For those of you that doubt the neck's influence on attraction, we did some experiments using comparison images. The website photofeeler.com is a great way of testing photo quality and attractiveness for dating websites.
As we see, the neck really makes a big difference.
These threads should include facial gains & facial aesthethics in general.
Good initiative, btw.
Nolan Ward
How do I train neck then?
Owen Jones
That'll just invite the lookism fags over and ruin everything.
Jason Rogers
Sucking cock 4 sets of 10 reps.
Landon Morgan
Thanks bro. I think we all know about the jaw being critical for the face, but I'm still combing through research (and self-experimenting) how to best develop it. Maybe in a few months I'll have something. Bodyfat percentage is obviously a huge factor. Only other thing I'm looking at is high volume gum chewing.
The other pill I want to drop after doing some more technical research is what I'm calling "The Lens Pill", i.e. how camera photo distortions can absolutely ruin you if you're not careful. Think selfie cam distortions. Pic related.
John Foster
do you make the cut?
Julian Mitchell
...
Luke Gonzalez
barely hitting 15" at 6'1 But I only started working it so I'm sure I'll get there
Tyler Cox
I'm a woman how do I make neck gains
Evan Butler
I get nauseous from letting my neck hang backwards repeatedly, am I a faggot?
Hunter Nguyen
>tfw doing neck exercises RIGHT NOW
Eli Nelson
This is my first time hearing about this. I'm skeptical, but open-minded. Can I hear some counterpoints?
Lucas Stewart
Neck curls right? Same here. How long have you been doing neck exercises?
Liam Fisher
Nice OC, haven't come across that before. Who's this Vertu guy?
However I don't think height is the best correlator -- it's probably width of head (which is often related to height in general).
As a woman, if you want to maximize attractiveness, you don't necessarily want a big neck. Remember, attractiveness is about sexual dimorphism. So unless your neck looks like you just got out of a concentration camp I wouldn't worry about it.
For women, focus on hip/waist ratio by working glutes and losing weight in general. I think chest work can push out your breasts too. Don't cut to too low of a body fat % or you'll lose your assets. Just try not to be fat.
Colton Torres
5'10 with 16"
Almost there
Lincoln Gomez
Same counterpoints to having big muscles in general.
Ryan Jenkins
It's my second day, I'm doing 30 rep sets with a 2kg plate. Now I just shorten the ROM by not letting my neck go back too far. Helps a bit.
Christopher Anderson
That's some nice work you're doing user! Please continue and make a thread if you've found something interesting.... Especially concerning high volume gum chewing
Anthony White
Who's cock you bopping on, mate? Going to bop on me lads cock later on tonight for good neck gains.
Josiah Edwards
I recently started too but I'm doing 3 sets of 100 reps. Hopefully the nausea will go away with more training. Keep it up bro!
Leo Foster
>Who's this Vertu guy? no clue. found it on google images and its from fitmisc
Zachary Allen
5'10 with barely 13.5"
Josiah White
I think it's better to go by head/jaw width rather than height. Once your neck is at or slightly past your jaw (in width) then you've made it.
Sebastian Harris
You too m8, don't forget to make a before pic
Parker Bell
How's your breathing? How's your general physical fitness? I'm curious why some people seem to have this problem.
I think there could be a motion sickness component, such as when you take a bumpy bus ride after not being on a bus for a few months and get a slight headache.
Make sure you stay hydrated too.
Adam Brown
why the fuck does having a bigger neck make you appear smarter and more trustworthy
fucknig women REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nicholas Russell
careful guys here's realistic no surgery how to be more attractive guide: -get chad tier neck -clear up your skin -low bf% that's it. if you still look like shit you lost genetic lottery body/beard/hair/clothes/accessories/other beta cuck things dont matter
Bentley Gutierrez
Neck is the new legs. Never skip neck day.
Isaac Russell
I go to the gym 5x a weekend run with my friends almost every weekend (still DYEL though). I also drink a lot of water, probably around 4 liters a day. I always forget to control my breathing while exercising though, maybe that's it.
Ayden Baker
>no surgery Genuine question: why are Americans so against plastic surgery?
Jordan Hall
*5x a week
Josiah Robinson
Not American but I believe in doing the best with what you got if you were born normal.
Thomas Nelson
>as a woman
As a man, shut the fuck up
James Hernandez
im european i wouldnt do it because i dont have to but i have nothing against it - whatever makes you happy you should first see how your face really looks like without spots/zits/blemishes and lard covering it and then if it sucks - consider surgery
Jaxson Garcia
Hmm alright, best of luck then my dude. Find a breathing rhythm that works. For some people, syncing to music during neck sets can help... Headbangers were the original big neck dudes anyways haha.
Truth.
Jackson Rivera
>played football in highschool >Will never be a necklet again feelsgoodman
Eli Myers
it's the halo effect
Joshua Collins
>5'11 >17.5" better than average
Angel Jones
Whar rep range should I use for neck curls?
Austin Lewis
Nice mini-guide. I'd also throw in shoulder work for the body, I mean eventually you want to meet and fuck in person right, and that necessarily involves your body.
For men, shoulder-to-hip ratio is pretty key.
Also regarding clear skin - for online dating at least, you can just photoshop that to be better for the first impression. Model photos are photoshopped as fuck anyways so I don't think that's a big deal. People anchor very heavily to their first impressions.
Ryder Reyes
hypertrophy range 8-12
Brayden Johnson
Guys we need to keep this a secret before normies catch on
Brody Cox
WRONG, you need HIGH REPS and VOLUME for neck. At only a dozen reps, the weight you'll need is going to be extreme.
Can you generate neck gains with squats/deadlifts/shrugs, or do you have to do dedicated neck exercises?
Josiah Jackson
>Seriously go for sets of up to 100. ISHYGDDT
Justin Thomas
We need to end this meme of compound movements being enough to build up other muscles that aren't worked directly in a proportional manner.
Just doing presses won't give you the best triceps possible.
Just doing pullups and rows won't give you the best biceps possible.
Just doing deadlifts won't give you the best traps and neck possible.
I followed this stupid meme for years when I was a novice lifter, and I didn't achieve the body I wanted. When I started putting in isolation work... wow it's like the muscles I focused on started developing faster than when I didn't focus on them!
That being said you should/need to start from a reasonable base of strength (e.g. 6-12 month linear progression compound lifts). But after that... decide what your goals are and do whatever is the most effective to reach them. We're not all training to become powerlifters. And of course try things for yourself to see what works.
Ayden Young
OK so I already neck curl a 45 plate for 100+ reps. Tell me what weight I should be putting on my head to achieve any reasonable growth in the 8-12 rep range...
I actually think it's much safer to do higher rep neck work, otherwise you put yourself in a position that's much more dangerous.
Isaiah Price
>6'5 >not on the list 17.5" neck, so a bit below passing
Luis Garcia
What other muscles do you train(and expect to grow) with 100+ reps?
Justin Young
if ur gym dont have a neck machine get one of these. better than resting plates on your forehead like a walllicker
>implying this is any more normal to do in a commercial gym
Nathan Turner
>implying implications that werent implied
Gavin Bell
So will I see gainz if I do 3x100 neck curls/neck extensions/side curls each day?
Bentley Evans
My neck's been getting bigger since getting a motorcycle. Not letting the wind snap your neck while looking behind you does wonders over time.
Jose Lopez
>tfw big lenny was right all along
Joseph Powell
neck curls are ok but what all you necklets really need to look into is neck bridging. aka wrestlers bridge.
have you looking more chad-like in no time. just do them safely.
Mason Fisher
i got 1.57 ratio and dont even lift
Leo Sanchez
I honestly can't tell if everyone here is meme'ing or serious - I've never seen Veeky Forums so agreeable and positive about something like this.
Eli Jenkins
too scared
i'll paralyze myself lmao
Aaron Sanders
fuck you OP, neck theory flew under the radar for so long. we were living in a sea of pencil necks, now every dork who manages to stumble on Veeky Forums is going to train a thick slayer neck.
stop letting the normies in on looksmaxing. you've ruined neck theory, but do NOT let the plebs know about the carotene pill or skull theory.
Grayson Jenkins
>skull theory >carotene pill pls user help me
Samuel Evans
if you supplement a shitload of beta carotene it improves your skin tone
Austin Smith
Eat carrots or take beta carotene for a natural tan no sun required. Gives you that dark handsome look along with better, clearer skin. No idea about skull theory maybe user is a phrenologist
Noah Walker
How many carrots a day?
Ian Sanchez
It's because this is literally "one weird trick to make you look RIPPED", and it works, so obviously there's nothing to argue about.
Caleb Young
>not having any ass
Ryder Jenkins
skull theory = big, robust skulls are masculine
Blake Morris
the fucked thing is neck theory is real kek
Henry Peterson
I'm no nutritionist user so you should research that for yourself
As for me: >be in high school years ago >read some shit about carrots being good for the skin >take the carrot pill >eat fuck tons a day >slowly turn orange over the course of some months >stop eating carrots because scared of becoming permanently orange >skin gains disappear >10/10 would recommend
Jackson Young
that just looks like manlet vs. non-manlet. Obviously a smaller guy has a smaller head.
Josiah Hernandez
5 carrots a day or supplement with 30mg of beta carotene. it's not a "tan" technically, what you're going for is a carotene "glow" which is attractive regardless of skin tone. this is what makes carotene theory so powerful.
Parker Miller
m8 you are in serious need of a heavy dosage of the skull pill
Josiah White
shit I think I just got skull-pilled
Ryder King
And that's why I'm skeptical - at no point in life does the "just one thing for massive improvement" ever work, hard for me to believe this.
Ayden Collins
I have 40 inch glutes this isn't fair my guy. I thought it was shoulder to waist anyway.
Mason Jenkins
Obama would be the most attractive president if he just swallowed the /neckpill/
Nicholas Walker
>t. glutelet take the Glute Pill now
Evan Young
it's a big misconecption, hips are way more important than waist, narrow hips are fucking everything, you can be bf and still have an amazing vtaper especially from the back
Carter Roberts
If I close my eyes for the whole time, I tend to get less to no nausea. Hope this helps.
Christopher Rivera
high bf*
Caleb Thompson
so i fell for the SS meme? I've only been lifting for 6 months so I can still correct it I hope.
Carter Reyes
Good way to destroy your spine, but sure go for it.
Colton Turner
Post your neck routines 3x50 neck curls with one 45lb plate.
Might add side/back curls, not sure.
kekd
Brody Flores
>dem traps they dont even look like they belong in his body proportionally speaking
Ian Evans
Roids
Camden Rogers
Foot ball players all have ridiculous necks. I think all you have to do is put 5 lbs of weight on your head for 2 hours a day.
David Phillips
the guy in the pic you posted trains his neck
Samuel Walker
you know that most football players are on the juice, right?
Bentley Allen
but F1/Indycar drivers are not and they are usually short skinny dudes (the lighter/smaller you are the better). they just train their necks directly plus fighting the g-forces in high speed corners (unless they are pussies like vettel that rest their heads on the side of the cockpit and have pancil virgin necks)
Easton Morales
forgot the pic
Josiah Jackson
back in the day, how many of you guys thought that picrel was jacked? or at least well built? when in fact he is a DYEL but his neck gives you the vibe that you don't fuck around with those type of guys
Nathan Thomas
Holy fuck. That's it man this is legit shit
Gavin Scott
50-85mm for is ideal for headshots
Jeremiah Diaz
Is it okay to train neck everyday
Ian Howard
best neck workout exercises and how many sets/reps? I think I just got neck-pilled, only have a 15" neck at 5'10"...how often do you guys train your necks?
Michael Reyes
3 times a week and i grew one half inch in two weeks, one inch in a month
Logan Martinez
What is the perfect neck routine?
Jayden Rivera
16" neck at 6'1"
I have a slender frame though so it actually fits me
Jaxson Carter
Search for alphadestiny's neck training videos. They're a good start. Just don't do wrestler bridges as a beginner.