Reminder that if you have narrow shoulders you shouldn't even bother lifting...

Reminder that if you have narrow shoulders you shouldn't even bother lifting. You'll always look like shit no matter what.

Reminder that the people who start these threads always have 15 inch pencil necks

Both dudes in this picture depict the extremes of both sides.
But in general: Yes. Wide shoulders are a huge part of aesthetics and you'll look like shit if you have pic related left side going on for you. Kys is an option at that point desu.

its funny because i remember the full picture and the right guy looks fucking bad from down there

Yes he's got them child bearing hips apparently. But the shoulders and face are huge plus so I doubt he's faring bad at getting girls.

It doesn't matter if you have big hips if your shoulders are larger than it.

Somewhat true
If your obliques protrude like hell tho and your ribcage is too narrow in the lower part, then it'll look a bit odd. But still better than being a shoulderlet

>wide broad shoulders
>huge waist fridge torso/waist

If I had a 30 inch waist I'd look like a fucking cartoon character. My shoulders are like 60 inches, but my waist is 40 inches, so yeah it's still much wider than my waist, but my waist is still huge compared to the average guy.

The lowest my waist is when I'm

Nick bateman has a huge waist but his shoulders are huge too

What is considered wide shoulders? 18 inches across?

>my waist is 40 inches
Jesus Christ fat boy

...you're joking right?

my 3 year old baby cousin has 20 inch shoulders

please tell me you're joking
fuck it I've had enough
UNLESS YOU HAVE 1487+ INCH SHOULDERS YOU DO NOT BELONG ON Veeky Forums AND SHOULD FUCK OFF
fucking framelets when will they learn?

You know whats fucky you loser robot? The guy on the left has a better shoulder to waist ratio and better gains than the fag on the right

And yet, aesthetically, he still looks worse. That's the point.

What is framelet cut-off? How many inches?

>And then he said "my shoulder to waist ratio and gains are god-tier"

Why don't you post the rest of the pic to reveal the guy on rights fucking birthing hips you dickless faggots?

>inches
it's about ratio, pic related, less than two heads is kys tier

Well how do you know if you're in the clear?

Measure the width of your skull then the width of your shoulders and compare ratios

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>made up names
>made up facts

I choose the truth

>tfw 6'3 and 50" shoulder circumference

Feels pretty nice

18 inches probably

>guy inside a guy

huh, based on the nationalities given i'd totally believe it if everything was switched; guy on the left looks more BR like while the guy on the right looks more European

The steroid use on the left guy and his pec tear make it look even worse

>41 and married with 2 kids
No thanks

Are you sure? I'm like 19 and one of the smallest frames at my gym despite lifting for 2 years.

this must be retarded, i look like the first, but i measure in paint the width of my head and the width of my shoulders and the ratio is 2.75.
I must suck at math or i don't understand what to do, help.
Also my hips, FUCK ME I'M SO DEFORMED.

>tfw average shoulders but big head

thats average 20 is when they start to look broad

>tfw height, shoulder width and neck width are what you have going for you
BUT
>tfw small wrists
WORTHLESS

Reminder that op is a homo, a self-hating autistic home at that.

> bideltoid width is everything theory
face theory desu

it's not the width of your head, retard, but its length, pic related

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What's the waist size?

ok, now i can suicide.

91cm
Thats 35"

I got 25cm long head and 40cm wide shoulders (for 182cm height), should I kys myself?

You have wide shoulders OP? Post your pic. I want to see what a real aesthetic specimen looks like.

> manlet so my head is larger relative to my body

>less than two heads is kys tier
I'm so sorry, user.

the guy on the left looks better desu

>40cm wide shoulders
nigga i'm 175cm and My shoulders are 50 cm

wtf

>length of skull 10'
>width of shoulders 18'

..ha

even using the widest part of the shoulder muscle instead of skeletal frame my shoulders are still only 22'

sigh

Is 19'5'' - 50 cm skeletal frame acceptable?

Bateman's only about 6'2" so that guy to the left must be tiny

pls

I didnt know i had wide shoulders until i started lifting and realized that my waist and shoulders arent naturally the same width

I got my shoulders are roughly 2.5 head lengths, is this good?

Grow a beard. Your head and neck look like one long skin column.

Do you measure vertical or horizontal.

From bottom of chin to top of head, so vertical.

just a bit of muscle mass can do wonders though

You look like a fucking t-square now. Did you just do shoulders and nothing else?

These ridiculous cherry-picked examples aside, the average guy who has poor "FRAME" is simply a lazy fuck who didn't train properly.

thanks for the mire breh

What gear did you use?

>dyel
>gear

but ty for the mire bro

>heh, if I make everyone else insecure and miserable than I'll feel better about myself

kill yourself neet

>That body
>Steroids

Hahahahah

Weider weights barbell set, no bench ohp only. What kind of workout gear do you use?

both look weird and unproportionate tbf

He didn't do deadlifts

wtf dude did you piss yourself? and why the tight underwear?

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same for me
large shoulders and long arms but a pretty square torso
makes me look like an ape or one of those old anti-irish cartoons

Measure shoulders again. I think you fucked up. My 45kg 5'2 Asian girlfriend has shoulders that big

That's wide as fuck. I think you mismeasured if you can look at that and think it's narrow.

mirin not ironically, how tall are you? and how much you weight? what's your routine? how many times a week? sorry for all the questions, started lifting a month ago and I'm doing phraks lp with some added shit

You'll always look like you're buff in a tight shirt if you have wide shoulders even if you don't lift. Shoulderlets be jelly.

22 inches is like 99th percentile width dude

Training doesnt affect your frame

no u fucking moron he didnt train neck

>IQ of 119

Is this much? Serious question

are you gay? if not why the fuck would you wear that underwear

it's alright

Anything above 130 is ideal

No, it's only just above one standard deviation above the norm.

You need 1.96 standard deviations above for it to be considered outside the normal population parameters with an accuracy of 95%.

>Tfw just under 4 standard deviations from the norm
I've met a handful of people (not hard when I'm studying maths at a top university) that I feel are on the same level as I am or more and the majority are fucking aspie

Zyzz had a mediocre frame. Nothing to write home about, but not a framelet either

This is what a huge frame looks like. Wrists bigger than arms of the skellies here

Its crazy how you can see from the back already that the guy isnt very good looking. I don't know how, but im absolutely certain about it
compare to pic related on the right

>them nips tho 0_o

pretty much me.

It's a death sentence. Might as well start dating asian girls. There's not even a surgery for it.

>6'2"
>only

Fuck me

Broad shoulders are literally everything.

Pic related is the absolute best you can hope for as a shoulderlet. This is what a ripped shoulderlet looks like. In other words you'll always look small and frail no matter how jacked you get lel

Its a meme you dipshit, he is 6'4 or so
The guy to the left is 6'2

He could try to pack some more muscle on his delts though. They're not very developed.

175cm 68kg

About 2 months of very intensive calisthenics/body-weight exercises. whenever I had no soreness I'd work out. my routine was quite random, but there's a lot of good info online so do some research and make up your own routine. KEEP IN MIND those are noob gains, so after that I've had slower and harder progress

yes, I have a scar-tissue on my chest that is quite wide thus my other nipple is lower than the other

Hit your fucking left arm/side for fucks sake


You look like the fucking charger from left 4 dead

>tfw exactly two heads
I'm skelly af though, how much shoulder width could noob gains give?

kek'd.

True though, it's quite a discrepancy.

The golden ratio for should/waist is 1,77
>tfw 1,80

Literally all the guy on the left needs to do is target his lats and shoulders far more, and literally stay away from any exercise that works the traps for a good while to let them atrophy. Proportions are the issue, not skeletal structure.

Reminder that no matter how shit you look, you will look better after lifiting.

notice the lighting? and how it creates an illusion of imbalance? yeah, that