Vegan

vegan thread
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jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278
m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950
ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883
sci-hub.io/
pastebin.com/EuBLcktu
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917=
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441
pastebin.com/kLtkMM4w
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22121108
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11743810
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4135519/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18789600
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342103
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15955547
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279082
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18980957
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3081176
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22867847
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422422
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12588089
abcnews.go.com/Health/Diabetes/wireStory?id=2244647
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386029/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19351712
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481955
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596361
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15983191
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24149445
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1534437/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
circ.ahajournals.org/content/108/22/2757.full.pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25352269
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434797
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20820038
circ.ahajournals.org/content/105/25/e197.full
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967195/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4583329/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4844163/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677007/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2877098/
pdfs.semanticscholar.org/22dd/5f9ef68e2816e27ab51c91130a8b81d58d5c.pdf
instagram.com/shawnbaker1967/
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Vegans are deficit in b12:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928

Vegans are deficient in taurine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full


Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476

Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

VEGANS BTFO

Jesus this is brutal, what are you doing to these poor kids, they wont even have a chance to recover. Just...fucktheir shit up huh

Calling all vegans - what are some good protein rich meals I can make in under 30 mins? When I get home after a long day the last thing I want to do is cook.

...

also I checked some of these, the synopsis at least is consistent with the title of these research things.

Just fuck. I knew that there were more things than just b12, but you just went over and fucking got even more. Thanks you valiant anti vegan crusader. Into the pastebin for their continuous re-destruction it will go, as they will be coming here for the next few days, weeks maybe even, many times to preach their horrid gospel.

D-Did you just murder vegans?!?

pretty much, the links are all valid, the quick look into them seems to confirm the general title that he has. They are all from the research site. Oh god, there pretty much is no refutation to this. I think in general, what I saw in the threads against vegans we already had a big chunk of the whole lore, but now it seems we didnt compared to him. This does paint a whole picture however. There is no way in hell these fags can recover now. Repost it in their dumb plant eating threads lol. Remove them.

Half of those studies don't even feature the word 'vegan'. One of them is a case study about a 19 y/o diabetic. I don't know who this poster is trying to convince.

macrobiotic is used in a couple of them. Which is a faggy, close form to veganism. It has the whole grains approach, as one should have, but too few meats. Just like the vegeterian faggots also have.

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
no wait, he is lying, most of them are about vegans. Holy kek I am laughing at all of this

>Semen analysis of 66 unmarried medical students in the age group of 17-21 years was carried out. A higher liquefaction time pH, motility, lower sperm count and abnormal forms were observed compared to reported values. Liquefaction time, pH and sperm count was found significantly different in non-vegetarians and vegetarians, perhaps due to difference in their dietary proteins.

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
>This study reports the effect of a vegetarian diet and dexamethasone administration on the hormone status of healthy Caucasian men and premenopausal women. A lower nocturnal release of prolactin and testosterone occurred in men fed a vegetarian diet, while in women, dexamethasone administration decreased the nocturnal release of prolactin and caused a greater decrease of plasma dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA). These results show that diet modification can induce hormonal changes, If similar changes occur in patients with breast and/or prostatic cancer, diet modification may be of benefit in these patients with tumors known to be hormonally dependent.

ITS ALL ABOUT VEGETARIANS AND PLANT FUCKERS JESUS

VEGAN DAMAGE CONTROL INCOMING

also, anyone interested in all of this, but one of the articles is blocked by a paywall, use this to get past it

sci-hub.io/

>A lower nocturnal release of prolactin and testosterone occurred in men fed a vegetarian diet
It is no wonder vegan men are nu-males.

I made a pastebin so we can copy this into these cancerous threads alot easier.

pastebin.com/EuBLcktu

I don't know how to make this searchable tho. Maby another user can help with that?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329 = not about vegans
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478 = not about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604 = not about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278 = not about vegans
m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full = not about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209 = not about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065 = not about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917= not about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441 = not about vegans
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788 = not about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928 = about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987 = about vegans
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700 = case study of 4 vegans


ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
= The proportions of plasma long-chain n-3 fatty acids were not significantly affected by the duration of adherence to a vegetarian or vegan diet

Are people on Veeky Forums actually retarded? That's just from the first post.

Good good user, I also made one as I am usually the only one making these things

here is mine.

pastebin.com/kLtkMM4w Whatever is more whole should be used by both of us, its a shame that its so late though.

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
>The influence of creatine supplementation on the cognitive functioning of vegetarians and omnivores.

>would enhance intelligence test scores and working memory performance in 45 young adult, vegetarian subjects in a double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over design. Creatine supplementation had a significant positive effect (p < 0.0001) on both working

are you literally retarded, you guys are even worse off than vegetarianfaggots.

You probably even have worse problems than they. All these articles are about the effects of only eating plants.

all false/bias studies

rice protein in soy milk shake

>ITS FAKE NEWS

no its not. These are the landmark pieces it seems that set most of the status quo, the status quo that I was learned about. You can also read ALL OF THEM THROUGH SCI HUB.

There is no recovery from this, no damage control. You guys are dead.

What evidence do you have supporting your opinion

i can do the same thing and find 30 ncbi posts that say eating meat is bad too you know, u only listen to the information you want to believe

OK but you didn't. Really makes me think

>26 replies/8 posters
Kek, those cow fuckers are this desperate that now they samefag to try to present an agreeing hivemind to newfriend to indoctrinate them in their decadent ways
Anyway I can spam links too, have at it
Cancer:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22121108
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11743810
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4135519/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18789600
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342103
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15955547
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279082
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18980957
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3081176
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22867847
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422422
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12588089
Diabetes:
abcnews.go.com/Health/Diabetes/wireStory?id=2244647
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386029/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19351712
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481955
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596361
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15983191
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24149445
Heart Disease:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1534437/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
circ.ahajournals.org/content/108/22/2757.full.pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426
1/2

Osteoporosis:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25352269
American Dietetics Association Position on veganism:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
Longest Living Population:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434797
Low Carbohydrate Diets and mortality:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20820038
Plant foods have a complete Amino Acid profile:
circ.ahajournals.org/content/105/25/e197.full
Benefits of a vegan diet:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967195/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4583329/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4844163/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677007/
Vegans & Vegetarians are more empathetic:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2877098/

I won't tell corpse eaters to gtfo my thread. Do stay, please. Your memes and hurt feelings only serve to make my cock harder.

And a bit ms paint for extra triggering for you and hardening for me.

1
Soy/hemp/rice/pea protein
Water or soy/cashew/almond/pea/rice milk
Shake
0.5 min
2
Rinse well can of kidney beans
Add to deep plate
Add on top can of baked beans
1 min, 50 protons
3
Add ground chia seeds to plant milk, fruit and/or sweetener to taste
Stir
Go take a bath, do the laundry, some pushups, jerk off for 30' whatever
You now have chia pudding, enjoy

meat eaters btfo
id rather have 'lack of animal protein' than cancer or heart disease and die wehn im 45

>always worried about what other people think of your diet

I'm sure that sounded funnier in your head

>uses diet to self identify

Stay cucks to the meat and dairy industry. I only lift 3 hours a week, been vegan for 2 years now and i have never felt better in my entire life.

>Implies implicit implications with telepathically acquired information to feel better about self
Give me more

>Steroids and/or you built all your muscle before going vegan and now you're barely maintaining
Did I manage to hit the buzz button first?

Do they get extra butthurt due to them knowing they're genuinely worse people?

>thinks everyone is out to get him/her but actually no one gives a shit

>I only lift 3 hours a week, been vegan for 2 years now
It shows

>they
>genuinely worse people
Now now, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Most people are just unaware. What is bad is going out of your way to shit on vegans without looking into the "why" first, or to have had the facts rubbed in your face for months yet still blindly shitpost as if nothing happened 200 threads ago

This is by he way why there are threads every day. Because you (non vegans) never learn. We are doing this out of good will. Take the time and educate yourselves.

>don't care
Then why post
Post body

This has been another public service announcement, you can believe it or you can doubt it.

I know it does :)

>Post body
Here, you fucking homo
Why are you defending your little vegan fuck buddy? Vegan fags are too weak to fight their own battles, KEK.

Vegan only for health needs. You know how much I would love to suck the tit for a cow for milk or eat some fucking delicious ass steak?

>
It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes
Well all of that is totally false just from this post concerning childrenAlso name one successful vegan athlete that does not use steroids. That's what I thought.

>name one successful vegan athlete that does not use steroids
Name one successful athlete that does not use steroids. You can't, because they're all on roids.

dean karnazes

>Well all of that is totally false just from this post concerning children
Clicked the first link. No mention of "isocaloric", also terribly small sample size, also no followup till adulthood
Trash.
Not clicking on every single shit study, single out and show me one that is good.
Also read again
>An APPROPRIATELY PLANNED vegan diet is etc etc
Not my fault if you eat lettuce and tofu all day

>Not clicking on every single shit study
Typical anti science vegan
>single out and show me one that is good
I'm not your dad, read them yourself

>I have absolutely no idea why veganism is or isn't unhealthy and just shitpost for the sake of it
My dad has high BP and cholesterol and eats meat, whoops

What makes you think he's steroid free?

No 3d delts

Different guy but since you picked this one link out, I'll take the opportunity to show you how this paper is being misrepresented.

>Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency

The paper is about vegetarians and there is no mention of creatine deficiency. The reason the poster assumed it was about creatine deficiency is because they didn't read the study and guessed that this is what it was about because he read

>in vegetarians rather than in those who consume meat, creatine supplementation resulted in better memory

Ignoring that the very next sentence is

>Irrespective of dietary style, the supplementation of creatine decreased the variability in the responses to a choice reaction-time task.

Now here's the full study

pdfs.semanticscholar.org/22dd/5f9ef68e2816e27ab51c91130a8b81d58d5c.pdf

In the study, the vegetarians and meat eaters performed the same on memory tests, but after both groups supplemented creatine, the meat eaters performed worse for some reason while the vegetarians were about the same. There's no way to have not known that's what the paper was saying if you had at least glanced at the full study.

Despite this being pointed out many times, that paper still gets posted in this copypasta. Nearly every link in that post is either misread or hardly related to the claim posted with it. But that's what it takes to BEAT DA VEGANS

Solely eating meat is unheal-instagram.com/shawnbaker1967/

Carnists BTFO LOL!