How do you force yourself long term to change for the better and become a truly strong and rational man...

How do you force yourself long term to change for the better and become a truly strong and rational man? To me lifting is the easy part, diet and nofap/porn just a little bit harder. But the hardest is quitting habits like chainsmoking, alcohol, wasting my time and doing what I'm supposed to be doing when I'm not lifting. I'm tired of the short term solutions, constantly having to convince myself with stoic catchphrases, role models, the book of pook or whichever pdf is hot right now (I was off the internet for a long time). My personal plans and life goals are even less convincing.

This used to be easier when I was in my early 20s. I used to get tingles from the word "discipline", I used to be curious and excited and hopeful about what I'm capable of when I stick to things. Now everything is just annoying and stupid. I'm not even depressed, anxious and suicidal like those cool kids. Just fucking irritated.

I don't think this situation will change without me coming up with some kind of goal outside of lifting. But for what purpose? I really can't come up with one.

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Vitamin D my man
Also socialise more

No one can answer this for you. You already know you need some kind of goal.
Just some tips
Get out of your head
Also pompey was a good general

What do you want to change about yourself, what don't you like? Why?

For me my main motivation in quitting alcohol is that its bad for you. Its basically poison and makes you do retarded shit and end up in jail. I drink very rarely for social events now and quite moderately.

So how do you force yourself for long term change? That is a good question. I use rationality 9 times out of 10.
>if its bad, don't do it
>if its good, do it
The rest is repetition. Fake it til you make it usually works for me. Act like a lifter and you will become a lifter. Act like a good speaker and you will become a good speaker. This goes hand in hand with research and practice.

I'm still waking up so forgive the sloppy post.

Done and done my man
At least the facial expression is what I have in common with him

>ppmpey was a good general

t-nation.com/training/tip-think-small-win-big

Fuck off caesarboo

Life has no meaning user, you are getting at the age where everything is becoming mundane and boring and that's okay, it's part of living. It actually just started hitting me this last year (I'm going on 24 now) everything is just stale. Video games don't excite me like they used to I find myself having trouble getting into anything and playing games that have no story or no required invested interest, I find myself reliving the nostalgia of older games in my head. Lifting doesn't excite me like it used to because I know it's not a means to an end (when you are young you think you are on top of the world, lifting will get you somewhere etc) truth is it doesn't do much for you beyond potentially attract some sluts (and for some people with nothing that's enough) Yeah it keeps you healthy, yeah it might help your confidence, but it's not the one thing that is going to solve your emotional problems or social problems. I find myself still enjoying music but even that is getting stale, especially when the majority of music made nowadays is all over-synthesized overproduced garbage that is just getting worse as time goes on. I went into a clothing store yesterday and it hit me that I'm getting fucking old, the style has changed, people have changed, the trends have changed, I'm no longer young I'm approaching the in-between, the 18-22 year olds are coming up and I'm on my way out, those were the years I should have wasted taking more risks then I did.

It hits some people later, they find out when they are like late 20's going into their 30's that it's over. I can see the end now though and I hate it, every year I age I hate it, getting older fucking sucks. Life just isn't as exciting anymore, nothing is, and it's because we've done the same shit over and over again, we've dreamed the same dreams over and over again, we're stuck in a trance where nothing really truly changes. For some it's aggravating, for others it's just living. You just gotta live

>better man
>rational man

Where does this shit come from?
Abingdon thus notion of rationality, and you will become more flexible to any ideas that may spring to you. Your true will that is to bring you unlimited happiness lies beyond rationality and so, beyond your reach.

>What do you want to change about yourself, what don't you like? Why?
Drugs are expensive and make me puffy like pompey. I want to have more money and less chub and zombie aesthetics in the facial area if you know what I mean.

Thanks for the post I will seriously dwell on it despite having heard it a hundred times.

Ya its one of those things. You keep reminding yourself but I see your dilemma, you want to make it automatic so that you don't have to remind yourself because its now a part of who you are. I've made many changes like this in my life, we all have, but I'm finding it difficult at the moment to fully put in words how we've done it, and how to do it again successfully. I'll think about it in the shower and probably throughout most of the day while I'm working.

>strong
>rational

Both are spooks. You do what is beneficial to you based off of your wants. Recognise that hedonism in modernity is about chasing desire not need, - commodified.

If you want to be the best you, go travel, submit yourself to new stimuli whilst keeping the positive routines. Environment matters a lot.

My excuse is that I had to make a decision between sharing my deepest enigmatic desires and a catch-all "self improvement" intro but I'm with you.

I have a hard time deciding what is in my best self interest to be hoenst. At least 50% of my wants and desires are off the wall and certaintly not beneficial to me long term. Perhaps you can expand on your thoughts a little bit?

It helps to be young, I know that much.

My feels exactly. Thanks.

This "spook" meme is ridiculous. Everything in life hangs from your own will. If you have lived a life in service of an ideal that feels good and whole, it does not matter that the idea is a construct, as you yourself have made it into something greater.

Could use a help with this as well

The more I exercise, Less i drink & smoke the worse i feel in general.

Once you slow down with the alcohol it becomes a lot easier to cut out the chainsmoking. Not right away (you might smoke more at first to compensate,) but in about a year's time.

I'd also recommend using the patch. It made me sick to smoke on the patch so all I had to do was slap it on in the morning and prevent myself from smoking.

Overcoming procrastination is really tough. I find it helps to adopt the mindset that you should be improving your life/self 100% of the time. Obviously, that's not an attainable goal, but it keeps me from wasting time binging Netflix instead of doing more productive things with my time.

>inb4 you're wasting time being on Veeky Forums right now
I'm drinking my cup of apple cider vinegar before bed, fuck off.

>Lifting doesn't excite me like it used to because I know it's not a means to an end (when you are young you think you are on top of the world, lifting will get you somewhere etc) truth is it doesn't do much for you beyond potentially attract some sluts (and for some people with nothing that's enough) Yeah it keeps you healthy, yeah it might help your confidence, but it's not the one thing that is going to solve your emotional problems or social problems.
Fucking hell user

why u make me feel

want =/= desire
I am hungry therefore I want food. I am hungry therefore I desire a pizza. A desire is never fulfilled, but chased. It's a yearning for a special need that is half based in reality (in this case, nutritition and taste) and half based on psycho-social mechanisms (that a pizza is the ultimate taste for this occassion). A desire is never fulfilled, but constantly sought under commodification. All's fine when it's a constant feedback loop of small indulgences in said desire, but after a while, the other parts of your body, mind, will, etc. begin screaming that something is off. But then you are adjusted to confronting desire and not need, so everything falls through.

This can be applied to many aspects of life. Continuing with the theme of dieting, learning to appreciate the texture and composition of food can make you refrain from yearning 'taste' as you're used to. The Japanese concept of umami is a good standard - savoury but not excessive, depending on the quality of what you eat alongside sides complimenting the main meal but not overpowering taste. Speaking from personal experience, after cutting out milk chocolate when I first began eating less shit, the next time I actually tasted it, I felt sick from the sweetness of the taste and I could enjoy a medium-rare sirloin without any salt or spices.

In terms of lifegoals...that's on you to decide. The harder road is always the only one that pays off, reading when you don't want to read, working when you'd rather laze off, confronting problems immediately instead of waiting for the best time, etc. etc. forcing yourself through that helps, but it varies considerably.

Life in service of an ideal only restricts you in your potential. Stirner's assault of abstractions was directed at political liberalism, conservatism and social liberalism (or socialism/Communism rather) since they all substitute between themselves ideas through which to restrict people. Be it the ideal of Man under liberalism to replace God, with Divine Will being Law (submitting oneself to the state's power and letting it decide your Right based on its Might) or the idea of Society under Communism. The point being that these abstractions limit you once you know your own place in the physical world and the spritual (or psychosexual, in modern nomenclature). At that point you work no longer in service of the Thing, but to make Things work for you. Using Laws to your own advantage is egoistic, rejecting the restrictions of Law on your own person through correct Might is the actual liberation Stirner discusses. Why wait, wageslave, w/e for the sake *of* something, instead of making it *yours*?

people here lift either for the sake of women, social approval, an abstract ideal, etc. Lifting because you see yourself in it, that it is your property in which you lift, is the way through which you obey your unadulterated will, unphased by sensuality (for it restricts you to the world of things, and your emotions are then a priori to your own judgement) or approval (restricts you to the public sphere, letting your subconscious desire for fitting in precede will).

LSD.

>rationality
semitic meme

Zuckerberg has higher IQ than Hitler, but a much, much smaller soul.

>Lifting because you see yourself in it, that it is your property in which you lift, is the way through which you obey your unadulterated will, unphased by sensuality [..] or approval
But what if I use sensuality and approval to my advantage? Lifting has many social advantages right?

>In terms of lifegoals...that's on you to decide. The harder road is always the only one that pays off, reading when you don't want to read, working when you'd rather laze off, confronting problems immediately instead of waiting for the best time, etc. etc. forcing yourself through that helps, but it varies considerably.
I wish I could be as sure of that as you. I just don't know how to achieve that type of certainty/stamina anymore. Sure eventually I'll read another biography of a great man and I'll say "Hey I can do that" -- two weeks later and I'd rather not. It's a really stupid hole that I let myself fall into. It's like I'm certain that I don't have the stamina. It's a pathetic mindset. If only the word "pathetic" would encourage me to not be pathetic anymore. Low test or what?

if you sensuality to your own will, see it as a possession or property, then it's fine - Stirner's not a stoic, but rather it's better to use pleasure for the sake of relaxation as that is the intention (you masturbate to relieve stress since that's what your brain tells you to do before rationalising the need to breed, for example). Approval can be a reward cycle, but it all depends on your own wants, as does what I wrote just before. Working for the sake of someone else, but not seeing the work in yourself is bad, i.e. "there's a really hot girl and her bf is jacked, if I get joocy then I'll cuck him", rather than "there's a girl I like but she seems unavailable, her boyfriend seems strong but I know that I am stronger if I work. She's the girl I want and at any opportunity between now and the end I'll use every chance I get to make her my own."
The latter doesn't wallow in your place socially. You recognise yourself amongst other people and psychosexually you condition yourself to be stronger in your will to take her. You don't obsess, but see her as your right by your might, past or otherwise, imagining yourself as already being the man she wants but also in seeing what you use within your property (skills, advantages, etc.) to make her part of you, your quality.

I like it when girls call be buff even though I myself have other objectives. But the point is that the work itself, the lifting is what I yearn for since I see it in myself. Admiration from others is in the same way them projecting their views onto you, that you represent a standard for them and them only. That they are aware that this is confined to their current self-property is up to them.

I've never found biographies to be helpful. Rather, find something difficult or you think impossible and just hammer at it, even fruitlessly until you conquer it. Write a story, travel to some undiscovered shithole, learn a language to read obscure texts, make friends at every opportunity and take every chance life gives you, however futile it may seem. I can't inspire you, no one can really. The only piece of advice I can give is to change environments if you can. Go to public lectures at universities, study an online course, w/e. See the challenge not as an obstruction to the destination but as the mode of travel for everything.

Notice how I said "good and whole." Liberalism and conservatism are rotten ideas that should have been left behind in the 20th century. Anyone who truly follows them will end up a pathetic mess, if they even end up anywhere at all.

I'm not going to hide my message behind an obscure and flamboyant mess of Veeky Forumseracy. I believe that there are still beliefs and ideals worth fighting for.
Race, religion, strength, morality.

Modern conservatism isnt just one ideology faggot. Its a collection of anti-left ideologies who are only allies of convenience.

where can i read more about this mindset?
>The point being that these abstractions limit you once you know your own place in the physical world and the spritual (or psychosexual, in modern nomenclature). At that point you work no longer in service of the Thing, but to make Things work for you. Using Laws to your own advantage is egoistic, rejecting the restrictions of Law on your own person through correct Might is the actual liberation

All of which are garbage ideologies that are too scared to even talk about race. Genuine conservatives are too pathetic to have a chance of stopping the cancer that it is faced with. Please don't confuse the Right for conservatism.

>tfw revolutionary anti-bourgeoisie anti-capitalist racist stalinist
feels good man

You sound a lot like me. Try doing Jordan Peterson's future authoring program. Ever since I did it I find that just by envisioning what my potential future might look like, I've been studying more, putting more effort into keeping my room and myself presentable, and generally being less lazy and useless.

Also, as for not having a goal in life, consider picking up an instrument you really wish you could play. Doesn't matter how old you are. Ever since I started playing piano a year ago I've been completely obsessed and it definitely gives my life purpose, because I know I'll need to practice a lot more to be truly good at it.