Fasting to increase HGH

protein stimulates insulin

Well surely 40 calories is a neglible amount, more so if spread across 4 hours
I'm sure even tap water has some calories, as it's never just h2o, so it would also technically break the fast, but it doesn't

Why dont just eat a pizza while you're at it.

Lmao take it easy there buddy

the only thing we know for sure is fasting increases hgh

we dont know to what extent eating anything interferes with it

probably you are right, but we dont have the research on inefficiency relative to calories right now

bcaa only gives the small, initial spike of insulin
>I'm sure even tap water has some calories
probably negligible. you sound like youve already made your mind about this.

bcaas would help "protect lean muscle" but not as much as eating proper meals would.

there are quite a few people who do pseudo-IF by replacing their breakfast and lunch with a scoop of whey (isolate). personally i would do it that whey if i had to do IF but this stuff definitely needs more research.

nigger do you really think the human body is so fucking retarded that the first thing it does after a mere few hours without food is to start eating it's own muscles?

your body eats your muscles all the time, dude.

Cant you just do a 16-17/8 fast like everyone else on this planet?

>build up all this fat for a rainy day
>whoops i've gone 20 hours without a burger, better ignore those fat stores and eat lean muscle instead

Although the amount of tissue in the body tends to remain fairly constant over time,
those tissues are actually undergoing an essentially continuous process of breakdown and
resynthesis; the two processes together are generally referred to as tissue turnover.
This holds for protein-based tissues such as plasma proteins and skeletal muscle which
undergo a continuous process of breakdown and resynthesis. Fundamentally what occurs
in terms of the amount of these tissues present depends on the long-term relationship
between protein synthesis and breakdown.

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Under normal dietary circumstances, an average-sized individual may turn over roughly
300 grams of protein per day; that is a total of 300 grams of protein will be broken down
with most of it being resynthesized back into tissue. Larger and smaller individuals will
turn over proportionally more or less total protein per day. As I'll discuss in Chapter 4,
this doesn't mean that daily protein requirements are 300 grams per day as most of the
protein broken down is simply reutilized by the body.

I've worked out while fasting and noticed that my recovery and workload is higher for some reason.

there's a difference between the normal cellular maintenance your body does 24/7 and actually losing muscle because the you need it for energy. as long as you have literally some body fat stores your muscle tissue will be fine for a 24 hour fast. the body will even eat scar tissue and loose skin before tucking into muscle.

>walking around with shit on you

This. Always gets my goose when shittypants fags tell me that they get clean with dry TP and I'm some kind of fag for spraying water up my bum.

Filthy shitty pants when will they learn?

Source?

The most convincing argument for a bidet I ever heard was "If you got shit anywhere else on your body you wouldnt be okay with wiping it off with a piece of paper and calling it a day"

Truth.
I fasted 5 times now I have hgh gut

That would explain it

Unless you inject 2g of trenbelona and a few units of insulin with your hgh boost, you'll never make it

tap water has calories? as in chemical energy stored in it? no you retard.

I'm going to try this today until bfast tomorrow at seven. I have tea, that will hold me over

I'd rather take a shower than have a shitty wet ass on the toilet. I would only want a bidet if I was a woman so my pussy didn't smell like old piss all the time.

Agreed to an extent. People called me a liar for losing 20lbs in two weeks through starvation + manual labour (was poor) but keeping muscle mass. That was unusual for me though; my body is quite stubborn and so actually tend to lose more weight stuffing my face and being inactive, like when I was sick for a week around Christmas. I dropped 2 jeans sizes and 10 lbs, but I had no definition. All my muscle wasted. I was a lot smaller and lighter but... squishier. Fat. I was taking in all this energy and yet my body ate muscle first.

Retard? Well, I never.

Humans dont have a genetically high set point for lean muscle unlike most other animals and it's energetically costly tissue so eating it will prolong the useful life of fat stores.

Shut up, faggot.

Stop making shit up. An overnight fast (~12h) is sufficient to create a negative net protein balance and quantifiable changes in muscle mass and strength gains

ajpendo.physiology.org/content/early/2017/05/23/ajpendo.00273.2016

Net protein balance is greatest from regular protein feeding

anabolicsteroidcalculator.com/resources/articles/supplements/article6.pdf

Fat does not supply the anaplerotic input to the TCA cycle that amino acids do, so there will always be some basal requirement for amino acid oxidation to prevent death

jbc.org/content/277/34/30409

sorry man, I've been fasting too long. didn't mean to be so rude.

Your body strips the nitrogen (the thing that makes an amino acid an amino acid chemically speaking) from the amino acids, leaving a shell of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, which is used as an energy source when no carbs or fats are available.
>TLDR: Taking BCAAs is not fasting

Dat hgh gut

does IF increase cortisol?
anyone know?
thats my main problem with it that you would be mostly irunning on fight or flight response which is not healty

fasting has been proven to be useless
so no

wat dos that meen

Thank you

Fucking kids hear +1300% and lose their shit. 1) that's just straight up wrong. 2) won't offset catabolism 3) EXTRA HGH DOES NOT PROMOTE EXTRA MUSCLE GROWTH. Even taking into account IGF it stimulates, the effect is incredibly minimal. Its for fat loss, good skin, good sleep, and water retention. You could spend 1/100th the amount of money on testosterone and gain way fucking .

Also, HGH excess ruins insulin resistance. So even if this did work, and if HGH grew muscle, and if the catabolism didn't happen, and if you somehow got +%1300 you would be absolutely ruined insulin wise

The body is in constant ebb and flow. You are gaining and losing micro amounts of muscle and glycogen multiple times every day.

Research before contributing, not after.

great citation

Kwashiorkor (sp?)

Very important concept to understand if you want to pretend to know anyting about nutrition and fitness

thanks, here's another one

^1 scratchnsniff.com/yourmotherscunt.snf. Retrieved 9 June 2017.

Yes. Therefore, catabolism.