Last day I back squat

Ok this is the last day I back squat. I'm feeling it in my lower back yea my form is probably off but what exactly is so magical about these squats? I feel like it is just dogma and guys on here who have ego attached to their stupid numbers on their squat that no one cares about.
To get my form right is going to take a shit ton of work and only manlets under 5'7 seven should realistically do this movement.
If I do trap bar deadlifts I feel it a shit ton in my glutes and quads then I just do deadlifts for my hamstrings. I can also do good shit like split squats, lunges, step ups, front squats etc. What is so magical about this movement that I need to continue it at the expense of my spine?

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...Are you asking for fucking permission? Do whatever you want.

>To get my form right is going to take a shit ton of work
Oh no, work?!

>you
>making it
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>It's going to take a bunch of work to properly do either the best, or 2nd best exercise anyone can do for gaining mass.
>Trying to come up with a bunch of bullshit excuses because he's lazy, and has shit form

third goddamn thread I've had to hide because it features full bare ass. what don't you understand of the concept of a blue board safe for work?
fuck you.

No I want an explanation of what it works better than split squats? split squats carry over better to real life shit anyway. You don't have to go over 150 kilo to get good legs anyway. Risk reward I'm not a fucking powerlifer.

Then stop squatting with your lower back. Fuck it's like it takes a genius to fix your squat or something.

It's not bare, she's wearing a thong.

>earnestly expecting any board on Veeky Forums to be sfw

how fucking new can you be

>Risk reward I'm not a fucking powerlifer.
Then why do you care what fucking powerlifters think you should do?

If you're not getting paid to do squats then it's probably not worth doing them, they are a high danger exercise and one fuck up can injure you for life
The people that stress that it's such a safe exercise are the same that say leg press are more dangerous because of the webms of people doing stupid shit with them, I know because I've argued about it many times

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>doesn't care or understand blue/red board distinctions
>this is le edgy site why would you care xD
How new indeed

oh and OP what weight do you squat with?

It's not that easy manlet fucking dogma is what it is. Trap bar and split squats is more than enough. Just like the dogma of low fat and only 'healthy fat' making everyone low T. Just like the dogma of excessive protein. Enjoy your disc herniations you may think you have good form but I bet you don't the squat is not even suited to all body types and most western europeans can't go low because of their hip socket will cause buttwink (look up stuart mcgill)

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Honestly though, do whatever exercises you enjoy. You will get better gains with a worse exercise that you enjoy then a better exercise you hate. Most of the arguements are like 5-10% better muscle activation, which won't matter if you half ass an exercise you hate.

just because she's not spreading wide open exposing her asshole doesn't mean it's still not NSFW

>earnestly believing the reddit space meme

lmao you probably go to reddit more than anyone else in this thread

>this is Veeky Forums, we are edgy, we are legion
>we love cheese pizza, gore, and porn because that's how fucking sick and degraded we are
>blue board? kek, who cares!

Shut the fuck up you absolute faggot

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Less weight. If you just want some nice wheels stick to higher reps. You don't really need to go super heavy to get bigger legs. Look up Tom Platz. Built fucking gigantic legs with lots of high rep stuff.

Also, one of the best leg/overall mass building programs is the 20 rep squat program. Not that you need to do that, but 2-3x10-12 on squats will still build great legs without putting a ton of weight on your back.

that's a lot of projection my projectionist friend
I don't understand how you could possibly be confident that nsfw content won't be commonplace even on blueboards considering the population of these boards. you know where you are right? give me a fucking break dude you have to be so fucking new to be crying about a big booty on a blueboard

It's the best workout OP, but it's not for everyone.

Ok thanks. I feel like the split squat is underrated though if you have 2 40 kilo dumbells and a weight vest should be enough weight for me desu.

Do skateboard squats

front squat and high bar is where its at. dont fall for the low bar meme insecure egolifters shitpost to boost their numbers

For me squats got a lot better and more enjoyable when i got into a wider stance. Maybe a tiny bit wider than shoulderwidth. I´m am not too tall (6'0) but i have pretty long legs.

No, more people should be aware that squats are dangerous
There are professionals that are now fucked for life and they had years of experience as well as coaches and people think it'll never happen to them

Wait, how can you trap bar deadlift but can't hit the bottom of the squat. The bottom position is almost identical. I don't think it's a hip socket thing if you can move your leg up for some exercises and not others, just think you need ot rethink your squat.

I expect this from /tv/, not from Veeky Forums. Most of the time it's pretty good with the NSFW content, but then of course you get underage newfags that think Veeky Forums is the dark net and come on here and post whatever the fuck they want without reading the rules

>The bottom position is almost identical
Not really. Trap bar is still primarily a hip hinge, and the hips shouldn't be that low.

>I expect this from /tv/, not from Veeky Forums
well then I'm not sure what the fuck you were expecting

>you know where you are right
>give me a fucking break dude
>you have to be so fucking new to be crying
>big booty
Jesus Christ underage please leave. Not all Veeky Forums is /b/ you edgemaster.

Bet you never complained about the half naked dudes in most of the threads faggot

I can go ass to grass if I want but its just that it's dangerous when you get lumbar flexion it will cause a herniation eventually according to dr stuart mcgill.

looks close to the bottom of the squat to me. Point being if you can get this low to start the deadlift, why can't you get this low in a squat. I would more look at what you do different betweent he two.

Don't keep doing it at the expense of your spine. With that being said, let's not assume your form is right and it needs to be at the expense of your spine.

If I had to guess, I'd say your bar position or hip position is off. Try low bar or high bar (whichever one you're not doing now) or focus on moving your hips back on the way down and think about moving your hips straight up on the way up. Decent internal cues to help you with those.

Don't listen to these fucktards saying it's a high risk movement and not worth doing unless you're a powerlifting.

Also, to be blunt, you kind of sound like a whiny bitch who just doesn't want to squat.

If you have the handles low like that maybe but I have never heard of buttwink in the trap bar does it even happen?

Sorry, by bottom i don't mean ATG. Meaning simply around parallel. Which shouldn't give you lumbar flexion.

There's nothing whiny about being intelligent and finding better solutions and not relying on dogma stop being attached to your unrealistic movement not useful for real life. My goal is not huge legs anyway it is performance and longevity.

Thinking about it I don't think buttwink even matters in the trap bar because the barbell is not on top of the spine I'm guessing.

>i have bad form and therefore this is a stupid and useless movement

It's what I've started doing only going to around parallel. I brace and hold my breath breathe out my stomach on core. I wouldn't say I'm in pain it's just sore and I'm not sure if it should be.

why the fuck are you on Veeky Forums at work

i think it would still be an issue, becuase it's loaded spinal flexion (even if it's on the way back down). I just have never seen anyones starting position have buttwink. Meaning you should be able to come down to the same position in the squat without any pain in your lower back. Honsetly if you don't want to squat it doesn't hurt anyone, i just wouldn't want a lift to beat me.

Performance in what? rowing a boat? If you want to run fast, jump high, or do anything involving the lower extremity, you'll likely want to squat. Not the only thing you can do, but probably the best thing.

But hey, if you'd rather do hip thrusts and leg press instead to get something similar, go for it. But it's not a better solution. You're not gonna hurt yourself squatting correctly unless you're overreaching (which I'd argue is not correctly squatting)

I've had this before, like it tightens up. 2 things may help. Tightening your lats by pulling the bar around your body and making sure your glutes are activated during the entire movement. if either of those are off then the lower back takes the load. It's not that it's weak, it just isn't supposed to be doing that much.

>Point being if you can get this low to start the deadlift, why can't you get this low in a squat.

That's a valid point. Mine was that you shouldn't be that low in the first place. Your shins should be close to vertical (varies by height) with the hips higher with either bar.

>focus on moving your hips back on the way down

All credibility lost.

I don't like to squat either, but I do it. Who ever got better from just doing fun stuff.
Are you doing the 'stripper pull' when you stand up, shooting your butt up first then pressing w legs? Do you even have the mobility to keep your chest up throughout? And if your form is crumbling, ITS TOO HEAVY. Just back off the weight and be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither were DEEZ GAINZ

Try these two cues:
>corkscrew feet into the ground outwards
>break at the knees first

If you're bracing properly and do these two cues you'll actually use your ass, you're knees will track properly, and you won't squat morning the weight.

Yea I guess I'm not completely sure I'm going to quit I always come back for some ego reason to squats. I guess doing some glute raises and trying to find squat shoes before I quit I've been doing it barefoot.

And why is no one talking about mobility. Tight muscles are tight muscles. Do some ROMWOD. stretch that psoas and glutes

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Fuck you OP. I didn't read a single word you wrote.

try stretching for a couple of weeks, if it still fucks with your spine do something else

Stupid question, but are the chest muscles usually a secondary muscle?

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, because it seems that during the bench press or dumbbell flyes, I can still flex and relax my chest during any point of the movement. Sure, there's definitely tension, but it's totally not comparable to the way I can flex my biceps, for example. When doing a curl, my bicep is under 100% tension and there's no way to change that in the movement. Somehow the same does not seem to apply to any chest exercises, at least not to the same degree.

When looking for explanations of the dumbbell flyes, I do read a lot of 'squeeze when at the top'. Is that what this is about? Because apparently I can do the entire movement without ever having to purposefully use my chest.

Yeah dude for sure, I guess Layne Norton doesn't know how to squat.

>name drop some tard

youtube.com/watch?v=Wl0RF65VLHQ

idgaf how much weight that is, that's a squat morning. Motherfucker's torso is basically parallel with the floor. If you want to work your low back, do this. If you want to work your legs, do actual squats.

Me after I continue take Veeky Forums's advice and continue squatting youtube.com/watch?v=GP_0BhCw2rg
Ok how about trap bar dl, split squat and sled push? good enough replacement?

Just do trap bar DL and leg press.

Another retard that doesn't understand simple geometry.

Kill yourself meathead.