Honey

>le sugar is bad meme

What's wrong with unrefined natural sugar?

Nothing. These faggots are just trying to get you to fall for memes.

>implying it's a meme

off yourself. sugar is unanimously bad by all health standards.

sugar is fucking nessecery you twat. Eating everything in excess even your beloved protein is bad.

>>>/fat/

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Reminder that this is what happens when you eat too much honey.

Carbs are necessary for optimum performance, sugar (sucrose & fructose) is completely unnecessary

>buy 10 hives
>set them up at my cabin - no civilization or pollution in a 10km radius
>don't even use plastic buckets to get most pure product
>get shit to a lab - they've never seen anything purer
>try to sell it for just 25% more than the sugar shit they sell at supermarkets
>still sitting on 100kg
>hundreds of bee stings
>was besieged by bears for a week during harvest
>i hate honey
>consider paying a hooker to recreate and sell it it as porn to recoup investment
fuck honey

>honey is just a higher calorie version of honey
what did he mean by this?

lol i wish this story was actually real

kek

>unrefined

Honey is processed sugar, processed by bees. There's very little difference in how it's digested between it and table sugar. This is different from fruit, which is unprocessed and contains fiber and antioxidants that help digest the sugar more safely. Honey is not comparible to fruit.

Too sweet for me, not a fan

my dad got sued by his neighbor because he was beekeeping in his backyard lol

it is.
we call bears "medvjed" or "honey-eater" in my language, i always thought that's some cartoon bullshit.
word of warning: it isn't. they can smell that shit for miles.

if they get what they want they're real courteous and just eat it and leave - they even make sure not to damage the combs too much. if they don't get their fix they throw a tantrum and wreck everything. fucking junkies.

86% sugar

i.e. wasted calories

no thank you

forgot pic
also, for some reason it's black.

Try doing something taxing for an extended period of time and tell me that sugar is completely unnecessary.

Hold one in the light please

That's taken with flash, light is broken in my basement. Why, want to buy some? 10e per kilo plus shipping.

Lmao look at this retard

Sugar both improves mental concentration and helps stave off hitting the wall during strenuous physical activity. It's not essential in your diet, but to say that it has no uses or benefits is retarded.

Just never seen black honey

It happen sometimes but the bees had gathered pollen on GMO flowers

jn.nutrition.org/content/132/11/3379.short
online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/109662004322984789
pnas.org/content/110/22/8842
nature.com/articles/srep05726
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031938409000973
hindawi.com/journals/jdr/2014/491571/abs/

it's literally nothing like sugar you fucking fag

It's not ink black obviously. GMOs are banned in my country, also there is nothing but forest as far as the bees can fly.

Out of curiosity where are you from?

medvjed = Bosnia

figured it out never mind

Yep.

>It's not essential in your diet
That's just as retarded as what the shit the other user is saying, your cells literally run on sugars. While your muscles can use byproducts of the breaking of fat, your brain can't use most of them except for ketones, which are emergency only, so the optimal brain is always going to be running on sugar unless you decide to go full keto and eat NO carbs at all (Because yes, ketofags eat sugars too.), which does bring its problems.
With all that aside, hypoglycemia kills and having really low sugar levels for prolongued amounts of time will take its toll, so there's that.

We were discussing dietary monosaccharides.

soughta related to honey I guess but who here drinks mead? I've had it before in the past and now I want start getting my viking mode going

sorry my bad reading skills.. so.. you couldn't sell it even being proven to be quite a quality product?

Odds are you had shit mead as there are very few true makers of it left. If you want to drink true old-fashioned mead, go to Norway or Finland. The shit that they call "honey wine" on the bottle is piss.

Finding buyers is the biggest challenge when it comes to quality food where I'm from. People are simply too poor, if I knew a bunch of upper middle class moms then I could sell it.

I have a cousin who grows fruits - absolutely uses no chemicals/pesticides nor were any ever used on that plot of land, no pollution, high up in the mountains (which decreases yields but means a purer environment,) uses water from own well which is certificed pure, uses manure from own cattle which aren't given anything. It doesn't get more organic than that. He struggles to move strawberries at 2e per kilo. Which is 25% than the heavy metal and pesticide laden stuff they grow next to highways with liberal use of god knows how many chemicals.

that's sad, where i'm from producers of great quality of honey are able to export their products, same goes for high quality fruits.

Although we have buyers, the good money come from exporting, maybe you could try something like this being you're near some rich european contries?

Like, you already proved your way of producing things, I bet some facebook showing of how you produce coupled with certificates and "just" someone who knows where to sell in mainland europe.. yeah.. it doesn't sound that easy =/

Good luck thought mate, if i lived near you i'd buy some!

my flatmate's uncle gave him some raw manuka honey and it was dark as shit too, super tasty though

dang it. I just googled mead here in Aus and its not looking bright. Ah well I guess I can stick to regular piss and get me council worker mode going

In order to export fruit you need a lot of start up capital - permits, inspection fees, taxes, certificates, more permits, cooled storage, transport arrangements. Not worth it unless you have huge quantities. You can export it via intermediaries but they pay you 0.5e and then resell the stuff for 10, 0.5e exactly covers production and picking costs.

That's how I know all the fruit we export is probably shit tier - there is no way you can get decent enough yields to maintain production, let alone make a profit, on such low prices - unless you use every trick (pesticides, herbicides, no quality control) in the book.

Honey is a bit easier due to it's extremely long shell life. I actually sold 10kg to Germany - but if I want to make any kind of money I need a tax number so I can get the VAT refunded via the double taxation avoidance agreement. Might even do that.

I'll buy some user

lol

Where you at mate? How many kilos?

That's not funny, bees get more aggressive the closer you are to the hive. At very short distances they sting everything in sight. Potentially fatal.

I'll take a kilo and I'm in the US

because its basically sugar

I also live in the US and would be interested in buying a kilo

>study on rats fed a diet based on refined wheat starch, fructose syrup, or honey
>honey was better than fructose syrup but worse than refined wheat starch

Wow, honey is healthy

Sorry mates intercontinental shipping is a bit above my head right now. Plus: according to FedEx with tax, permits and shipping that would cost a shit-ton (+200$.)

It's ok user. Another time then

>eating bee puke
Yeah, nah.

If that flows automatically, that's bad ass.

Flow hive is actually incredible, like a magic trick.
Word of warning, it makes one part of the beekeeping process easier. Beekeeping is hard as fucking fuck, a huge time and money investment, and sometimes your beehive just decides to die. You'll still need to do regular maintenance on your hive.
But this definitely helps the extraction process.

Fruit is processed by trees.

>>honey was better than fructose syrup but worse than refined wheat starch
no it wasnt

OP here. Why isn't anyone talking about all of the benefits it has on your overall health? Like eating locally sourced honey helps you not get fucked up if you have allergies.

I remember a study that honey doubles absorption or something to help build muscles. Honey and peanut butter sandwiches are great.

It's produced by trees, it's not processed by them. Fruit is a basic product made by the tree Honey comes from processing pollen.

Did you read it?

jn.nutrition.org/content/132/11/3379/T3.expansion.html

I eat it basically to help subdue my retardedly sensitive allergies, also one of the main reasons I lift. I started this thread to see if anyone else may have benefitted from it but it's lookin like more than half of this thread is full of faggots

yes your point?

You're better off eating white bread than honey, going by that study.

I don't eat flavourful foods

how do you infer that?

By every measure of health being better in the refined wheat starch group.

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kys

I rub my body in honey to purity myself

What do you think that means?

literally the only statistically significant change is the vit e:tg ratio which could be interpreted as beneficial from cells importing more vitamin e from plasma lmfao

There's a connection between lifting and allergies? I actually just got sick this week for the first time in about a year and I was wondering if my improved immune system is due to my healthier diet and more active lifestyle.

So at best, honey is about as good as white bread.

Sugar is the primary fuel the body can use. Your brain RUNS on glucose.

Pollen: formed by meiotic microsporocytes in anther pollen sacs and accessible from the anther after dehiscence.

Honey: nectar collected and stored by bees.

Nectar: discharge on nectary cuticle found after production by the nectarial parenchyma from unloaded phloem sap.

It's no different from taking a piece of fruit after some mexican picks it at a farm and stores it in a truck to dump at the grocery store.

It helps clear my sinuses and obviously my overall performance is inhanced by lifting almost every day. Cardio is great if you have allergies cause it forces your nasal passages to open up so you don't die when you can't breathe through your nose.

Also why I love summer. Heat helps my nose open up and smell the roses or good pussy

I get locally produced honey from my farmers market. I put it in Muesli and Oatmeal.
It's almost orgasmic to taste, it's delicious.