>do months of good form bench press >chest still looks bad >do two weeks of pushups >chest start to grow
When did you grow up to realize bench press and most non-calisthenic exercises are literal memes? African starved retards don't lift 300 lbs of rocks and they're ripped as fuck
This thread is a confirmation that bench press is a MEEME EXERCISE, sticky this
Regards,
Oliver Parker
How much were you benching?
Ethan King
Hahahahha
Bench press works for me, frig off, randy
Zachary Green
More than you
Robert Jackson
we can't be both benching ur mom, son
Asher Fisher
What makes you think we can't? Serious question.
William Price
Why are you in every thread. Like just don't use tripcode lmao. Who even are you
Joseph Long
Lifting weights is a meme, do you think the Greek gods had squat racks?
Daniel Reed
>not doing football bar bench press it's like you dont even want to make gains
Christopher Thomas
Lmao why i shouldnt lmao
Lmao its not a tripcode lmao
Lmao i like people to know im dominican
Alexander Price
Well according to studies it has been found that closed chain kinetic exercises(this means exercises where the point that's pushing stays at the same place while you move your body) are superior when it comes to muscle gain compared to open chain. So this means exercises like squats, weighted dips, pull ups and push ups will result in better gains than bench press, rows or leg press. Your experience is not surprising to me at all. A basic push up(assuming you add weight) is far superior to the bench press.
Logan Scott
He's from /pol/ and wishes there were flags here, so he uses the name field to be a flag. It's fucking stupid. I hate that I know things about him. I hate that I recognize him. I hate that he shows up in multiple threads. It makes Veeky Forums feel much smaller. Fuck I hate namefags so much.
Ethan Torres
Always remember what works for you will work for every other person on the planet and there is no deviation from this immutable fact
Or maybe just kys you incredible tard
Lucas Bell
Are you fucking retarded
Brody Peterson
bench 315 for 5 and show me a picture of your small chest and delts
Joshua Bell
Mind citing those studies? This sounds like bro science to me.
Samuel Green
all what is known about ur mom is bro science, thanks to those brave young men that sacrificed themselves to know the truth.
Don't hate broscience
Benjamin Foster
Why bench press with barbell when you can be a dumbbell chest masterrace?
Alexander Collins
This unironically.
The Earth rotation actually works against you if you use a bar for bench press, as it slowly moves the weight is distributed more to one side of the bar than the other, making one of your arms to hold more weight.
With dumbbells this doesn't happen.
Jaxson Gutierrez
i used to do 300 pushups everyday, sets of 15. My chest did not develop at all. I did 1 month of bench and my chest started to develop. Dont know why the opposite happened for you
Camden Gomez
How long is months? Ever think that you were nearing the point of visible results and stopped benching before they hit? Did your diet change when you stopped benching? Did you have adequate rest in between your bench days? Could other leopke see your results or is the body dysmorphia hitting? Bench press should be universally solid for developing chest considering its one of the main compound lifts along with weighted dips.
Gabriel Turner
>current year >not aligning yourself with the rotation of the earth
I always make sure bench is aligned with east west axis to maximize gains.
Had to explain that they should be 6 degrees off to compensate for magnetic pole at new gym. Fucking retards
Logan Watson
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Luis Gonzalez
Maybe sets of 15 was too little, assuming you were able to do 20 sets without getting totally exhausted.
Ian Brown
Not him, but how long should I wait between bench days?
Jack Edwards
i would do normal pushups, then diamond pushups, then wide stance? pushups and just cycle that until i reached 300. I wasn't exhausted but i felt most of the burn in my arms. Maybe i was doing them wrong? Not sure
Dominic Cook
Maybe switch to sets of 25 or more. I'm one of the weirdos that get good results from pushups like OP.
Liam Lee
>normal pushups, then diamond pushups Hit the arms more than the chest >wide stance Hits the whole chest
If you want to hit your chest do wide push ups and dont do the normal/close until you've already hit your chest hard
Kayden Morris
No lie, push ups with isolation (decline, incline, etc) actually made my chest grow with results. I used to max out at bench pressing and I wasn't seeing gains. Now I am. Weird.
Luis Anderson
I'm not the dude you replied to, and I'm not trying to sound like a dick, but you can literally Google this one. "closed chain kinetic exercises better than open". It's confirmed.
William Taylor
Flat barbell bench press is a meme exercise. It's got little to no carryover to RL, whether you're an athlete or an average Jim Gai who helps his buddies move furniture, and it's shit-tier for chest development.
Incline barbell bench, incline dumbbell bench, flat dumbbell (to a lesser extent than the former), chest dips, and cable flyes from varying heights are all great for chest development and better than flat bench.
Isaac Hall
Its about variation. Were you to start with a couple of months of push ups and then switch you would be here starting a thread about how great bench is.
Levi Evans
If you do 300 pushups you definitely need something harder lol.. Basically training for endurance at that point
Brody White
>it took him this long to realise upper body requires variation and volume to grow
Benjamin Lee
Close grip bench and jm press are all flat should be used for
Nolan Foster
whats the best thing you can do on friday night ?
Isaac Johnson
Still wondering how long I should wait between bench days.
Eli Bennett
>do months of good form bench press
Doubt
Owen Bell
>variation
I keep hearing that in general. But how frequently should you switch up your routine?
Lincoln Diaz
Here's what I found with that Google search:
"The biggest advantage of open chain exercises is that they are far better at isolating a muscle... But closed chain exercises are more functional..." - Healthline
"Advantages [of closed chain exercises]: With these types of movements you will be able to lift much heavier weights versus its open-chain nemesis. And by much heavier, I really mean significantly heavier, like upwards to hundreds and hundreds of pounds more." - daimanual (worth noting that this website actually considered barbell bench press a close chained exercise)
"...all movement would appear to be a succession of phases of open, closed or unclassifiable chain activity, especially of the trunk portion of whole body linked system. On the other hand, the entire concept of open and closed chain exercise may be regarded as trivial, useless, misleading and irrelevant!" - ptonthenet
Conclusion: Open vs close-chained kinetic exercises is a loosely-defined crock of bullshit that therapists like to use to make themselves appear smarter. All movements are, in reality, a combination of both, and trying to classify an exercise as one or the other is trivial.
Jose Lopez
It's cause I need attention lol
Caleb Ramirez
For me I do a routine for six weeks, deload, then do something different for six weeks. Sometimes I do different rep ranges, sometimes I add different accessory work. Just do what you can to stay aggressive on your body's adaptation triggers.
Chase Cruz
>Hey bro stop fighting pls
Liam Smith
Progression with bench press is just more weight, but once push-ups become easy you gotta switch to harder variations (diamond push-ups, rings pushup whatever).
Bench is just simpler
Tyler Myers
Every time I bench or do push ups, my left elbow tucks in alot more than my right elbow and the weight falls onto the left side of my body. How do I fix this? I stopped training chest because of this, I don't want lopsided pecs.
Luke Hernandez
*right elbow tucks in more than my left
Landon Fisher
you might have a winged scapula
Brayden Harris
Hmmm. Well, when I benched I didn't realized that working your back is crucial. More crucial than working chest. We neglected back and the price was me having painful shoulders. Now I never work chest. I could, but I think doing push ups would be good enough. I also don't care for huge pecs.
Kevin Ortiz
You might be right, my back looks similar to pic related.
Dominic Murphy
flat bench fucking sucks pushups suck too 2bh
incline DB bench and weighted dips are the only ones worth doing really
James Diaz
>weighted dips
Gabriel Williams
Bench press sucks for chest. If tpu wantis a nice chest then you NEED to isolated the pecs. And machines are better than freeweights when it comes to peck development.
Adrian Ward
>weighted dips This will also result in a popping sternum.
Daniel Peterson
If you have rings available, then try doing wide stanced ring pushups.
Chase Parker
Benchpress never did anything for my chest even though it steadily rose. But weighted dips however made my chest blow up.
Liam Hill
yeah ok benchlet close grip bench falls under the umbrella of flat bench and is a fantastic exercise in its own right, but moderate grip (not retard wide grip with maximal arch powerlifting rule bending) bench is also great
Juan Powell
I dare you to actually cite a study
Grayson Russell
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Leo Clark
my order of preference: dumbbell bench > chest press machine > chest fly machine (seated upright) > barbell bench
Jonathan Collins
>nameFAG
lmao so not only ur are stupid ur also homophobic as hell ok buddy cant wait to poz ur ass :)
Thomas Brooks
Lol This supports my comment of closed kinetic chain exercises being superior. Powerlifters will defend the bench with their dear life but it is a fact that dips and push ups are superior.