GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I DONT UNDERSTAND. WHENEVER A BEGINEER ASKS FOR ADVICE EVERYONE TELLS HIM TO DO FUCKING GLORIOUS SS...

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In all seriousness if you do SL add in accessories immediately.

Dips/curls and 2 separate ab workouts. Cable crunches are a good option for 1 of them.

When I was actually new, I made many threads asking for advice. Always got SS for an answer.

Whenever anyone asks for begineer advice, they get SS. I always see the same shit every day.

But in many other threads, everyone is pissing on SS. And they also piss on PPL, Greyskull, and many other programs, routines, or shit you can think off

>hurr durr strong foundation isn't important in bodybuilding
fucking retard

If you want to grow as big as possible in as little time as possible you literally get to around 1/2/3/4 before you even think about hypertrophy. That doesn't take long with a good strength routine - SS being one of them - which is the reason most of Veeky Forums recommends them. Nobody just ever does them, and if they do they do it half-ass

If you lift for apperance you are wasting your time like nothing else. Women don't give a flying fuck about how you look. In fact, if you're prettier than a girl you're trying to get with, she's gonna be turned off. What matters is money, status and charisma.

The only acceptable reason to lift is to compete in sports.

do you want to be a bro? do bro split.
do you want to be a gymcel? do SS

This is one of the dumbest things I've read of course there are women who will suck an uncharasmatic broke bro just for looking good unless the dude is hanging out with lawyer and doctor bitches all day

*teenage girls

>GLORIOUS SS

SS and do arms assistance

Nobody is interested in old women desu

>he doesn't want to fuck 18-23 year olds

Have fun with your gold digging biological clock driven mess of a woman.

I'm 24. The days of hooking up with teenagers are gone.

That dude has straight up boobs

For you

PPL is and will forever be the best routine for nattys, assuming you workout five days a week. Every six or so months you mix your program up by focusing one or two different muscle groups. You can start by doing PPLPP (which sacrifices legs in favor of upper body strength), and then adjust it down the line so that you can compensate your lack of leg training by doing it two times a week. There is simply no better regime for naturals. SS, SL and GOMAD are a huge meme, as is the weird fetish this board seems to have for deadlifts and squats. I take most people here lift for aesthetics (despite not being honest about it), and these two exercises don't really isolate anything and are VERY easy for a beginner to screw up.

just go on bodybuilding . com and pick a cut or a mass plan its not fucking hard. make sure you are doing plenty of volume

I went straight to PPL and never looked back. Great split.

Am I not supposed to be doing SS?
That's what I've been doing this past month.
SS better not be the fucking recommendation of Veeky Forums equivalent to Final Fantasy XIII in /v/. Still mad at that for that shit.

Been thinking bout trying it for a while. Have been doing a routine I made upfor 2 or 3 weeks now, exercizing 3 days a week.

Peaple liek you is why I made this thread. this board has a fetish for SS, but also likes to rub its hairy unwashed boogie like ballsack on SS´s face. I simply do not fucking understand

honestly when i was starting out and really weak, i did SS for a summer and it took my lifts to respectable levels.
I would recommend adding in one extra lift in there per day, barbell curls or lateral raises

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>he chose SS over legitimate 5x5s

Shiggidty doo, poo in the loo.

Where can I read a good guide on PPL?

I did SS back in the day and was happy with my results. Want to get back into lifting but it's non-ideal at this point.

literally "ppl routine" in google

I fell for the SS my first time around. Eventually you ask yourself: Why am I squatting 3 times a week?

I like squatting 3 times a week

Good for you. It didn't align with my goals so I stopped doing it.

What a beginner should actually do:

1. Google every single question that you can possibly have about fitness because it's all been said a million times before.

2. Form critical conclusions based on findings.

3. Form a plan on how to achieve your fitness goals based on your conclusions.

4. Carry out your plan to reach your fitness goals.

What a beginner actually does:

1. Herpa derpa Veeky Forums I'm a fat weakling that doesn't know what to do, but I want to look like Brad Pitt wat do?

Just tell them Starting Strength and if they actually do it right they'll be in a better position to actually get stronger/aesthetic later on.

get off the board and go lift some weights user.

Am I the only one who defends SS around here?

Retards, do you know what SS stands for? Starting Strength.
STARTING. STRENGTH.

For no reason should a beginner stay on SS for more time than it takes for them to become strong enough for a new routine, and comfortable enough with the basic lifts that they wont fuck up their form when moving forward towards their ACTUAL GOALS.

I did SS for... 2, MAYBE 3 months when I started. It was great, I built a solid foundation and got my form down tight.
Then I moved to a bro split of my own design, and it made me look real good, but my strength didn't progress. I realized that I cared about strength, and that I hadn't hit 1/2/3/4 yet, so I switched to SL 5x5. I will be doing it until I'm as strong as I want to be, which is probably just a little past 1/2/3/4 - and then I'll move back to a more aesthetic routine.

I also add in accessories to SL that I know will help along the way, so long as I have energy to do it all, and I do.

Yeah I did SS for 3 months I guess its good to build a foundation. Kind of felt weird that I had a huge ass and somewhat weak chest though.

>Weak chest
That's your fault imo. Either genetics or not going hard enough.

The T-rex thing never happened to me. My legs did get thicc, and my ass got good too... But all the girls I been with are all about dat ass anyway, so it's just more benefit.

I'm not sure how some silly shit like what happend in this pic is even possible unless you do like a year straight of SS. Even then, I've been doing SL for a long while and I'm still not wack proportions like that. If I had to guess, I'd say his form was bad or something, and he never corrected it, which caused a massive muscle imbalance to develop that he never addressed.

To be fair my chest gains have always been ezpz for me. I hit 2 plate like a month after I started SL after having it as a goal for at least a year or more. I easily kept pushing past that almost up to 2.5 plate.

Recommending SS is a meme.
Shitting on SS is a meme.
Everything on this board is a meme. Get used to it.
And don't forget to do SS.

been doing PPL for 8 weeks and have been seeing great gains for a noob

U must take a trip to this pharmacy as well plus SS duh

I've been lifting for a year and a half, and my maxes are 275 for bench, 195 ohp, 315 squat for 2, and 374 for deads.

Problem is is I don't even squat regularily and do not do deads. And my schedule is really fucked up this year so all I've been doing is getting weaker and losing weight.

Would hopping on SS even on a fucked schedule fix me?

What is read the sticky?

Thoughts on back/bis, chest/tris, shoulders/legs x2 per week? I've been doing it for a while and finally seeing good gains, wondering if ppl would be better

Kek

>not doing ss or training legs that often
>still have large ass/thighs
Hold me bros

What days would you add the accessories?