>"And you hear this a lot from bodybuilders who are like, 'Well, I need chicken or I need fish to be strong, to build muscle tissue.' That is UTTER NONSENSE. The largest, strongest terrestrial animals on the planet are all herbivores. >"The biggest, strongest animals are all herbivores. >"When we bring in people and they're on meaty diets and we transition them to a plant-based diet, we always track what they're eating. Their vitamin intake goes up.Their nutrition overall goes up, dramatically better.
Hmmm, really gets the ol' neurons all fired up, doesn't it Veeky Forums?
Notice that they're all rarely the top of the food chain. How strong is an animal that is preyed on?
Robert Gonzalez
>animal comparisons Cows can be big and strong as fuck and they only eat grass! So humans really just need to do nothing but walk around eating grass all day.
Michael Taylor
Well, if you can digest cellulose then maybe you'll get big as a rhino.
Nicholas Gomez
>People who consumed the most animal protein
You know who consumes a lot of animal protein? People who constantly buy fast food and generally don't give a shit about their diet.
Stop with this correlation = causation bullshit.
Nathaniel Miller
Yes, actually grass satisfies protein needs. Eat legumes and veggies as well and you're set. Humans are not omnivores, we have none of the physiological adaptations that true omnivores do. We have the digestive systems and guts of herbivores.
Listen, I know the truth is hard to digest.
Mason Kelly
Last I checked I'm a human bean not a fucking bison or elephant.
Also those herbivores get eaten by the carnivores so...
Lucas Gutierrez
>we have none of the physiological adaptations that true omnivores do >We have the digestive systems and guts of herbivores. Except the ability to digest meat proves you wrong.
Luke Cox
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Jose Robinson
They aren't (regularly) preyed upon because they're too powerful and dangerous
Nothing fucks with a healthy african bull Elephant. The elephant doesn't fuck with anything else unless they feel it poses a threat to its herd.
Juan Richardson
>Listen, I know the truth is hard to digest. That's why I stick to digesting meat.
Benjamin Thomas
>ability to digest meat I mean, if meat is leading diabetes, cardiac diseases, autoimmune diseases... then can you really say we were meant to digest it or that our body is properly equipped to do so?
Kevin Morgan
Whoa whoa whoa turbo, cows don't need to eat your shitty legumes and veggies. Stop trying to increase net suffering. Grass is sufficient for cows so it's sufficient for us.
Ryan Morris
Except niggers and poachers. Both of which eat meat.
Samuel Wright
We can't break down cellulose, we don't produce the enzyme cellulase. We are not herbivores you fucking dingus.
Bentley Reyes
individuals who consume the most animal protein probably consume the most food in general
no shit they get more diabetes
Isaiah Edwards
No animal produces cellulase, only bacteria do. Humans have cellulose-digesting bacteria in their gut. That's one of the reasons why fiber is healthy.
Eli Sanders
Why do autists always say "animal protein"? As if animals can actually produce protein, lol, are you guys legitimately downs?
Daniel Morris
I'll take Myostatin Deficiencies for 200, Alex.
Aaron Williams
>average westerner lives to 78+, longer life span than ever thanks to modern medicine and less rigorous lifestyles >diet has for most of recent history included meat >average meat eater only develops diabetes, cardiac disease etc late in life >body cant metabolize meat-based food with exactly 0% consequences
really forced me to reconsider that we're omnivores
Nicholas Powell
>rare genetic condition lol
Zachary Reed
because the OP image says "animal protein" and i was using its context to form an argument
Elijah Perry
I eat all types of food, regardless of race >#VegansWillNotDivideUs
Oliver Smith
Lions eat elephants you dumb fuck
Christopher Davis
>another vegan food/entertainment shill thread
Luis King
Not being able to derive meaning from context is actually a sign of autism my friend.
Parker Reyes
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Carter Powell
The only chance a pack of lions have to take down an elephant is if they're able to find an old/sick one on its own, and in that case they still risk serious injury or death. An elephant can fuck a rhino up and lions can hardly deal with a rhino.
Lincoln Morales
Can somebody draw this post like this one?
Justin Mitchell
Correlation does not equal causation. Just because every fat tub of lard is devouring triple patty burgers and keeling over doesn't mean people who eat a nutritionally balanced diet will also suffer the same fate.
Austin Wright
These were studies done with people who ate even minimal meat, like even organic chickens and farm-raised fish.
Joshua Barnes
This includes general population fatties, not a reliable stat for anyone who eats well.
Jackson Ramirez
I don't even care about whatever fallacious argument OP is making, it's just a fact that elephants are way stronger and tougher than lions. They're fucking huge and dangerous.
Even a baby elephant has a good chance of surving a lion attack
This, more investigation needs to be done into the study. There's a difference between the guy that eats grilled chicken on kale for lunch every day and the guy who downs a large #5 combo from Burger King everyday.
David Rogers
>Even a baby elephant has a good chance of surving a lion attack
no, this bitch is toast
Jayden Kelly
Stop derailing my thread, faggots. No one gives a flying fuck about baby elephants. What do you have, a lion fetish or something?
Yeah it's almost like the average person doesn't eat a balanced diet. People who base their diet only on meat or only on vegetables are equally retarded , you should be eating a balanced diet, not 10 pounds of kale or 10 pounds of beef a day , now get the fuck off my board.
Grayson King
Elephants are so intelligent, I love them.
Dylan Green
A balanced diet is built around plant foods primarily and may or may not include small amounts of meat. Most should be able to agree with that.
Carter Mitchell
The audience.
David Roberts
I would agree with that
Nolan Nguyen
Dubs don't lie
Parker Martinez
I'm not making up excuses, I eat meat because it taste good and convenient source of protein.
Bentley Carter
>terrestrial Because oceanic mammals (which are larger/stronger) don't fit this stupid narrative
Colton Miller
I think poutine wins for showing up in this shit thread
Noah Lewis
>only bacteria do I'm sad because you believe this and you probably think you know a good amount about the topic
Mason Evans
If I remember right the termite is the only animal that can produce cellulase and, itself, break down cellulose, although even that might not be true. Herbivores rely on bacteria for a lot of their digestion.
Jaxson Perez
you fucking dipshit. we dont eat meat because its the only thing that contains protein. but because our metabolism csn handel it better than plant protein. cooked meat is the best source of energy and protein we have.
Ayden Robinson
If animals can't produce protein wht do they have DNA >inb4 you don't actually know what DNA is for Public school right?
Jack Campbell
bro you want to know what is hard to digest? grass and legumes. we as humans cant absorb nutrients as good from gras as from cooned meat.
its the truth do some research
Blake Scott
I don't give a fuck about termites They eat wood, which is composed primarily of lignin, cellulose and hemicellulose. Fuck if I know which of the three they digest I was talking about fungi, and to a lesser extent prorozoans but people don't even know what those are
Ian Johnson
Grizzly. What can that stupid monkey do against my huge body? Punch? Just fucking LOL. Meanwhile the bear can just straight up bite the gorillas head right off. GG its over for you gorilla.
Mason Turner
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Alexander Scott
>What can that stupid monkey do against my huge body?
fuck off smokey
Carter Adams
Fair enough, I didn't even think to include those
Noah Rodriguez
>makes nonsenical statement about DNA and its relation to protein production >makes nonsensical statement implying public schools are any worse in terms of education than private institutions Jesus Christ, are you a mental invalid? Jesus, are you retarded?
Hunter Adams
So you do realize the stupidity of the comment I was replying to or? Also I hope you're not from the US, because if so I'm sure your public institutions are very nice
John Gonzalez
I don't have four stomachs and I don't have to regurgitate my food in order to digest it
Adrian Evans
sick of meat eaters going ON and ON and fucking ON about how their diet has the most benefits and least detriments fucking grates
Nathaniel Bailey
>22% more likley to get diabetes
yes, because individuals who eat the MOST animal protein are smashing down the KFC, pizzas, and even things like icecream (gelatin comes from pigs etc).
this statistic is fucking retarded haha
Jose Anderson
they will get theirs.
Camden Foster
>farm-raised fish that shit is literally poison
Nolan Hall
Hey. Actual doctor here.
I don't have nearly enough time to debunk the science they're >implying, but I will point out one important thing that this article avoids: The reason that "individuals who consumed the most animal protein were 22% more likely to develop type 2 diabetes" is because fat people are the ones who eat the most food period, "animal protein" or otherwise. It even explicitly says "compared with those who ate the least"! They're admitting it's because of overeating and then trying to claim it has something to do with "animal protein" in the same breath! They don't even try to hide the lies.
Cooper Price
>organic chickens
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as opposed to "inorganic chickens"?
Eli Clark
>2k17 >not eating plastic chicken it's like you don't even want to make it
Isaiah James
>make a pastebin to btfo veggiefags >start to do more rounding up of the edges >find a research journal to the heart assosiation of america >realize that I nearly literally and unintentionally have been on par with their advice 100%
Gorillas have been to space you dumb bitch motherfucker. They will be a recognized sentient species by the year 2030 and they will fuck humans up good
Logan Brooks
Oh no it's the vegan again! Kill it with fire!
Adrian Williams
Herbivores can digest plant protein efficiently. Humans cannot. We are not fucking cows. Even if plant protein wasn't so poorly bio-available, it still lacks essential vitamins like retinoids and B12, and crucially it lacks arachidonic acid. You aren't putting on much muscle as a vegan without steroids. Even that idiot durianrider is a tiny frail twink on steroids.
Lincoln Sanchez
>Cows have a rumen which help them digest. The rumen has bacteria and microbes which help them in the nutrient extraction process when eating grass. They are known as ruminants. Well, cows have a very different digestive system to humans which can make them digest easier.
there. Now fuck off. We were not made to survive on fucking grass only.
Kevin Adams
Wasn't coconut oil supposed to be healthy?
Easton Phillips
>those who eat the most are more likely to gain a disease gained from eating too much than those who ate less Is there a term for bait-tier statistics?
David Ross
mushrooms are literally made of pre-digested cellulose
mushrooms are also the best gains food
coincidence?
Luis Baker
mostly agree, except for one tiny irrelevant detail
>what are incisors for?
low cholest = high test
Dylan Evans
Remember, those who eat meat are more likely to die from diseases.
This is objective truth, because vegans generally die from various disorders from malnutrition or from doing stupid shit due to brain disorders caused by malnutrition without diseases even having to get involved.
Sebastian James
>mushrooms are also the best gains food What the fuck are you talking about? Chicken has over 20 grams of protein per 100g.
Mushrooms have TWO grams of protein per 100g.
Post your body, retard.
David Harris
>dude, milk causes cancer >dude, you are responsible for pollution caused by cheap meat production even though you buy quality products >dude, same calories, same proteins >dude,you can literally cure everything by going vegan >dude, drinking milk is raycisss >dude all the countries with low HDI have high prevalency of lactose intolerance >dude, this roider went vegan and was amazing at it >dude, these weak and frail old men and doctors are perfect examples of a healthy vegan body
Although i do agree with the horrible state of sanitation in US meat production. If you buy shitty meat, you get what you pay for.
Joseph Rogers
>grizzely bears don't eat meat
Literally is the strongest animal in the world.
Luke Williams
Oh i forgot: >dude, we are not omnivores, we are only capable of digesting meat by pure coincidence >dude, all the strongest animals on the planet are vegans, so sit down and eat half your bodyweight in bushes and grass and move extremely little like they do every day
Jordan Price
Do you understand how amino acids work. Its been a while so I might have the numbers wrong but everything else is right. There are 21 amino acids. In combination they can form a protien. Humans are able to produce like 10 on our own. That means the other 11 have to be obtained through diet. >we can just eat grass all day We literally can't. Grass does not contain all the amino acids that humans require. This is why on vegan diets people have to get a wide variety of protiens because plant based protiens usually miss at least one of our essential amino acids. >compairing us to herbavours This is just stupid. Different species can pull nutrients differently from their food. You know how we are able to creat 10 amino acids on our own and have to eat the other 11. Well gorillas will have far feiwer essential amino acids. Theyd only need maybe 2 that they cannot themself create. A cat would be able to produce hardly any on their own.
It doesnt matter what each animal can do with their diet. It is their diet. Its like feeding a lactose intolerant person milk. It doesnt work
Caleb Lewis
Stronger that the blue what's tail fin?
Stronger than an elephant pulling a tree?
Stronger than the smell of your mom?
Ryan Rodriguez
this is what I call "the vegan fallacy". Comparing a diet where the person 1) pays constant attention to what they're eating, and that 2) contains large amounts of fresh, whole foods to the average American diet, which consists of neither, and then claiming a vegan diet is superior
Zachary Morales
Termites have bacteria that breaks it down for them. Cant do it themselves
James Bailey
mushrooms are also ~90% water, mr shitlord
so 2g / 10g dry means 20% of the solid constituents are high-quality amino acid chains
of course, mushrooms are neither grown in stinking cages of shit, nor fed antibiotics, nor washed with chlorine, bleach, peroxide, arsenic, etc., nor contain any cholesterol, nor basically any fat, and in addition, several extremely powerful polysaccharides (complex carbs) have been named after the mushrooms they were isolated from (grifolan comes from hen-of-the-woods, grifola frondosa)
not a bad deal considering if you want more protein for whatever reason, you simply eat more mushrooms. meat tends to have an acceptable serving limit because the protein benefit vs. fat and cholesterol vs. carbs is self-defeating past a small portion
