/fraud/

How much better is
Dbol + Test E
than just
Test E

How do I make real gains without fucking up my 19 year old HPTA? I ain't tryna wait until I'm 21.
>inb4 learn how to diet and lift first

It's decently better. Dbol is going really kick start your strength; it will increase your lifts by a ton of weight in just 4-5 weeks. And it will of course also add some extra muscle mass. The extra cost is quite negligible. Worth it if you ask me.

Way better if you like having tits

Lift and diet

>Way better if you like having tits

Depends entirely on your AI and genetics. I can use 75mg of dbol without any sides and get great results from it.

If he uses 25mg a day for and an AI, it shouldn't give him gyno.

m e t h y l e s t r a d i o l

Steroids that aren't meme or shit
>test (duh)
>anavar
>primobolan
>deca
>eq
nothing else is worth using

>mast
>trest
>DHB
>NPP

????

>>mast
shit
>>trest
meme
>>DHB
meme
>>NPP
gotta give you this one

What are your thoughts on peptides? I've personally never bothered with them, as I don't like injecting everyday.

masT seems pretty fuking big and he swears on masT.

are you calling him indirectly a dyel liar?

Mast is good brah, no crazy gains, but it will harden your muscles and lean you out at 500mg and up. Also one of the best feel-good tons.

^rons

masT is big because of dedication and genetics, nothing else

just take a fucking diarutic or drink more water

>tren
>not worth using

Friendly reminder Gatekeepers saying you need to spend 3 or more years as a natty are just trying to cope with all the potential gains the lost if they roided from day 1 and kept studying the topic.

i was half shitposting anyway.

im a big believer that certain people just respond better to certain steroids.

i could be dead wrong but idk.

Maybe. Put whatever you want in your body but I wouldn't have geared up day 1.

benzos lol but seriously I had to up my lexapro dose on tren and haven't run it since that cycle. Sometimes the sides just aren't worth it.
IIRC last cbt you posted 1g of tren is not warranted... but I could be thinking of someone else....but who tf actually needs/wants to run a 1g of tren

Making a life time health choices based on something you may or may not enjoy after a few weeks. Sort of like when I bought a $600 remote control car and got bored after an afternoon, except it didn't castrate me.

I also believe this, whether it be nature of your diet, training style or genetics some drugs just seem to work better for some people.

>Making a life time health choices
PCT and proper damage mitigation.
Only issue I see is people potentially wasting hundreds of dollars

I think I have an allergy to grapeseed oil because the injection site is still red and lumpy after 1.5 weeks. How do I fix this? Please help

Allegedly LGD3303 increases women's horniness.

PT141 is supposedly female Viagra.

20mg dbol fucks me up with sides.

100mg adrol no sides at any point

Trest and DHB may be memes but they work and aren't shit. The Chinese meme supplier is pushing out trest E now, they also have had DHB for a while. Expect at least trest to start becoming more popular.

>Anavar not shit
Kek

>Anadrol
>Superdrol
>Mtren
>Primo

You're living proof buddy

I'm gonna throw in a letter tren ace with my test only cycle. Nothing major, a buddy of mine reports good results with 25mg ed

Question: I am deathly afraid of tren cough. What are some things I can do to avoid it?

Stay on until you die

First off, good call on the 25mg then eod. You're gonna get a lot of hate and ppl saying it's too low and a waste. It's not though. I've been microdosing gear for a while and the doses you hear about ppl doing online are way to high for the recreational bodybuilder. Everyone's body is different. Good luck to you. And quit being a pussy about then cough. I've pinned tren over a 100 times and the most I ever felt was a tickle in my lungs. Just make sure you know how to do IM injections properly and that's the best you can do.

>tren, npp, mast, and anadrol aren't worth using

These are the people we get advice from

You've got an infection or an abscess, go see a doctor instead of asking Veeky Forums

Unless you actually nick a blood vessel, the cough is probably not gonna happen at that dose unless you're just super unlucky with side effects

Thanks friend

Never got tren cough before. Not much you can do to stop it though other than ensure you aspirate but even then you can still nick a vein.

One tip I've heard is if you lubricate the needle by allowing a drop of compound to run down it, don't.

hey whats good yall
do any of you think i could pass as natty?
(pic related)

I only get cough on Ace not on E but E has it's own problems for a 1st timer
agreed, if your gear is good quality 25mg eod should give nice results with like no sides.

/fraud/s, how much does it cost per month to be a cheater?

t. probably future /fraud/

To start out, depending on ancillaries, ballpark $100/month.

Literally less than you spend on protein powder and preworkout.

>start sustanon 500 cycle 12 days ago
>raging boners every morning
>sex drive is literally non-existent

What gives? I thought I'd be fucking land whales and boi pussy by this point.

wtf I thought it was supposed to be expensive, they lied to me. how soon is too soon to be a fraud

>Phillippians 4:13

Heaven help people who put basically any bible verse on their body but let alone the boy band verses.

meant for

>I can do all this through him who gives me strength

when you goin crusadin' senpai?

Whenever Europe decides to wise up I'll be on the first plane over.

I'm not going to go full Brevik because that's just makes you a poster boy for ridicule.

so never

That's assuming you're only running moderate doses of test and an ai. If you're banging grams of tren and hgh every day it adds up pretty quick, but your first few cycles will be pretty cheap.

I have faith. It took 400 years, the loss of Iberia, Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem, killing of Christian Pilgrims and a letter from the Byzantine Emperor to start the first Crusade.

Things will get much worse before they get better.

Time will tell, but hopefully they get their thumbs out of their asses sooner rather than later

stocking up for my first cycle (12 weeks test e), should I get a dopamine agonist?

Does that mean muslims are Crusaders for allah?

The Jewish seizing of Israel is a modern attrocity and I'm in awe people condemn Muslims for cruelty when this is literally a worse, more cruel, 21st century version of the Natives' treatment by European settlers. The Muslims were forcefully evicted from their farms, jobs, land, houses, etc. and their "rebellion" was the killing of a bus driver with sticks and stones. The retaltiation by the Jews was a killing of thousands of Muslims while the deathcount for Jewish Israelites is predicted as low as in the 90's. Furthermore, a large portion of the Muslims were against the violence and sided with the UN/Jews due to the fact that Muslims technically initiated conflict (even though it was entirely justified from any rational POV).

You have selective view of history and modern politics. If youre going to view history, view it in full. Look at the fact that there have close to no Muslim leaders that have just pillaged and killed throughout history. Even those like Timurlane are commonly acknowledged to have only been "Muslim" for political leverage. Even the development of the Taliban and what became ISIS was never of Muslim origin. The mujahideen were CIA forces brought into Afghanistan to combat communist forces. In fact, they publically tortured and castrated the president Najibullah and renounced his Islamic country of Afghanistan because it was "anti-Islamic" due to it being a democratic party that celebrated equality between genders, brought schools, boosted the econony, brought peace between the US and then USSR, etc. Im sure you believe the nonsense statistics that like 80% of Muslims agree with terrorism or whatever the moronic number was. If you think Muslim politics are anything but a farce driven by media and ulterior agenda, I dont know what to say to you. I won't deny there are actual pieces of garbage, but I think the current pool of information is so muddled with nonsense that there is no way to discern legitmate information and propaganda.

no.

what have you stocked up/planning on so far?

“Him” must refer to Mr Turinabol.

>Jews were shitty

Okay

>not real Islam, Muslims dindu nuffin

Yeah, nah

Can't crusade for a false god.

>10th grader who wikipedia'd "20th century" and supports Bernie

so far it looks like this (just what I've got, the more I read up on cycling, the more mixed info I get)

week 1-12 250mg test e monday & thursday and 12.5mg aromasin daily
week 14-16 ???
week 16-17 20mg nolva ed
week 18-19 10mg nolva ed

What is turinabol?

Low dose long cycle vs high dose short cycle?

For health and (maintaing)gains. Don't care about HPTA suppression.

I do TRT in between, have been doing very low dose long cycles and happy, just curious if the grass is greener.

Heaviest cycle 250mg test cyp 300mg NPP 16 weeks gained 25+lbs kept about 18. Lipids barely changed and no significant cardiac hypertrophy

anyone got anything to add to this? criticisms?

Who cares about a 3 inch clit and a mustache if she's riding you 24/7

Honestly been tempted to do this to a girl, especially when on tren horniness. Then I remember I hate body hair and deep voices

>eq
>worth using

I mean, if using a gram/week for 18 weeks just to look a little dry sounds appealing, be my guest

>No tren
>No npp

Pls be bait

Yeah, do it for 20 weeks instead of 16. Also do E3D/72 hours apart instead of twice a week. So in a 2 week period, 5 injections. At 250mg per pin that's averging 625mg/week. Much better.

Currently on the eq bandwagon for the first time. Running 200mg test E and 400mg eq E3D. Going for 24 weeks. Thoughts? What compound (and amount) would be better than running that dose of eq?

what happens from week 12 to 14?
aromasin won't be needed daily. unless you meant with pin days.
not sure about the nolva. 2 weeks at 20 and 2 weeks at 10. i was under the impression that 20 for 4 weeks was ideal.

might consider making your cycle 15 weeks, unless you don't mind not using your full test vials.

>Also do E3D/72 hours apart instead of twice a week. So in a 2 week period, 5 injections. At 250mg per pin that's averging 625mg/week.
it's every 3.5 days. so monday morning, thursday night.

that's a lot of eq for a long time.

Shoo shoo sarm shill

Didn't seem necessary to run a pct yet due to the long half life test e has, should I begin the pct the day after the last pin? This is where I read mixed results

did you seriously use steroids without reading about the after effects?

you deserve your tiny nuts and fucked up sperm

High dose long cycle is the only acceptable answer.

In my opinion the only 3 compounds you'll ever need are test, nandrolone (preferably NPP) and tren.

I've done amazingly efficient bulk and cut cycles with only test and NPP.

12 weeks of 350 test cyp/450 NPP should turn you into a freak. Unless training or nutrition is subpar, or you're already a freak (like competitive at regional/state level)

Thanks fraud, I knew you'd tell me what I wanted to hear

Go big or go home with a heart attack, amirite

How manageable is scar tissue buildup over a lifetime of trt? Injecting my quads is like pushing stringcheese through a cork at this point even with deeptissue etc.

Shoulders and chest.

Just stick with 1"

If you're already getting deep tissue I dunno what else to say

How many years?
why not TRT subQ?

(dont know the answer just wondering how far future is)

Tren should be in there otherwise spot on.

What is this image about

Lubricating the needle coats it in the acetate ester that causes the tren cough. Most bodybuilders are dumb, so i get why tren cough is so prevalent. I never have tren cough.
> draw
> change pin
> inject
> aspirate
> if you draw blood, pull out, re-pin and pin into a different site, if no blood just slowly inject. Take at least 30 seconds to slowly pin.
> ????
> profit

don't worry
i've just wrapped up my first cycle, pct and all, and balls are back to normal, and i feel normal too

i gave my friend some home brew just to try and now he wants more and he told people and now i have to cut all contact off and move away because everyone knows i have sterons now

never tell ppl u use gear it only turns out bad for you

im scared of police coming for me now

I have like 24 250mg ampoules of Pharma Test-E. Do you guys think people in the internet would be interested in buying them from me?

break his legs

i thought weeks 14-16 with the ??? is for that time?
inject for 12-15 weeks, wait 2 weeks, begin pct. where is the confusion?

If it's warm, tender, and red it is likely an infection. You need antibiotics from a physician immediately, this is time sensitive do not delay another day. You don't have to go to an er but definitely see a doc today. If you leave the infection (abscess) it can eat through your muscle and tissue and leave permanent disfigurement and disability. Some infections are extremely voracious and will necrotize (kill and consume) your tissue in a matter of days. If you need motivation, look up MRSA abscess pics.

Post the studies let's take a look and see if they're applicable to our situation and if they're well done. A case study of 10 bodybuilders who spent multiple decades on continuous blast of 19nor and other high potency anabolics are not a good comparison to a person doing two or three 500mg test cycles.

Is 8 weeks enough to get visible results from recomping or i should stick with bulking and cut later (still on gear)?

> Jews were mean to Palestinians so let's run over a bunch of 5 year olds in France, Spain, UK, etc. Basically any country dumb enough to let us in we should just murder random children as a form of protest or something. It's OK though because this book clearly states that those kids are sub human because they worship a different God.
I don't see how anyone could disagree with you, frankly.

there is a big difference between the liberation struggle of palestine against the fucking zionist kikes and ISIS cutting off heads of captured aid workers and establishing a child goat sex caliphate in parts of iraq

i dont even consider palestinian muslims on the same level as arab muslims, they are in the persian muslim-bro category.

hamas even condmened the latest isis attack

isis is basically a jewish product anyways

Bulk and cut is always better. You won't significantly gain without calorie surplus and won't lose significant fat without calorie defeceit. This is a fundamental rule of the body, juice may give you more wiggle room but AAS do not change how the body works, they just make it more efficient

Hamas are scum bags though that behead people in the streets, they fire sugar rockets from the border and aim it at residential area knowing it'll do nothing in the grand scheme of things but hoping they can kill some people, like hit a school or something.

They fire it from border towns and then escape by hiding among the general population so retaliation against them hits civilians as well.

Border towns hate Hamas, their charter also stated they wanted to eradicate all Jews iirc and we're voted in - they stated the only reason they didn't remove the genocidal part against Jews from their charter was for "administrative reasons". Yeah I'm sure that's why.

Thanks, it's nice that you're a namefag. Now i will be able to blame you for getting fat during my cycle.