitch fibers in the posterior chain and legs that can hypertrophy enough to have healthy enough legs just be distance running.

theres no source on any of this happening. and if it did, a trained individual would benefit from it more, as the have objectively more strength to be boosted

lamo. we're talking about physical strength here, not this hippy dippy "maybe the real strength was the friendship we made along the way" shit

no. you may have developed calf hypertrophy from running. but unless tested we dont know how "strong" they are. and youre delusional if you thing posterior chain has enough involvement to have any significant gains

so strength is a characteristic manipulation of energy beyond that which is needed.
physical strength is lifting lots metal for a TINY time period (time is not yet escapable) as not to make it look contrived.

its the amount of force you can produce to move an object, or prevent an object from being moved. it has to be exerted on something else

the ground. I am moving the ground.

youre not. youre moving yourself in a horizontal plane to the ground. stop trying to come up with convoluted ways for you to be strong

a) the direction of motion is relative to the person perceiving it
b) I am going to pay 15 dollars for a gym membership and will try deadlifting
c) you've tried running and were shit at it
d) with no training, weighing 118 pounds I benched 200 pounds in PE
e) time is physical and a component of every physical activity (just about)
f) to deny that endurance is at least partially physical is stupid
g) to deny that strength extends beyond the physical just means you haven't lived for very long
h) to expect to dictate what is strong for a runner as someone who has just been ousted as a shit runner is kinda totally lame!

a)what are you trying to argue here
b)good
c)I run consistently and am certainly worse at it than I am powerlifting
d)doubt it, but if you did, it certainly has nothing to do with running. the two activities use completely different muscles as primary movers
e)yes, and Ive said the time periods must be short. obviously they arent no existent as thats impossible
f)endurance is 100% physical. youre trying to twist my words. it simply isnt strength
g)is this because of that strength of character/mind shit earlier, because we are specifically talking about muscular strength. thats what the thread is about
h)Im sorry, but running doesnt fall under the umbrella of strength. as I said earlier, be happy for what your good at. I dont try and claim I have good endurance because I can squat for reps of 10. we should stay in our lanes (or try to be good at the other thing under the rules of the other lane)

>he goes to the gym
>out of breath from climbing stairs