/fraud/ steroids general

Thanks for your input.
At what dosage roughly do you experience diminishing returns with orals?
How long until you drop them? I've read anything from 3 to 8 weeks for a-drol, others running their oral for the whole cycle.
Liver support necessary or big meme?

forgot picture

I have and I do not know why it happens. I have done 5 cycles, and only in my 5th it happened.

It is some sort of PIP but with an actual lump in my butt, and it hurts.

I forgot the dose and duration of my tbol, around 6 weeks I believe.

For Var I went up to 80mg, really brought a great look. Made decent gains from it.

Either 20-30mg of dbol or 25-50mg of adrol, for 4-5 weeks before test e kicks in.

why is var so expensive lads

Thanks my dudes.

Good things cost good money?

funny (not funny really) thing is that i've been crying in previous /fraud/ thread about same issue with my glute. First time i had weird feeling in my right glute for over a week, literally next pin in left glute ended in long lasting pip and here we go again with glute pip.

This happened to me, i just started my first cycle and happened on my first 2 injections, maybe injected too fast? Idk

If you take only 2 weeks off in between you might as well not go off at all.. it would already take like 2 weeks before the steroids are metabolized completely (depending on esters).

Is winny the best for vertical jump, sprinting, and general speed?
is halotestin better for that?

Of course, this wouldn't be completely cycling off. I think the point wasn't to get the steroids out of the body, but to restart natural production so it isn't shut down for too long.

Rate my cycle

Testosterone Enanthate 300mgl ( Test E300)

Pct:
toremifene citrate (20mg each pill x 20 just in case)
Arimidex: 1mg x 20 pills

m8 u retard?

where's the cycle?

Bad reaction to oil

my first cycle was test e+var and i loved the var, strength gains were on point and decent mass too.
i'd go for test e. instead of d-bol because on me, it gave me terrible acne on my shoulders and back, and they were on my shoulders for at least two months

same as me you've got shitty roids, that means they used too many solvents on it, so the pin stay sore for longer untill the excess of solvents are absorbed, it was literally a pain in the ass

And that is why you always buy pharma roids, so that you don't have to deal with roids made out of garbage materials.

the ester have some cristals because of the solvents, and the boiling point of those cristals on esters that lasts longer are lot higher than the body temperature, so the more solvent your steroids has, the longer it will hurt.
>for example propionates has a boiling point of 20-40cº and enanthates are about 60-80cº, thats why it hurts for so long)

yeah, but its not always that i can buy pharma roids, and the pain isn't that bad either

What cycle should I choose?

2 weeks Androl
3 month 300 Tren E
3 month 150 Test E

or

2 weeks androl
2 months 400 Tren E
2 months 200 Test E

Kek my b

What will you take for pct?

Also are you seasoned? What cycle number is this?

Probably just Nolva, 2nd cycle. got the tren e given to me for free, or I would have gone ace.

Tren E is fine, go with 300mg to start.

Is halotestin the absolute madman of juice?
does anybody here have experience with it

>Update

50mg androl

A-drol destroyed my skin
S-drol gave me good size gains
Proviron was hardly noticeable

Maybe I need a new dealer

>250 mg/wk of a certain source's gear
>1200 ng/dL
>150 mg/wk of that same source's gear (different vial)
>600 ng/dL
>had to change sources because first one vanished
>150 mg/wk
>1300 ng/dL

Well, we know this one doesn't underdose, I guess.

Considering Var as my finisher coming November for an event.
Good choice or are there better orals that bring out the best physique?

Good riddance I suppose.

Why is test so cheap then?

Because test is just the foundation for all the greater steroids.
Not saying test on its own is bad but it the end just test alone isn't going to cut it.

>but in the end just test alone isnt going to cut it

dyel mindset

Moosey, I like you, but you aren't even a halfway close to the end where test isnt going to cut it.

are u guys just pathetic?

what kind of goals do you have where getting called out for roids in public isnt enough for you.

Unless you want to look like masT, Test is everything you will ever need. It gives you insane gains and spáres your muscle no matter how hard you cut.

i agree with moosey tho. If you cant achieve goal bod with test alone you shouldnt roid.

Unironically MasT is my goal.

I give zero shits about the public opinion regarding this and just want to pursue something that is giving me happiness and something to work for since a long long time.

What if goal body is 300lbs and lean?

I'm really struggling to find any sources of test U. I'm flying to NZ for two weeks in November, how fucked will I be if I just pin a gram of test E the day before I leave?

I don't tend to suffer from oestrogen sides, but I've got no idea what fluctuating my hormones like that will do.

You'll run really low going two weeks without.
Which will not be fun.

Is nolva 40/40/40/40/40 sufficient after 8 months of test? Also have clomid on the way

oh well thats a different story then.

You gotta know tho, masT mainly ran test, with some mast alongside.

nothing srs

I'm aware, MasT also has been lifting for a solid amount of years and has some pretty good genetics on his side to reach that physique on low doses.

Maybe I was a bit harsh on just Test alone. Its fine, its great, but for me it never gives the quick result I'm after in this moment.
I'll be sticking to a trt dose coming December to see if I've got what it takes to maintain the physique I have at that point.

you should seriously run hcg for like 2-3 weeks, 500 UI e3D

8 months is alot
have fun with clomid making you blind

Does anyone else use Kratom regularly while on Tren to combat the mood effects, etc?

2 weeks off a 16 week cycle isn't going to do shit
bill roberts has a program of where you blast short acting roids for 2 weeks every 12-16 weeks, that makes so much more sense than what you are saying. in fact i think you misinterpreted what DC training is saying, you retard. if you honestly believe you can restart natural production in 2 weeks to make it anywhere worthwhile to even come off its clear youve been reading too much and have no experience

there is a point on online steroid boards where you will literally make yourself dumber if you continue to read them

anyways i have never seen DC reccomend the thing you are saying, i dont think you read it correctly.

thats a really horrible idea, user.

guys, ive been taking 3.5mg LDN every night for the past week and im on tren and test, my balls have gotten bigger. it seems the LH promoting nature of naltrexone actually works, i didnt think it would considering the only info is anecdotal stuff on forums from 2008

poor man's HCG i guess.

what dose of gear were you on in these photos?

This image reminds me of this trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=pFzFMsfb9Q0

Why do they sell so many meme test blends but no one seems to sell straight test u? I got a vial of sustanon recently but did the calculation earlier and it's WORSE than test e.

Go with the deca ester or heptylate if available.

you sound wholly incapable of taking care of yourself while cycling if you cant get the right gear for the job. instead of blaming sources for not stocking what you want maybe do your own legwork and deal with your shit. you sound like a typical fuckin millenial blaming everyone else for their stupidity

and also, you looked up the constituents of sustanon, AFTER you bought it, and are blaming sources? blame yourself and enjoy your fucked up hormones on your stupid ass vacation lol

Where does he blame the source for his sust vial?
How is he blaming his sources for his problem?

He's just looking for a solution to a problem.
He's trying to find a fix, millenials just yell and blame but never find a solution.

yeah, im having a bit of a meltdown rn

Anyone had much experience of cycling whilst keto?

How do I deal with backne?
Fuck me my back looks like shit

>Ranting like a fucking lunatic because I asked a question
>Implying sust, tri-tren etc aren't fucking retarded
>Implying I'm blaming anyone
>Implying I've started this cycle yet

Maybe drop the dose mate.

kill urself and hope for better genetics

This is Veeky Forums my dude

Looks like my best option is a meme blend of:
120 test e
120 test c
160 test d

I'll swap that in for test e a couple of pins in advance and then do a double dose the day before I leave. Not planning on fucking or making any gains while I'm out there, just want to cruise without low test symptoms.

Before steroids...

After steroids...

Do you think it was worth it?

Yes, glasses suck

How did that guy fuck up his bike race during Icarus so much?

Hopefully your arms are as large as your calves or you'd look ridiculous

Redpill me on sustanon 250, /fraud/

After steroids...

Do you think it was worth it?

worst of all worlds

What do you mean? If arms are bigger they'd look ridiculous? Let me go measure my calves.

Sounds like bullshit man. Hormones do not work that quickly. Two weeks would do literally nothing

good shit

Nice genes, great insertions

Height?

>Also 2-3 bumps a day of cocaine isn't responsible you fucking mong, and I'm saying this as a former cokehead. If you want to complete the Zyzz transformation and have a heart attack (blood pressure raised from roids + vasoconstriction, bp rise & increased heart rate from cocaine) by all means continue.

>Cocaine will make you feel dead inside before long and kill a part of you you will never be able to get back, believe me.

Grieve if you're around can you elaborate that last part? T bh I haven't used coke for too long (probably 14 days in total) so maybe I haven't been using it long enough to see the negative mental/spiritual effects manifest.

Everything you mentioned about the physical effects (vasoconstriction, bp rise, increased heart rate) about cocaine is true and I've experienced it. And it makes sense why I should probably hide my stash from myself until I'm off blast at least. But I'm wondering about that second part now because that sounds pretty ominous and would prevent me from dipping back into it on cruise.

I literally don't know anyone except my dealer and a few girls who do it who does coke, and I don't know very much about their lives. Is it just something about how you look at the world that changes if you're into the "coke scene" or is it more about physical brain chemistry things? For me I feel like the 2-3 bumps are fairly harmless like each bump is a substitute for a cup of coffee. I never do it PWO.

Maybe all this rationalizing I'm trying to do is a conscious fiending.

Well on the bright side your post has got me concerned enough that I'm just going to hold off on doing any more today and will certainly not be doing it daily. I still want to binge on the odd weekend with this one girl though, FUG it's so fun.

3 questions guys..

What's much the best cycle for atheltic performance, I'm talking everything... Cardio, strength, endurance (excluding HGH)?

Average HGH costs? Not talking sauce but I'm seeing 120-170 for 100ui's from my sources (without water)?

Any top brands to look out for and underdosed labs to steer clear from? (Can you name at least 5 of each please)

You don't have to be a prick about it. Here ya go, read up and tell me what you think.

dropbox.com/sh/3t1dojhwbcxwjjk/AAAT2zZIXu119gXv17V_axF2a?dl=0&preview=Doggcrapp Blasting and Cruising.pdf

test+eq

no source talk faggot

>implying you wouldnt

>120-170 for 100ui
that is stupidly cheap. might be fake

*subconscious fiending

Oh and as a follow up, is there any level of coke use you WOULD consider to be responsible? I can appreciate that maybe on blast there is no such level but generally then

Is there anything wrong with pre-loading syringes with test? I'm drawing with a 25g so it takes fucking forever and I just want to do it the night before since I'm so shakey the day of the actual injection, Just one less thing to worry about. Of course, I don't even open up or attach the sterile needed until I'm ready to shoot.

No nothing wrong but it's weird that your reason for doing so is "I'm too shakey the day of" - are you shakey with your hand holding the needle while you're pinning too?

That movie was so dumb

>smartest man in the world
>doesnt lock his door when secretly injecting super serum

>2 people ask me what supplements I take
I need to stop taking adrol at work

"I take cell-tech and testosterone boosters."

shoulder PIP is nothing. I love pinning delts.

rate my cycle brahs:
50mg test e:eod
50mg mast prop:eod
100mg npp:ed
4iu saizen:ed
10iu humalog:pw

other
tb500
bpc-157
cialis